SHERYL
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| 28 Jul 2010 07:02 AM |
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Hi, reviewing lists closely, and has a question about what category would these fall into - PFC and if best, fair, poor. Plus the amount for the block:
Sesame Oil (FAT) I saw on both the Best and Fair list, for 1/3 tsp and for 1/2 tsp. Do not understand the difference.
Sunflower Seeds
Soynuts (fat or protein)
Vegetable oil
Tartar sauce
Tomato sauce (Carbs)
Tomatoes, cooked (carbs)
Apple sauce (Carbs)
Honeydew - how much of melon if not cubed?
Lemon juice
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Tech Support
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| 28 Jul 2010 09:04 AM |
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Keep in mind I alway close the best choice, the only thing I wouldn't be concerned about on this list is the tomato so you really have to read the labels
Sunflower Seeds - poor, F, just over 1 teaspon
Soynuts (fat or protein) fair, P about 20gREAD LABEL
Vegetable oil - poor, F, 1/3 teaspoon
Tartar sauce to many variables -poor, F&C, READ LABEL
Tomato sauce (Carbs) fair, C, 154g or 2/3C
Tomatoes, red, ripe, cooked (carbs) fair, 1C
Apple sauce (Carbs) good, C, 1/3C
Honeydew - how much of melon if not cubed? depends on size of melon 2/3C cubed average melon I would say 1/8 this is Hi density, eat this carb. in moderation
Lemon juice - don't count
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Steven
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| 28 Jul 2010 11:55 AM |
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I'd stay away from everything on that list. I live for Blueberries, Raspberries & Greek Yogurt lol. Also, if you're considering eating any vegetable oil at all, I'd recommend you consider reading Toxic Fat. After reading Toxic Fat and understanding what bad Omega 6 can do in the amounts I was taking, it all makes sense as to why I was obese at 32 yrs old. I'd though the stuff was somehow natural/healthy my whole life b/c people taught me that butter was evil... people were wrong lol. I enjoy a dab of butter now and then but all veggie oil other than Olive and Coconut oil is now banned from my plate  |
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Maria
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| 16 Nov 2010 07:24 AM |
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I like eating fruits that are a little less common, but don't know how to calculate the blocks or decide if they should be considered a "poor choice". Any ideas on pomegranate or persimmon? |
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John
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| 16 Nov 2010 07:38 AM |
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You can use either one of these two websites, to help: . http://www.formulazone.com/Help.asp...D=MDSearch. http://www.nal.usda.gov/fnic/foodcomp/search/ .
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Sue
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| 16 Nov 2010 07:49 AM |
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I'd consider persimmon to be unfavorable (poor). Pomegranate is best used in moderation. I buy frozen pomegranate seeds at Trader Joe's and sometimes add a small spoonful on a salad, or on berries, etc. ____________________________________________
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Sue Knorr
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cranberrycat
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| 16 Nov 2010 11:32 AM |
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Maria, you could also use www.nutritiondata.com, this website will calculate the glycemic load of a given food, provided that it can be found in their data base. |
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Cranberrycat
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claire
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| 17 Nov 2010 08:33 AM |
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nutritiondata.com is such a great site! Just remember not to put too much stock in the little square under the nutritional target map where it rates the food by stars on how much it facilitates "weight loss" or "weight gain". It looks like they calculate that according to calories so high carb low calorie foods are incorrectly listed as facilitating more weight loss than weight gain. |
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Sue
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| 17 Nov 2010 09:08 AM |
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Thanks for that tip Claire! |
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Sue Knorr
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cranberrycat
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| 17 Nov 2010 03:01 PM |
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I really like that site, too! I really like using the GL information, and most all of their tools are great for analysis. They also have an "inflammatory" rating, which seems to be very useful in determining the value of a food in one's diet.
If I am looking for a list of foods that are high in a specific nutrient, one can build a report that will list those foods. For instance, it is really neat to see what foods are good sources of vitamin D. |
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Cranberrycat
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claire
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| 18 Nov 2010 07:28 AM |
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I totally agree. It has So many great resources all in one place and I really love that they have the GL information too. |
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Maria
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| 26 Nov 2010 01:50 PM |
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Thanks everyone..I've been letting my husband finish the persimmons. I'll check out the frozen pom at TJ as well as the websites. I hope everyone had a great Thanksgiving...this was my first one going gluten free and trying to stay in the zone. I can't say I achieved my zone, but I did much better at managing intake than in previous years. |
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Margaret
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| 27 Nov 2010 07:53 AM |
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Hi John,
I checked out your websites formualzone.com. Have you ever tried this service? I was just wondering if is sponsored by Zone Labs? It gives e-mail and phone support do you think it is worth the cost? thanks. |
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cranberrycat
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| 27 Nov 2010 08:05 AM |
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Margaret, I am familiar with formulazone. They do use the Zone as a basis, but they are not endorsed by Barry Sears or Zone Labs. They have some very nice tools (wish that stuff were available over here). |
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Cranberrycat
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Sue
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| 27 Nov 2010 09:45 AM |
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Hi Margaret,
You can get email and/or phone support from Zone Labs professionals for free at the toll free number above (1-800-404-8171), or at the wellness support email address found in the Contact Us link at the bottom of this page.
