Hi Sara - you should be able to draw the blood yourself. It's just a little finger prick and then you let it drip on to the collection paper they sent you.

BTW - I had my first NAET session this week (eggs). I tested very sensitive to them so after the treatmentI couldn't get with 4 feet of any egg products for 25 hours. Next week is calcium.

Hi Larry,

Oh, I didn't realize. Oh, ok ... thanks for letting me know.

Wow, you did? LOL. i would love to hear what you think.

The past 4 months (I'm taking a break now--I was doing 2 treatments a day, five days a week) it wasn't easy to see whether it was working for me or not. I had so many problems when I started. then there was the detoxing which looks too much like the actual allergic symptoms themselves.

But now I can point to something that is completely and totally undeniable, that can't be attributed to placebo, or anything else, that is directly and completely a result of the NAET treatments. (They treated a lot of things. e.g., they treated my soy intolerance, for example, which they said was severe, but my soy intolerance mainly tend to show up only after months and months of eating a lot of soy, and it tends to result in my not being able to control my periods anymore. No further details necessary! so it was hard to be sure whether I no longer had a soy intolerance or not.)

Ok, this following is completely and totally due naet treatments:

I used to have very severe asthma to smoking. Nothing worked to stop the asthma from happening. Puffers were limited and I couldn't stay in a smoky environment for too long even with very powerful puffers.

Now I can sit next to smokers and I don't have asthma anymore. I do react in other ways, so I'm getting more treatments for the other ways I react to cigerrate smoking, but, I have zero asthma.

Not saying that it's a good idea to spend too much time in a smoky environment.

But what that means is, I won't have my lungs constrict so it feels like I'm sucking air through a straw anymore.

It's conclusive proof I wanted, that could not be attributed to placebo, or anything else, and finally I have this undeniable proof ... 4 months later. Sigh.

but, it works ... that's what counts!

I'd love to hear your own experiences as you go along Larry ... :-)

Sarah

I'm curious. what happened when you got to within 4 feet of them?

alexy

yes, it sounds like we might be experiencing slightly different NAET methods. When he muscle tests me with the vile, if I show that I'm sensitive to it, he also muscle tests me while holding the vile in his own hand several feet away. If the muscle test for that shows week, too, then I am sensitive to the energy field of the food as well as to ingesting it. That was the case with eggs so I had to keep my distance from eggs for the 25 hours after the treatment. That meant I couldn't even open the refrigerator door. Next time I go in he will test to see if I have "cleared" the egg sensitivity.

There is a list of things that people are most sensitive to and I'm clearing them one at a time (next is calcium, then vitamin C, then vitamin B, etc.). If the muscle test shows I'm not sensitive to something I go on the the next thing. It usually takes at least 15 treatments to get everything cleared.

Is this how yours works, too?

hi larry,

you and i "slightly different naet methods" is putting it mildly in my opinion.

i think you and i are having similiar AND very different experiences.

now, the basic or main treatment, for me, is still naet. so the muscle-testing is the same (roughly) for me as for you.

and you and i both go through the same initial 10 or 12 basics. so eggs is one basic. calcium is another. etc.

so we both have to go through the basics first before we can be treated for our own issues. (my issues--severe allergies to many things, including detergents, fabrics, dustmites, dust, pollen, shampoos, cleaning agents of all kinds, plus, more moderate allergies--such as various food allergies (my soy allergy is very strong but still takes months to really, really show up big time in terms of uncontrollable period bleeding, but i could feel its effect on me pretty much immediately when i eat it, but i just shrugged it off), etc., etc.

what's different ...

they have "instant clearing vials" (not sure how to spell it--vials? vails? those little things?). I put my hands on them and then I don't have to go through the 25 hours thing as you do, wherein I have to take extreme efforts to avoid the object in question. I can just go about my life.

However, some of the times, I still need to try to limit my exposure while I'm having a treatment for a specific thing. It depends, though. But the basic attitude is--just do what you normally do.

