zone nougat bars
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cranberrycat
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24 Sep 2011 08:58 AM
    I was chatting with Sue yesterday, and she asked me if I had tried the zone nougat bars. So, I decided to check them out, especially in light of the 10% off sale going in now.

    However, some key issues, wondering if anyone has any comments about them...

    First, they advertise that they will keep me in the zone for 5 hours! Well, that would be great, but how does a 2-block bar keep anyone in the zone for 5 hours?

    Then, I looked at the ingredients. I specifically looked at the peanut butter nougat bar, so maybe the ingredients differ from other bars, but I am very surprised to see puffed rice listed as an ingredient, not to mention the fact that it was listed quite high on the list (above the oats!). And, there are 3 kinds of sweeteners, fructose, brown sugar, and sucralose. Really? How about eliminating one of those and making room for some more favorable ingredients?

    So, if I try these and I don't stay in the Zone for 5 hours, can I get a refund? LOL!

    I am curious, though, but I think I would get a better deal if I wait for the "no shipping" offer. Knocking 10% off is only a $2 savings, and I am sure shipping will eat that right up.
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    24 Sep 2011 09:33 AM
    Hi CC

    The nougat bars are nice but a bit too sweet. I was surprised too by all the sweeteners especially the fructose. I wont buy them again. They are handy and do you keep you in the Zone for a snack. I haven't ever had one as a main meal.

    Talking about sweetness. The Zone shakes. I dont know why they are making these and other Zone products so sugary tasting.
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    24 Sep 2011 11:30 AM
    Margaret, that was one of my biggest complaints when I tried the cookies. Even my kids thought they were too sweet! LOL

    Good to hear your thoughts. I currently receive the oatmeal raisin bars, and they really don't do a good job of keeping me in the Zone, and a huge complaint of mine is that they are also too sweet. I only continue this shipment because I got in on a really good price last year, and the price is recurrent (which is not true of most of the other promotions).
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    25 Sep 2011 02:19 PM
    You have got to be kidding me!
    Sucralose! AND Brown Sugar!!!
    NO way, hose .....
    What s Dr. Sears thinking !!!
    How can he even justify these and the other ingredients . . .
    And then charge as much as he does for junk ingredients.
    just have a sugar filled twinkie, some protein powder,
    and call it a Sears like snack.

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    25 Sep 2011 07:34 PM
    Well, I am sure that they used quality ingredients, waved the magic wand over them to make them favorable...

    :D

    See, I think this is why bars just never work for me. Doesn't matter whose lab they come from... I may as well make my breakfast bars which come right out of my own oven, at least they don't have all of the processed ingredients. Maybe not the best of choices in the Zone, but I feel better putting whole foods into my body.
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    25 Sep 2011 07:34 PM
    (guess the smiley didn't work)
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    25 Sep 2011 07:58 PM
    John

    I am just looking at one of the Zone nougat wrappers now - it also has sugar and fructose!!! So that is 4 different forms of sugar. I really cant work out why these things have to be sooo sweet. As I said before - the shakes are way too sweet. I am going to use them up and wont buy again. I halve the dry mix and add one scoop of protein powder to taken away the sweetness of it.
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    25 Sep 2011 08:15 PM
    [quote]
    Posted By cranberrycat on 24 Sep 2011 09:58 AM

    First, they advertise that they will keep me in the zone for 5 hours! Well, that would be great, but how does a 2-block bar keep anyone in the zone for 5 hours?

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    It's the patented baking technology that allows for this. They work great for me even though I have a substantial sensitivity to the carbohydrate I eat. I've gone 6 hours after a Zone nougat bar without eating and still wasn't hungry. :cool:
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    26 Sep 2011 02:54 PM
    I think that the "5 hours" must be an individual-results kind of thing. I recall reading that they also advertize the other 1-2-3 foods as having a similar effect, but it doesn't happen for me.

    So, are the nougat bars "molecularly baked", too? I didn't think that the bars were the same as the 1-2-3 products. But, I could be mistaken, since it isn't my thing anyway.

    In either case, with that list of ingredients, I will hold off on ordering. I am not convinced that these bars would work any better than the other bars have, but if I should happen to receive a free sample pack to try, then maybe I would go ahead and give it a shot.
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    26 Sep 2011 04:07 PM
    Yes, nougat bars are baked with the same technology as Zone breads, pizza crusts, etc. Here's the description from the "Shop" page of this site:

    "Dr. Sears’ Zone Nougat Bars
    Delicious Zone Nougat Bars are Baked Fresh each and every day in our state of the art bakery with a handmade artisan approach. Each bar offers a perfectly balanced Zone snack with 14 grams of Zone Protein and they are so unique that they can only be made through our patented baking technology. The key lies in removing much of the carbohydrate and replacing it with protein while retaining great taste."

