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joie
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13 Aug 2011 11:49 AM
    I just ordered my quick start weight loss package and 2 books. I've been skimming through the website and reading about the system.

    I have been trying to lose 13 pounds for 3 years. I'll lose 5, but then they are back. I wear a bodybugg so I track my calorie burns and I am steadfast at keeping food journals and I am a bit anal at calculating calories (I measure or weigh just about everything).

    Here I am after a couple of months of walking for an hour nearly every day for exercise and getting calorie deficits per week and I have not budged in weight! I am so frustrated because I used to not have to worry about my weight at all.

    I am 39, 5'-3.5" and currently 130 pounds, I want to get back to my 117.

    I did the calculator to figure out my required "BLOCKS", 11 in each. I dont know what this means or how to calculate them. Also.....how does the Zone Quick Start Weightloss 2 week program take into consideration individual needs? Its the same delivery for everyone. How do I know I'll be eating the right calories to lose weight??

    Thank you so much to anyone that replies with help!!!
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    13 Aug 2011 01:01 PM
    OK - found the "block chart" list. So - hitting 11 in each is the target per day spread among 3 meals and 2 snacks. Now I need to figure out how to combine them! ;)

    Im a busy gal so the foods that will come with my delivery I hope will help with prep.....but I am a bit concerned about all the PROCESSED elements of eating them. Hmmm..... I mean running around during the day between clients I can see grabbing a snack bar much easier than trying to eat a cup of cottage cheese and fruit while driving.

    Again - any feedback on the weightloss questions regarding The Zone are much appreciated!
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    13 Aug 2011 08:16 PM
    Hi Joie

    With 11 blocks you could do - 3 blocks breakfast - 3 blocks lunch - 1 block snack mid afternoon - 3 blocks dinner - 1 block snack before bed time.

    I suggest that you take time to read the books and also do some research on this website. There are heaps of recipes in the books, recipes for the Zone foods and the Classic Zone on the site. If you are worried about the processed part then alternate between Classic and new Zone foods. There is a ton of information on the Forum as well as the Zone website. You just need to set some time aside to read so that you dont get frustrated about how to follow the Zone.

    To me it looks like you are doing too much walking. I read that when you walk over a certain amount of time it is wasted. It was either 30 mins or 45 mins. Can you so some strength training as well? This is good for the bones and is a proven method of toning and losing weight. Again, try not to overdo it.

    I would stop counting calories. I am anal like you but doing the block system or the "eyeball" is so much better than counting calories. In order to lose weight it is 80% what you eat and 20% exercise.

    Dont forget to take your fish oil. This is very important.

    Good luck with the Zone. Please keep in touch and let us know how you are going and ask as many questions as you like.

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    joie
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    14 Aug 2011 01:08 AM
    Thank you Margaret!

    So from what I understand and with your suggestions, with the 11 blocks per category, I'll need to do:
    3 blocks of EACH protein, carb & fat for Breakfast, lunch & dinner
    1 block of EACH for the snacks

    That sounds like so much food! I assume the foods that will come with my delivery for the 'fast track' 2 week weight loss program contain
    a combination of the blocks (carb & protein), or do the "11 blocks" only apply to the general Zone Diet?

    Thanks again!
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    14 Aug 2011 07:28 AM
    That's correct. For each meal you would have 3 blocks protein - 3 blocks carbs and 3 blocks fat. For the snacks you would have 1 block protein - 1 block carb and 1 block fat.

    Have a look at the food block guide in your books or Dr Sears website. You can get to it by clicking on the above tag. You will see that some blocks have a huge amount like lettuce - 2 heads! (You dont have to eat all of that). Or you could have hummus which is 1/4 cup. You can mix and match.

    Serving sizes should be on the packaging - I havent purchased Zone foods in a while. If you need guidance send an email or ring the Zone 1800 number.

    11 blocks is the minimum. If you are doing lots of exercise you would need more blocks but you would have to punch your stats into the Body Fat Calculator to see what you need.
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    14 Aug 2011 06:06 PM
    So if I need a snack between breakfast and lunch, i shouldnt just grab an apple since it's only a C? (This is what i usually do)

    I would need 1/2 and apple + piece of string cheese + 2 cashews for it to be a ZONE snack? (1 block of each). ?

