very severe allergies in terms of sleeping--I feel good during the day thanks to the zone diet but at nite time my breathing keeps getting stopped every few seconds etc and I jerk awake. I am learning too that my fibromyalgia is also involved, because often I have tics that don't show on the outside, on the skin or muscle, and aren't visible, but exist inside my head. No, it's not "all in my head!"

I don't have the energy to explain. I had one hour of sleep. Luckily I had 7 hours of sleep the previous night, but most nights I have very little sleep.

Anyway. Does anyone know what Dr. Sears recommend in this case? I'm very strict with my diet. I do eat hemp protein powder, which has a little Omega-6s I think? And grass-fed chicken. Etc.

Sarah the carb-sensitive

by the way. i think it all started with my tetanus shot, I got flu-like symptoms, almost two days after I got it, was down for a couple of days. Then the mowing happened twice, and I got sick each time.

I am going to an allergy place where they do acupuncture, and one of the people who administer the treatments told me she suspects it's the fillers in the tetanus shot. I was doing quite well prior to the tetanus shot.

Sarah

Search drsears.comfor fibryalgia and you should find fish oil dose recmemddations .

I have this:
http://drsears.com/SearchIndexer/ta...fault.aspx

it says 5 grams of his FO.

that would be great if it's only 5 grams per day.

the problem with that is, e.g., this one says 7.5 grams: http://drsears.com/SearchResults/ta...f+fish+oil

So I'm confused.

Is there a medical person at ZoneLab I could talk to?

Sarah the carb-sensitive :-)

And this one says 10 grams!

http://drsears.com/SearchIndexer/ta...fault.aspx

So it's not really clear what I really need ...

Sarah

I did find this, saying 10 to 15 grams (yikes!)

" “The Omega Rx Zone,” almost miraculous pain relief from fibromyalgia can be seen within hours after taking high-dose fish oil (10-15 grams of long-chain omega-3 fatty acids)."

http://drsears.com/ZoneLiving/Artic...fault.aspx

So I need some guidelines ...

Sarah

Sarah

As with any supplement it is best to ask your Physician. We do not give medical advise. Dr. Sears gives dosage recommendations based on studies, trials and research; the results of which are found in his books.

Dr Sears writes in the link you provided: " Of course, the question is how much? As I pointed out in my book, “The Omega Rx Zone,” almost miraculous pain relief from fibromyalgia can be seen within hours after taking high-dose fish oil (10-15 grams of long-chain omega-3 fatty acids). However, you have to keep taking the same levels of high-dose fish oil continually to maintain a steady state of eicosapentaenoic acid (EPA) in the bloodstream to dampen down the pro-inflammatory effects of arachidonic acid (AA). Therefore the AA/EPA test we have devised will tell you exactly how much pharmaceutical-grade fish oil you need to control this constant condition.

Bottom line, fibromyalgia is a tough disease because it is so diverse in its symptoms. But it also appears that an appropriate long-term eicosanoid modulation program using the OmegaZone Dietary Program may be your best defense to maintain a quality of life in the presence of this disease that still confounds medical science. "


In would appear that an AA/EPA test would be a really good idea. Zone Labs offers a free test kit when you purchase 6 botlles of OmegaRX. You should be consistent in the amount of Fish oil you take regularly for 30 days prior to testing.

Hey Sarah CS (carb-sensitive),

Fish oil dosing is important, and will need to be individualized for your needs. The other important part is diet. The Zone Diet will help you to decrease those bad eicosanoids, and increase the good ones, as well as the fish oil. Zone Diet + fish oil = decrease in inflammation.

I have attended a seminar in the past in which the speaker talked about treatment of her fibromyalgia (she is a doctor). She did not mention any specific diet at all, but everything she said was basically Zone. She was able to progress from being w/c bound to normal function.

HI all,

I'm thrilled about the Zone fish oil. However, for 10 grams a day, which is what I am doing right now, it costs $235 altogether.

This is VERY expensive.

I do not have any fun spending as a result of this. My health has to come first.

I am also looking at cutting out other things to make up for this. I'm not working right now. I'm VERY lucky I have enough financial support to keep me going that I can do things like this.

I do Qigong, which is what my pain specialist recommended to me--she's a medical doctor, one of the top in her field of chronic pain disorders--and when I do it regularly, my fibromyalgia quite consistently goes down. So I'm going back to Qigong and I'm trying to figure out how to customize my FO in order to meet my needs and no more. I'm looking for help, advice, suggestions, here, in tweaking my FO.

About my diet, what it looks like: I just quit hemp protein powder, which, Sue informed me, has Omega-6s which would counteract the effects of the FO obviously.

So my diet is from only the following: pollock (fish), chicken, egg whites, and so forth for the protein. And for the carbs, veggies, like tomatoes, pasta sauce (I will look into using just tomatoes and reducing tomatoes to a smaller volume), frozen veggies (minus the carrot part), cabbage, broccili, etc.

Olive oil, mostly extra-light-tasting kind, is my main fat except for the grass-fed chicken, which, I gather, is good for me.