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sue
Consultant of Zone Labs
Certified Zone Affiliate
Lost 100 lbs 15 yrs ago, off BP meds, thanks to the Zone diet and Zone fish oil. ZoneFast 1-2-3 is the best!
View my Zone Fast 1-2-3 meal photos here:
http://s531.photobucket.com/albums/...3%20Meals/
View my classic Zone meal photos here:
http://s531.photobucket.com/albums/...4/?start=0
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Sue Knorr
Lost 100 lbs 18 yrs ago, off BP meds, thanks to the Zone diet and Zone fish oil.
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cranberrycat
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| 27 Nov 2010 11:09 AM |
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Margaret, I took some time to look at formulazone a bit closer. REALLY NEAT tools! Sometimes those who have a tough time losing weight just need more structure, and perhaps this would be a good place to start. |
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Cranberrycat
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Margaret
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| 27 Nov 2010 05:54 PM |
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I had a look at Formulazone and out of curiosity entered my statistics to see how many blocks I should be having. The answer was between 13 and 15 blocks depending on the level of activity. The Zone website still does not allow you to put in your stats if you are over a certain weight. I had also looked at Dr Sears website which says I should be having 11 blocks. Confusing. The Foumulazone looks like a very good informative website. I have heard that the Zone website is going to be updated soon. Hopefully we will be able to enter any weight range to calculate the blocks.
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cranberrycat
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| 27 Nov 2010 10:37 PM |
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Margaret--I didn't know that was YOU! Yes, I do think it is quite informative. It reminds me of the old zone subscription website, there were all kinds of tools on that one, too. IMO more than what is here. I would think you could succeed on 13 blocks, as long as you keep the glycemic impact low. |
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Cranberrycat
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Margaret
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| 28 Nov 2010 04:14 AM |
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Hi CC
There are 2 Margarets on the forum - that is why I added (from Australia) so not to confuse us. Thanks for the reply. I might just try the 13 blocks and see what happens. |
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Sue
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| 28 Nov 2010 08:18 AM |
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Hi Margaret from Australia,
When a person's stats are above the limits of the Zone calculator, Dr. Sears advises to assume 50% LBM and 50% body fat, then calculate blocks by hand, based on that LBM. The formula used to determine daily protein requirement in grams is LBM times the activity level factor. The activity level factors, which represent grams of protein per pound of LBM, are Sedentary 0.5, Light 0.6, Moderate 0.7, Active 0.8, Very Active 0.9, Elite 1. To then determine the daily block requirement, divide the protein requirement by 7 (there are 7 grams of protein in each Zone block).
Here's an example for a person who weighs 320 pounds and take walks for their activity (light activity).
LBM calculation: 320/2 = 160 pounds LBM and 160 pounds body fat
Daily protein requirement calculation: 160 x .06 = 96 grams of protein daily
96/7 = 13.71, which you would round up to 14 blocks.
This person would require 14 blocks daily.
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sue
Consultant of Zone Labs
Certified Zone Affiliate
Lost 100 lbs 15 yrs ago, off BP meds, thanks to the Zone diet and Zone fish oil. ZoneFast 1-2-3 is the best!
View my Zone Fast 1-2-3 meal photos here:
http://s531.photobucket.com/albums/...3%20Meals/
View my classic Zone meal photos here:
http://s531.photobucket.com/albums/...4/?start=0 |
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Sue Knorr
Lost 100 lbs 18 yrs ago, off BP meds, thanks to the Zone diet and Zone fish oil.
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cranberrycat
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| 28 Nov 2010 02:01 PM |
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HaHa, Margaret! I was thinking it was the other Margaret at first because she posted prior to you about the formulazone website. Thanks for the "Australia" part, that definitely cleared it up for me! And, welcome back!!! |
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Cranberrycat
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Robin
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| 28 Nov 2010 02:24 PM |
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Hi-
New here and trying to figure out these blocks. So Greek yogurt (Chobani 0% fat is 18 gm protein and 7 gms carb) would be roughly 3 protein blocks and 1 carb? So definitely not a snack option but a breakfast one and add in some fruit?
Also, it only comes 0 fat-the Fage has an option of 2%-is that better? It's also only 15 gms protein. |
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cranberrycat
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| 28 Nov 2010 04:21 PM |
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Robin, greek yogurt is an excellent choice. Just adjust your serving size to be 1/3 of the stated serving size on the container (prob 1/3 cup). This would be 1 protein block and really not enough carb to worry about, so add a block of carb. If fat free, then double the fat block. I recommend fat free, then you can add your own monounsaturated fat. |
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Cranberrycat
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Margaret
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| 28 Nov 2010 05:24 PM |
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Hi Sue
Thanks for the formula. Would be good if they could put that info on the Zone website instead of just saying that our stats are outside the perimeter. I have printed your calculations and did the maths, looks like I should be having 11 blocks unless my exercise activity increases.
Margaret (from Australia) |
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Sue
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| 28 Nov 2010 05:58 PM |
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You're welcome Margaret. Glad the info helped. |
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Sue Knorr
Lost 100 lbs 18 yrs ago, off BP meds, thanks to the Zone diet and Zone fish oil.
Consultant of Zone Labs
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