    I assume hummus would count as carb, protein AND fat? So could I do 1/4 C of hummus & snap peas as a balanced ZONE snack?

    I am hypoglycemic, so I typically eat 5 times a day......

    Also, If I want something sweet after dinner - can I just have some berries if the dinner is already a ZONE balance? In other words,
    if the blocks are balanced, can you add more of another block (fruits or veggies) if you want to?

    Thanks so much!!



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    14 Aug 2011 06:58 PM
    Hopefully you wont need that snack between breakfast and lunch but if you need to eat, make it a Zoned snack of protein, carb, fat. Apples are carbs so you shouldnt have them on their own. Your example is correct - 1/2 apple (carb), cheese (protein), cashews (fat). Check the label for the cheese. If it has enough fats then drop the cashews.

    Check the food list. Hummus is only classed as a carb. So hummus with snap peas would not work. You need to add protein and a fat to make it a complete meal/snack.

    As I posted to you earlier the break-up of blocks would equal eating 5 times a day (3-3-1-3-1) so this will suit you.

    If you are eating in the Zone you may not feel like something sweet after dinner. Your suggestion is good about the berries. Just make sure that you have included them in your block count. Fill up on non-starchy veggies. Have a really big salad and add some toasted pine nuts or toasted almonds. Fat is the thing that fills you up. Dont add the berries on top of an already Zoned meal otherwise you will be throwing out the balance.

    Why not try eating the classic Zone until your packaged food arrives?

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    14 Aug 2011 09:06 PM
    Joie, I was briefly reading through the posts, and want to welcome you to the Zone!

    All of your meals and snacks should be balanced with protein, carbs and fat. Using the list, you would choose one serving, or "block" of each macronutrient. So, using the example of the apple, you could add string cheese to make it a full Zone snack. Note, I am not suggesting to add the fat, since string cheese typically has enough fat.

    Hummus only counts as a carb (and maybe a fat, depending on fat count). We don't count it as a protein, because we just don't count the "veggie" proteins in the Zone. Not all of those proteins are digestible, anyway.

    If you use the food lists, you should be fine.

    If you want some berries after dinner, then you should consume a protein and a fat with them. You could include them with your dinner, eating a block of berries and 2 blocks of veggies to go with your protein and fat, I believe that you have about 1/2-1 hour timeframe to consume your meals. Beyond that, you will need to consume protein and fat with your carbs or else you will be out of the Zone (OOZ). The point is to keep the blocks balanced.

    Eating 5-6 times a day is actually advisable in the Zone, it keeps things moderated. Especially for you with hypoglycemia, you probably realize the importance of that.

    As Margaret suggested, a Zone book is a great idea. I think that is much more helpful than the website. Unfortunately, the website has gone commercial, and there is really very little info regarding doing the Zone the "classic" way.

    As for the products, I don't use the Zone foods at all. It might be nice to have some things on hand for quick emergencies, but I don't rely on that. I, too, am concerned about all of the processing that goes into these foods, as my mode of thinking these days is to get back to eating whole foods rather than processed foods with ingredients that we don't even recognize!
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    Robert
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    24 Aug 2011 03:27 PM
    I am also new to the zone. I have lost 82 lbs using a 50-25-25 plan.
    That plan is 50% of my calories are protein, 25% are carbs, and 25% are
    fats. For the past 2 months I have come to a stand still, no weight loss.
    So I thought that I would try the zone. After calculating my protein
    requirements for the day at 126 grams, this in turn is 18 blocks of carbs
    and 18 blocks of fat. Am I correct with the math being 18 blocks of carbs
    times 9 = 162 grams for carbs, and 18 blocks of fat times 1.5 =27 grams for
    fats.

    Is this the correct calculation for me to lose weight? or just put me in a
    maintanence mode.

    I workout 6 days a week doing strength traning, cardio,and abs.
    Carol
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    24 Aug 2011 08:46 PM
    I'm new, too. I have the Anti-Inflammation Zone book, and buy in to it completely. It never occurred to me
    to exclusively use non-Zone Diet foods.What a concept! Making healthful weight loss available to everyone
    without shipping costs, preservatives, etc.