I eat a whole lot of spaggetti squash of veggies because it's the most stabilizing for me.

Blueberries at nightime as part of the 2 snacks, to create small volume food so I can go to bed without upseting my stomach.

NO dairy products. NO refined products. No wheat products. I improved the moment I took them all out, by the way. I stopped having hunger issues.

So the real point of this is ... I'm hoping, because of my Qigong and my being able to stay on this diet very carefully--I haven't fallen off in 2 weeks! and I'm not hungry! that I will reduce my fish oil to, say, 5 grams a day eventually???

And any guidelines in how to reduce gradually without jeapolizing my health? specifically, my problem is with my nasal congestion due to ... allergies? reflux? whatever the cause is ... the congestion blocks my breathing very suddenly and every few seconds or minutes (depending) at nighttime. It's not the regular annoying and irritating post nasal drip that other people seem to have. I'm gonna be in a sleep lab overnight so they can see what's really going on with me.

Now ... time for a snack!! :-)

Alexy/Sarah

Oh, and I eat spaggetti squash also because of its much smaller volume per block as compared to, say, cabbage.

So I eat a little cabbage on the side, or broccili, but I can't eat a lot, not really.

I think a big reason I developed the reflux was because I went overboard, did not listen when my body protested the massive volume of veggies I was stuffing into it, and I started reacting but kept going because I was so WOWed by the depth and soundness of Barry Sears' research in his books; by his theories which made so much sense; etc.

it wasn't the only reason i developed the reflux, but it definitely contributed very heavily.

So Sue's advice to listen to your body was very good advice and I wish I knew that then ...

Thanks Alexy. It's all looking good. Good luck at the sleep lab!

Spaghetti Squash is a great alternative to grain-based pasta!

Thanks, Sue.

I'm actually looking for suggestions from .. Tech Support? You? Another person? As to how I can tweak my FO to be as low as possible over time WITHOUT hurting my health. Right now I will go for 10 grams a day because it's been SO BAD for me allergywise.

But with QiGong, etc., etc., etc., which DOES reduce inflammation, the question is ... How do I figure out how to lower my FO to the lowest possible without jeaparizing my health? How do I know when I've arrived at the lowest possible dose?

I know! I will ask for the free test for next month's supply ... is the free test with every 6 bottles I order at once? Or just an one-time thing?

But there are other ways to know ...

I know it sounds obvious: "Just get the test and you'll know" and "Look at your reactions" etc via that eicosands report (which I downloaded). But it feels like I'm missing a piece somehow in trying to steer my way to the lowest FO.

Do I lower my FO by two capsules or whatever per week, for example? how much time do I spend at a slightly lower dose before I know I'm good at that dose? Etc.

Lots of questions ... LOL.

Alexy

I know it can be expensive, that will definitely be an issue. You might be best to call customer support to discuss these issues, as I believe that you get a certified zone coach assigned to your account, someone that will be your personal guide. Not that you can't get some guidance here, but a one-on-one phone conversation is really nice.

Hi Cranberrycat,

Great idea!

Uh, do I have to pay for that coach?

Alexy

Alexy, you're welcome.

And now, whoa! Take a deep breath. :D

The coaches will not be able to give you medical advice.

Fill out the ESR (Eicosanoid Status Report, aka, Silent Inflammation Profile or SIP).

Start with the one of those doses recommended by Barry Sears for fibro.

Take it at that dose for 1 month, filling out the ESR again every week to note changes.

At the end of the one month increase it if the ESR indicates you need to, and keep monitoring by filling out the ESR once a week.

When you find the right fish oil dose to address your symptoms, you need to stay at the dose to continue to benefit. One does not decrease gradually to a low dose once their symptoms have improved.

Also, practicing the strictest adherence to the Zone diet will give you the best shot.

Alexy

Sue has it aboslutely correct.

Sue has used Dr Sears OmegaRX Fish Oil consistantly for a number of years and has consulated with Dr. Sears when dealing with health issues for herself and her family.

We have a number of people on our staff that you can speak with regarding the Diet and our products. There are no "Coaches". The entire phone staff has taken and passed a Zone Certification Test and a number of them have been on staff for over 10 years and if they can not answer a question we have a director of techical support who has been at Barry's side for over 10 years.

I don't see the zone coach program advertised on the website, so maybe it doesn't exist anymore? Maybe techie can answer that question.

I just think that sometimes it is easier to talk to someone one-on-one rather than waiting for info to be posted on the forums. At least, talking to a zone rep will guarantee that you are getting accurate and up-to-date information. And a phone conversation allows for you to ask questions directly as they come to you, rather than having to wait for a response in the forums. As an example, I posted a question the other day, and I still have not gotten the answer, and I am hesitant to make any changes until I have clear knowledge of where I am and what I am going to do about it. I might consider doing a call in myself to see if they can direct me to someone who can answer the question.

Cranberrycat, what is your question? I'll be happy to help.

It was in another thread, and techie is trying to come up with some additional information for me.