So that is one important difference.

Another difference: I was in a health crisis. So I was in a hurry. So I did the 10 basics in a week basically, and I just kept going. I have done well over 125 treatments at this point. I'm taking a two-week break before coming back.

So you are more like many people--you do one treatment a week. I've never done that. How do you experience this? I'm curious.

Anyway. The detoxing is brutal sometimes. I think it's because I did 10 txs a week basically, and also because some of these txs at least were big txs--meaning I had a lot of detoxing to do as a result. Soy was an example, as I used to eat a lot of soy.

So I had some bad times recently when I tried to push myself, and so I backed off.

They did recently say no to me several times because my body couldn't take another tx.

I think the zone diet i was on--i fell off today! and feeling the effect! but will climb back on tomorrow--helped me to keep going. there was a lot of surprise among the naet practitioners that i could keep going as i did. i think they don't normally see people who do that many txs in such a short span of time. it was 4 long months of detoxing.

that said. the detoxing sucked what I call the "zone energy" out of me, even when I was eating a very strict paleo-zone diet to try to control

another difference. it sounds like your naet practitioner follows dr. devi (founder of naet)'s techniques very strictly. my practitioners added a lot more to dr. devi's naet techniques. The "instant clearing vials" is an example. I had a lot of doubt sometimes as a result because it was more than the strict naet stuff.

but. i am, by now, totally and completely convinced this stuff works. because in February, I had to abandon my lovely apartment that I so loved, and ended up in the emergency room, because the smokers underneath my apartment were smoking, and my lungs would constrict so much, I felt like I was sucking air through a straw. And I was allergic to 70% or more of the items around me at that point.

Now I've moved into a house with two smokers, I'm living WITH two smokers--bad idea, I know, and they're trying very hard to reduce their smoking, and to quit--and I have absolutely no asthmatic reaction to their smoking, even when they're smoking right in front of me.

It was the NAET treatments that completely eliminated the asthma. I no long have this potentially life-threatening disease.

So I knew, for sure, at the 3.5 month mark when I found I had absolutely no asthma at all in reaction to heavy smoking, even though I was asthmatic all my life, and my asthma very clearly varied depending on how long I was exposed to smoke, and to how much smoke was being produced.

I had been observing a lot of far more subtle changes in me all along, though. For example, my soy allergy--I stopped reacting to it with various physical sensations that I can't quite describe, but that I have long associated with eating soy products. But these changes were much more subtle, so it was harder to be sure, particularly as naet treatments aren't accepted in the medical world, although one of my medical doctors, an allergist, said she did investigate naet treatments, and that she was all for my getting naet treatments, but that she couldn't recommend naet treatments as yet herself because she needs hard proof in terms of a double-whachacllat clinical study ... you know, the "golden standard" in the medical/scientific world. blind test? double-blind placebo something? LOL.

on the emotional front. they did what they call "emotion txs." and some of them definitely eased certain reactions in me, made it easier for me emotionally.

But, this medical doctor was all for my doing the naet treatments--she clearly wasn't worried about toxic side effects. (She continues to prescribe allergy shots to her patients, but, i refuse to have allergy shots.)

i will be honest here. in my personal opinion, she should be investigating naet txs more, and maybe setting up a study of her own. i'm gonna offer myself as a guinea pig in a week' or two time ... we'll see if she'll accept that. lol.

the reality, of course, is that drug companies have billions of dollars to invest in big clinical studies. naet practitioners are scattered all over the world, there are no big naet companies around, and the individual practitioners don't have billions of dollars. so it's next to impossible for naet practitioners to set up those kinds of expensive studies. and drug companies don't have the incentive to study naet txs in a nonbiased way, so ...

anyway. the asthma--the fact that my severe asthma is completely gone--has convinced me, 100%, that this "crazy" thing work. And I am a lot healthier now that I have many major allergies permanently eliminated without the side-effects of allergy shots.