    What I wish is to know how long I would expect it would take tolose about 35 lbs. I can see huge
    discrepancies based on exercise, body type, etc., but wonder if there's like some chart that would give me
    guidance?
    John
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    24 Aug 2011 08:55 PM
    1.) Use the Zone Calculator on this website to calculate your block requirement.
    It takes into account some measurements and your activity level.
    2.) Fat is a TOTAL of 3 rams per block. The reason it is listed as 1.5 rams is that it s 1.5 grams of ADDITIONAL fat per block, based on the fact that lo-fat Protein inherently has about 1.5 grams of Fat per 7 grams of protein.
    3.) Once you settle down to the number of blocks for a while, it is only a STARTING point.
    You will need to tweak it based on your own specifics. Everyone is different. It also depends on your goal of maintenance or weight loss.
    Some add additional fat. some subtract some carbs.
    4.) Some are more sensitive to carbs more than others. You might need to eat less fruits and eat more vegetables and limit unfavorable carbs more than others.
    Find the number of blocks using the calculator and then let us know also what your goals are.
    maintenance, loose weight?

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    Robert
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    25 Aug 2011 07:01 AM

    John

    Thanks for the input. I did use the zone calculation and it is telling me
    that I require 126 grams of proiein a day. It also told me that represents
    18 blocks of protein, 18 for carbs and 18 for fat. If I transpose that into
    grams, than that would be, 126 grams of protein, 9 times 18 equal 162 grams
    of carbs, and as you stated, 3 times 18 equal 54 grams of fat. Are all my
    calculation correct. I have created my own software to track what I eat, it
    is all in grams not blocks, so for now it is easy for me to use grams. I am
    sure as time moves on I will convert to blocks.

    I am still trying to lose weight. Based on all the data that I have taken
    over the past year and 8 months, I gain weight when my carb intake goes up.

    Thanks
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    25 Aug 2011 07:15 AM
    Robert, note that's 9 grams of insulin stimulating carbohydrate in one Zone block, which is the total grams of carbohydrate minus the total grams of fiber. Fiber does not stimulate insulin production but it's included in the total carbohydrate for nutrition labeling.
    Sue Knorr

    Lost 100 lbs 18 yrs ago, off BP meds, thanks to the Zone diet and Zone fish oil.

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    25 Aug 2011 07:58 AM
    Hi Robert

    Can you post what a typical days eating would be? That way we might see something that might need tweaking. Sounds like you are building muscle if you are working out 6 days a week.

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    25 Aug 2011 08:43 AM

    Sue

    Thanks for the input. I think what you just told me was if my carb. intake
    was just 32 grams and my fiber was 11 grams than I realy only took in 21 grams of carbs. Is that correct?

    Bob

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    25 Aug 2011 09:08 AM

    Margaret

    I gust started working on the zone diet format. What I was doing was a
    50-25-25 plan. That is 50% of my calorie intake was protein, 25% carbs and 25% fat. It was not close to what the zone diet is, or what I think it is.
    I will post what iI am eating after I can get a week of data.

    I know that I am building muscle, the following is my workout schedule:

    Monday 40 min. of Cardio on the stationary bike resistance workout
    40 min of abdominal work

    Tuesday 30 min. of cardio, and 5 Back 4 tricept weight lifting exercise

    Wednesday 40 min. of Cardio on the stationary bike resistance workout
    40 min of abdominal work

    Thursday 40 min. of Cardio on the stationary bike resistance workout
    40 min of abdominal work
    60 min of 8 chest weight lifting exercise

    Friday 40 min. of Cardio on the stationary bike resistance workout
    40 min. of abdominal work
    60 min. of bicept weight lifting exercice

    Saturday off

    Sunday 2.5 hrs. of 5 sholder and 7 leg/hamstring weight lifting exercise

    Bob






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    25 Aug 2011 09:11 AM
    Yes, that is correct.
    Robert
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    25 Aug 2011 12:19 PM
    I have another question

    I have calculated that my protein requirement is 126 grams a day,
    that is 18 bolcks. Can I break this down to 4 blocks for breakfast,
    3 for a snack, 4 for lunch, 3 for a snack, and 4 for dinner.