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    26 Sep 2011 06:08 PM
    Hi Sue

    Any explanation as to why there are 4 types of sugars and why the bars are soo sweet?
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    26 Sep 2011 06:43 PM

    You're asking me? That's a qn for Barry Sears. IMO they're not "soo sweet", and I like them. :)
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    26 Sep 2011 07:18 PM
    As you work for the Zone I thought you may have known. I will ask Barry. Will be interesting to see if I get a reply.
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    26 Sep 2011 07:29 PM
    Oh, sry! :blush: :)

    I have no idea. My best answer would be it's for carbohydrate and flavor.
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    26 Sep 2011 07:57 PM
    Everyone's taste is different. The zone cookies are too sweet for me, but others like them that way. I imagine that the nougat bars are probably similar. But, one nice thing about the bars is that they do provide the sweetness that some may be craving.

    I haven't looked at the other bars recently, but I am pretty sure that there are multiple sweeteners in the other bars, as well. So, this is not something new that is just recently going on with the bars (although the baking is different).

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    27 Sep 2011 09:05 AM
    While the bars may be sweet they have about the same amount of sugar as in one apple. Sugars have varying taste & consistency profiles, and glycemic indexes, the combination of the sugars results in a bar that has a low glycemic index.

    Everyone has different tastes.
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    27 Sep 2011 09:30 PM
    The regular ZONE classic bars were never too sweet in my opinion; however, the very early ones were a bit dry, but not now.
    While the new 1-2-3 foods were very, very sweet tasting, too sweet for me. I would think then that the new nougat bars, which are also molecularly baked, would also be too, too sweet for me as well. I think, I'll pass on the new Zone bars.

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    27 Sep 2011 09:53 PM
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    Why 4 kinds of sugar? Why not sweetened with something like Agave Nectar? Sugar is BAD.
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    27 Sep 2011 09:56 PM
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    Posted By Tech Support on 27 Sep 2011 10:05 AM
    While the bars may be sweet they have about the same amount of sugar as in one apple. Sugars have varying taste & consistency profiles, and glycemic indexes, the combination of the sugars results in a bar that has a low glycemic index.

    Everyone has different tastes.
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    So, if I am understanding techie right, it is the combination of the 3 different sugars that turns an unfavorable carb into a favorable one? LOL doesn't make any sense!
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    28 Sep 2011 08:41 AM
    No one said anything about turning an unfavorable carb into a favorable one. What was said was there is about the same amount of sugar in the bar that is in an apple. The zone is all about maintaining insunlin control and these nougat bars do that.
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    28 Sep 2011 05:17 PM
    If the bar has 3 unfavorable sweeteners in it (fructose, brown sugar, sucralose, not to mention the puffed rice which is not a sweetener but is another unfavorable carb), then how does the combination of the 3 sugars result in a low glycemic bar? It is an inference of mine, but if 3 unfavorable (high GL) sugars are combined to result in a low GL product, then isn't that now a favorable product?

    Techie, as I posted in another thread, this is not meant to be argumentative. Just trying to clarify some of the logic (or lack, thereof).
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    28 Sep 2011 10:58 PM
    and, no one answered Margaret's question adequately either. Why not just have one sugar? Fructose is probably the more favorable choice, so why not stick with that?

    I think that the list of ingredients sends the wrong message to people. The message infers that it is OK to eat foods with those unfavorable ingredients.

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    29 Sep 2011 06:44 AM
    It is ok to eat those foods in amounts and combinations that provide stable blood sugar and insulin control within the range of the Zone, and the nougat bars do just that. In addition the other plus with nougat bars is the absence of omega 6 fat, which makes them an excellent addition to an anti-inflammatory diet. They're a win/win choice.
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    29 Sep 2011 06:48 AM
    Re sugar qn, Tech answered it earlier in this thread: taste, consistency and glycemic indexes.
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    29 Sep 2011 07:29 AM
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    Fructose is the sugar that is bad.


    Sue/Tech Support

    The bars need to be sweet but why with 4 kinds of sugars? Why not something like Agave Nectar or Stevia which has 0 calories?

    Wonder if Dr Sears reads the forum posts? ......






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