And I still firmly believe in the zone diet, it has consistently worked for me over and over again, and i feel so much better when i'm zoned than when i'm not, but even if the zone diet gets my allergies under control--and it would if i had been able to stabilize on the zone fish oil, but i couldn't--it would not permanently eliminate these allergies.

so, both the zone diet and the naet treatments get my allergies under control. the zone diet gives me tremendous energy too.

but when i fall off the zone diet, my allergies come back.

with the naet treatments. my big allergies are gone PERMANENTLY, so i have fewer health issues to cope with.

so, i use both ...

a.

i see i mixed up a couple of thoughts, but i think you can follow along anyway? LOL

sometimes i get interrupted while typing on the puter, or i interrupt myself! hahaha

a.

very interesting, Sarah. You're right about my guy. He prides himself on following the original NAET guidelines very strictly. He also does other energy treatments and I've tried them all.

They are all explained on his website http://www.sanantonio-chiropractors.com/

These are the ones I've done, in order, over the last year:

NCR (neural cranial restructuring) - This gave me back the posture I had 40 years ago and helped my neck pain but didn't eliminate it.

NeuroModulation Technique (NMT) - This didn't do much for me.

Neurolink - Luckily a new protocol of only 3 sessions was offered at the time I did this. I noticed a big change in my digestion for the better.

NAET - I've only done eggs and calcium. I feel generally more relaxed and my digestion continues to improve. My neck still hurts some but I don't care. I'm looking forward to more advanced NAET treatments that address arthritis in a few months. I'm sure it will also help me with getting congested at night in the Fall and Winter.


I'm not really in bad health, at all, just determined to get rid of the neck pain. Taking a lot of fish oil didn't help and I've tried a lot herbal type remedies (MSM was the latest) with no results.

Since I feel pretty good, generally, I don't notice much detox or euphoria from the treatments. I pretty much feel the same most of the time.

I'm with you on the Zone Diet. I'm not going to change that.

Briefly looked at your Chiro's website. Philosophy, unlike most, seems to be a lot like ours (my wife and I).
Dr. You, for example .... very similar to approach of our Chiro.
So, in fairness: www.pathoflifechiro.com
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Sound familiar?
Chiropractic adjustment improves the function of the nervous system, which governs and controls the body. When the nervous system works better, the body works better - it's as simple as that. Neck and back pain are important because they affect a person's quality of life, but they are even more important because they are signals from the body indicating that something is wrong with the spine, which could be impacting the nervous system and detracting from your body's ability to function at its best. A chiropractor is the only doctor trained to detect and eliminate subluxation (click here) to ensure that your nervous system is able to perform at its best, and therefore to govern and heal your body from the inside.
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Anyway - a good Chiropractor along with a healthy ZONE lifestyle - is more than worth its weight in gold!
Just as for me with "diets" until I came across the ZONE!
Until I came across this chiropractor (whom I met kataking!) - with the right philosophy, I saw chiropractic care as worthless, useless, waste of money, etc. Not any more.

hmm, this is interesting ...

because i had spinal meninigitis as a child, and that impacts the central nervous system. (the CNS is comprised of the brain and the spine. Spinal meninigitis attacks the brain and the spine.)

So one of Larry's therapies--the cranal-something one--sounds like it might be a good fit for me. Thanks Larry for sharing.

Anyway. I want to clarify how NAET works to eliminate allergies. Fundamentally, the naet practitioners manipulate the nerves running along the two sides of the spine to manipulate the flight and fight instincts so that the body stops reacting to something as if it’s an enemy.

In other words. They work with the central nervous system too. And, the allergist I saw recently, who's a medical doctor, who investigated the NAEt txs, ,she said,, when I said the above re: how it works, "That’s a very good description." So, it's an accurate description according to her, then.