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    25 Aug 2011 01:05 PM
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    Posted By Robert on 25 Aug 2011 09:43 AM

    Sue

    Thanks for the input. I think what you just told me was if my carb. intake
    was just 32 grams and my fiber was 11 grams than I realy only took in 21 grams of carbs. Is that correct?

    Bob


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    Yes, Bob, 21 grams of insulin stimulating carbohydrate.
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    25 Aug 2011 01:23 PM
    Bob, yes, you could break it down as you suggested. You can basically break it out to many combinations of balanced blocks of P, C and F throughout the day, but keep it to no more than about 5 blocks at any one time. Some people prefer 5 or 6 small meals throughout the day. For example, I have a daily 13 block requirement and usually eat either 6 2-block meals and a 1 block snack, or a 3 block breakfast and 5 2-block mneals. It's best to support your exercise sessions with one block before and one or more after (or a meal for or after if mealtimes happen to coincide with you exercise session). Also, have a snack during extended periods of exercise, to dampen the effects of elevated cortisol. Cortisol elevates to a point where it'll work against you after about 45 minutes of strenuous exercise. With your block requirement, you could easily split your snacks to get the best from your workouts hormonally. A Zone shake or bar is an excellent recovery snack after exercise.
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    25 Aug 2011 08:03 PM
    Hi Robert

    Are you training for the Olympics? That is a lot of exercise. As Sue said, after 45 mins your cortisol levels will work against you. I have to push myself just to do a 30 minute walk! I would love to be dedicated like you and get some exercise every day.

    There is a guy here in Australia who has a company promoting a system like the Zone. He has commercials on TV with a lot of examples of people who have lost the weight using his system. One example was a man who did 2 hours of strenuous exercise every day and didnt lose any weight and was very frustrated. He corrected his diet (proteins/carbs/fats like the Zone) and the weight just fell off and now plays A grade football.

    That will be great if you can send your eating plan in a weeks time. There might be something that needs a little tweaking to get you started with the weight loss.
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    26 Aug 2011 11:10 AM

    Sue

    Thanks, I hope that I don't have to many questions. If I do please
    stop me.

    I connot find where the zone diet has any ref. to sugar. I was told that
    sugar was a bad item. Is the sugar in fruits ok?

    I am having a hard time eating all the blocks that I am required. Should
    I cut down on the amount of blocks?

    Thanks
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    26 Aug 2011 11:37 AM
    Sue

    The Zone diet has no ref to sugar. I was told that sugar is
    a bad item. Is the sugar in fruits ok ?

    I am having a hard time eating all the blocks that I am required.
    Should I cut back on the number of blocks ?

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    26 Aug 2011 01:01 PM
    Bob,

    Questions are good. Your questions are also helping other readers here who have similar concerns.

    The type and amount of sugar in fruit is fine as long as you stick with favorable fruits and don't overdo it. Berries are the best fruits for the Zone because they have lower glycemic loads than most fruit and they're loaded with polyphenols.

    You shouldn't eat less protein than you require, and you need the mimimum amount of fat to balance it (at least 3g fat for every 7g protein). You could cut back on a block of carbohydrate in each meal, as long as it doesn result in hunger 4 hours after meals. A way to cut down on meal volume is to drink a glass of milk for one of the blocks. 2% milk is a fully balanced block of P, C and F; if you drink 1% or fat free add monounsaturated fat accordingly for Zone balance. You can also cut down on meal volume by including some medium and higher density carbohydrate along with the lower density veggies. Adding tomato sauce, salsa and favorable legumes can all reduce meal size and still keep you in the Zone.
    Sue Knorr

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    Robert
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    26 Aug 2011 03:36 PM

    I will send out what I have been eating after a week, I just don't
    know how much help it will be. Today I was doing great, than I went
    to work out and forgot to have lunch, and than by the time I got home
    I was to late for the afternoon snack. The problem is I am still not
    hungry.

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