Hi.

I was wondering about freezer to microwave stuff. I have a lot of that but I'm not sure it would be okay on this diet. The labels seem okay (good, actually) for the Zone but I'm not sure.

Does anyone else eat soy nuggets, soy burgers, soy sausage, soy chic patties, etc.? Use them for their main protein source? Some of these (like those little soy sausages) have 10g of protein packed in a tiny pattie with no carbs! Others, like the nuggets, have a coating so they have some carbs.

Thanks in advance!

Hali

I eat soy "meats" Hali, but not the ones with coatings, breading, etc.

With frozen meals, it all depends on the ingredients and the amounts of P, C and F. For a typical meal (3 block meal ) you'd want about 20g P, 30g C and 10g F.

Sue...you're the best. Thanks so much!

Hali,

I have tried some of the soy products that you mentioned, but I find that soy does not satisfy me like other proteins do. And, I have always been a bit leary of soy, so rather than get caught up in what is safe and what isn't, I just don't bother with it.

You're welcome, Hali. There are many benefits to eating soy. Dr. Sears covers the issue of soy isoflavones (phytoestrogens, the controversial issue re soy) in his book "The Soy Zone". His position in that book is he is not concerned that people will get too mnay isoflavones on the Soy Zone. He also explained in the book that the soy meat substitutes do not contain phytoestrogens because they are made from soy protein concentrates. Traditional soy products (tofu, soy beans, tempeh, soy nuts, soy milk, soy lour, soy grits, and textured soy protein) contain the most isoflavones, and soy protein isolate powders about half that of the traditional soy products.

That does make sense, Cranberrycat. I love soy and have been eating it for years so it does work for me but wanted to make sure it was okay for the zone.

Sue: I've always eaten the breaded ones, too, but have been staying away from those since I started the zone. I really like these (and soy milk and edamame) and I don't always like to eat meat so I am really glad to hear this. Thanks!

Cheers,
Hali

Thanks for understanding. I can explain my position on soy just a little bit more...

First of all, I try to eat a "clean" diet, so I rarely eat any manufactured/processed food. If you think about it, those soy burgers and crumbles, and all of the other imitation meat products are manufactured/processed--far from the original product. I think that this explains to me why soy just doesn't seem to satisfy me as does other proteins, or at least that is my theory

Second, there is the issue of the isoflavones, which really just makes me wonder why bother with it at all... so since I can get adequate protein from other sources, I avoid soy and therefore avoid all of the issues related to it.

Cranberrycat,

It really is best to stick with what works for you. And that's that. Every body is different and reacts to things differently.

Since I went on the Zone diet, I've been eating way less processed food. Actually, that's really all I ate. Awful. So, despite the weight issue, it feels so good to be eating non-processed food (although I do still eat some), and lots of fresh fruits, veggies, and protein.

Best,
Hali

I totally agree about doing what works for you, and how we are all different :)

Hello! I am new at the ZONE diet and it is very difficult for me to measure according the labels. Especially food that contains P and C in big amounts.
I bought a soy bio product that should equals minced meat and it has the following nutrition facts: in 100 gr.: P=49 gr., C=29 gr. and F=6 gr. Could you please help me with the
calculation? I'll be also very thankful if you could give me a link where I can read about how to calculate Blocks according to the labels. Usually if I define a food as a carbohydrate,
I divide the C-nutrition facts in 9, but what about foods that have high level of C and F? or P and F? In the Food Block Guide are given usually low fat products,
if the fat is not so low like regular cheese, or mozzarella, does it mean that 1 block should be less than 1 oz, which is the amount for a low fat cheese?
So I will be really, really very thankful if you could give me some info about how to read labels and measure food!
Thanks in Advance!
Milla

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Posted By Milla on 14 May 2012 08:39 AM
Hello! I am new at the ZONE diet and it is very difficult for me to measure according the labels. Especially food that contains P and C in big amounts.
I bought a soy bio product that should equals minced meat and it has the following nutrition facts: in 100 gr.: P=49 gr., C=29 gr. and F=6 gr. Could you please help me with the
calculation?
So I will be really, really very thankful if you could give me some info about how to read labels and measure food!
Thanks in Advance!
Milla
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With mixed products start with the highest value.
For example, in your Soy product 100 gr = 7 blocks protein (49/7).
So dividing it into 7 portions:
So 1/7th of the product = 1 block of protein.
Then 1/7th of the product is just under 1 gram fat, nearly negligible fat.
And 1/7th of the product is 4 grams of carbohydrates or about 1/2 block of carbs.
Hope this helps.

thank you very much for the information
what I am not sure about is that if a certain kind of food has for example 60 gr. C. in 100 gr of the product, when i divide 60 to 9 and I have 6.7 as a result,
does it mean that 6.7 is the gram I should have for one block, or 6.7 are the NUMBER of the blocks that 100 gram of this type of food has?
Thanks again! Milla[

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Posted By Milla on 17 May 2012 09:11 AM
thank you very much for the information
what I am not sure about is that if a certain kind of food has for example 60 gr. C. in 100 gr of the product, when i divide 60 to 9 and I have 6.7 as a result, does it mean that 6.7 is the gram I should have for one block, or 6.7 are the NUMBER of the blocks that 100 gram of this type of food has?
Thanks again! Milla[
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60 grams of netCarbs = Total Carbs minus Fiber.
9 grams of Carbs per 1 block of carbs.
So, 60 g divided by 9 g per block = 6.7 blocks of carbs, or close enough to count as 7 blocks of carbs.
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Remember your math from school, when you divide with units, you reverse the divisor's units.
So:
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g g g b
-- / -- = -- x -- = b
1 b 1 g

where g = grams and b = blocks
The g's cancel each other out, leaving blocks over one or blocks as the remaining unit.

Because of the forum removing the extra spaces, the formula did not display properly ... <grin>

g . g . . g . b
-- / -- = -- x -- = b
1 . b . . 1 . g
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Added periods to get the additional spacing required to show the units math ...

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