LARRY: this note for you, because you mentioned your arthritis. One of my NAET practitioners was in a car accident so bad she was in a coma for a month, and had many surgeries afterwards, and had very bad arthritis (well, she didn't say, "very bad," but, it was REALLY bad I infer, due to the car accident and the surgeries). She got a lot of NAET txs, and nearly all of her arthtritis is gone. She's very overweight, definitely is NOT on the zone diet, doesn't have much physical energy, etc, but she's still far healthier thanks to the txs. She occasionally limps on bad days, she still experience allergic reactions, but both her arthritis and her allergies are far, far less than they used to. She no longer has txs, but, she says she does go back at times to maintain her health, but goes long stretches without the txs.

Just thought you might want to know ... :-)

Interesting to hear about your digestion improving too ... Im having various problems with my digestion i think, but seeing another, non-NAET, naturopathic doctor about my reflux, my various "stomach problems," etc ... my health problems are getting less and less complicated, but it takes a long time to fully heal i think.

I agree, the zone diet is absolutely crucial. I can't imagine not being on it. I admit to falling off periodically, partly because I'm so gullible!!!! I keep buying into other people's beliefs that bad food taste better than good food. But the reality isn't so. But somehow, I just keep falling into that trap, I don't know why!! Does anyone know why I keep buying that myth when I know better????

A

Just a note, I have had ALL of my life really severe seasonal hayfever allergies - both in the Spring and in the Fall.
And about 14 years ago, developed (real) allergy - dust-mites.
Many ties when two allergy types were combined in the Spring, even prescription antihistamines, barely touched them on very severe days and nights.
The ZONE diet helped, some, as well as moving to New England from NC.
However, more than just bothersome.
After I started seeing who is now my Chiropractor, right before last Fall, she informed me to let her know how my allergies were.
Fall came, and not a problem! I was still skeptical! I told her Spring is even worse and will be the real test.
Spring came, and I am like, "What allergies?"
Then this Fall, again, no problems, and I ran into folks who all said their doctors told them that this Fall in new England was one of the worst for seasonal allergies, and I had NO problems.
All from normal Chiropractor adjustments (& in addition to the Zone).

Hi John,

What did she do exactly that helped the allergies, do you happen to know?

That is a great story by the way. :-)

A

I have two areas in my back, one major area in my Neck which is out of alignment.
The whole concept is to help nerve cells flow messages from the brain more easily, as God had intended.
Due to being born premature, a car accident, etc. Apparently not all information was flowing.
Just by slowly adjusting and nudging alignment back to normal.
For example, your spinal neck curvature should be at about 42 degrees.
Mine is at about 14 degrees - when I started.
With some early signs of arthritis in one of the segments - some loss of some essential spinal fluid.
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By the way, according to my Chiropractor, they have just found out (science/medical community),
that the spinal fluid system flows down from the brain and back up the spinal column, much like blood flow.
The fluid is blood without red blood cells.
They do not know what "PUMPS" this brain blood fluid.
TheThey do know that the Brain filters blood and creates this spinal blood fluid.
This is a recent discovery according to my chiropractor, and has some implications, they are just starting to learn about.

Fascinating, and relevant to me given my childhood illness ... I had suspected for the past few months that my many allergies were due to my spinal meninigitis at two, and the ensuring trauma (both physiological and emotional trauma), and your information supports my suspicions ...

a.

congratulations, by the way, on stumbling into something that actually helped you so much ...

it takes a long time and trial and error to find something that works ...

a

I wasn't aware I even had a problem, until the day my wife and I were kayaking with our group, and this "new" person,
turned out to be a Chiropractor. As we were chatting in general about various topics, she noticed my posture, lack of being able to turn my head very much, all of which I lived with, and knew nothing else, so thought it all normal. e ten chatted about various medical/health philosophies, and i realized we had similar core beliefs. Then I found out she was a Chiropractor, and she suggested I come in for an initial scan, discounted as she had just recently moved to the area and was just starting her business up. No looking back for me from then on ...
Just like when I "stumbled" ? across the Zone ... (posted in Zone Forums in 2004, but the forums have undergone two complete transformations, since then ... )

I've seen you mention how you met her ... :-) :-) :-)

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