"The Zone Diet continues to evolve"
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Sue
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27 Oct 2009 05:25 PM
    Hi!

    Here's an informative and interesting article just written by Barry Sears. It contains further explanation of his new fresh baked Zone foods, as well as his comments about the continuing evolution of the Zone.

    http://www.zonediet.com/tabid/130/i...volve.aspx
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    29 Oct 2009 11:25 AM
    WOW, very interesting article Sue!
    Thank you for posting it. I have to admit, I was very spectacle at first about this new line of foods. After reading this, it kind of makes me think about it differently. I personally like that Dr. Sears realizes we don’t live in an ideal world and that a “Palo Diet” is very rigid and hard to follow long term.
    Curious, will you be trying any of these new products?
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    29 Oct 2009 12:29 PM
    Yes. :-)
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    29 Oct 2009 01:40 PM
    Well...

    Yes, it is hard to live in a world that is as fast-paced as can be.

    Yet, ALL kinds of foods are prevalent. Good choices as well as bad choices. You can walk in to almost any store, and the produce section is abundant with fresh veggies and fruits, some are all cut up and ready for consumption. You can walk into the frozen food section and find all kinds of frozen veggies that only require a zap in the microwave. You can also find many kinds of protein that require very little preparation, and many stores carry those rotisserie chickens that are ready to go, just pick it up and take it home (sometimes even much less expensive than doing this at home).

    I don't think that one has to go "paleo" in order to follow the Zone Diet, so that makes the Zone less "rigid" to follow. And, it seems to me that with so many good choices available, it really makes the Zone fairly easy to follow.

    I also don't feel that we need to eat "ideally" all the time, in order to be successful in the Zone.

    So, why the big PUSH on this new product?

    I understand how the products may attract some to the Zone who would otherwise not consider it at all, but it doesn't seem to make sense to me for those of us who have "grown" into the Zone and have committed ourselves to a healthy lifestyle. I mean, if we have accepted the fact that we are not going to be bread eaters any longer, and have lived that way for many years, what is the big attraction here? Most of us who have made this change have no desire to go back to bread and grains.
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    29 Oct 2009 01:56 PM
    Sue, can't wait to hear your thoughts and recipes based on the new products!
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    29 Oct 2009 02:45 PM
    I'm all for the new superzone foods and if they help other people live a healthier lifestyle, that's great. However, if Dr. Sears truly wants to bring The Zone to the masses he needs to find a way to bring the price down. $14 plus shipping for a loaf of bread?

    Also, I'd like to hear why the Zone foods (and molecular baking) are better than other healthy but slightly "unfavorable" foods such as Dreamfields pasta, shirataki noodles, Healthy Heart High Fiber Low Carb (5g. c /slice) bread. etc.

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    29 Oct 2009 03:53 PM
    ...and sprouted grain breads too, which touts a fairly low GI/GL compared to other breads, and is a whole grain with more fiber than zone bread...

    I can't afford to purchase these products, either. That was one of the driving forces that convinced me to stop ordering zone bars (that, along with the fact that I had decided to approach the zone using foods with ingredients that I could pronounce).
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    29 Oct 2009 07:49 PM
    Well said CC!
    I will just continue to eat my sprouted grain bread and call it a day. I just wonder why Dr. Sears didn't use healthier ingredients in his "Super" foods. Artificial ingredients and fake sugars and hydrogenated oils and butter and sugar are NOT healthy. I will buy locally instead of from here. Good for those who can afford to eat this way, but I choose not to. Not only are the prices outrageous, the ingredients aren't that great. I eat organically, and I didn't see organic ingredients on the labels...and for the price of these products, they should be 100% organic.

    Phil, these products are better than those you listed obviously because they have his name on them and he makes no money off the other products!
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    31 Oct 2009 07:43 AM
    I will continue to eat the foods such as Phil mentioned, including dreamfields, plus my high fiber low carb wraps that are all natural. I don't like what I am reading for ingredients in these products, either. I may splurge and purchase some of the bars just to have tried them since it would not be something I would make a habit of eating daily, just on those days when I never get a break. I don't mind spending money, but on the other hand don't want to throw it away either.
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    31 Oct 2009 05:29 PM
    I will not start to eat these because I just can't.. Plus I cannot afford $$$..

    I stop drinking almost 2 years ago. Stop smoking cigarettes for the second time = not too long ago.. So addiction as always been in my life..

    Once I read this and it makes sens to me:

    "In my lifetime I quit smoking twice. And after having to quit the second time, I realized that anything difficult isn't worth doing twice, when you only really had to do it once. Life is WAY to short to keep going down the same roads where the scenery never changes."

    So yes quitting smoking & drinking was hard.. But quitting all 4P: Pizza, Pasta, Pain(breads) and Patates (potatoes) was hard too because this always has got me in trouble loosing control of my eating somehow..

    So even if Dr Sears meals are well balanced and made for people who wants convenience and not have to prepare everything from scratch (which I like) I am not trusting myself emotionally enough to try them... If I really want pasta I will make my own low fat protein sauce, use a dash of olive oil and measure 1-2 blocks maximum of pasta.. and the rest from fruits and vegetable... I will always TRY to the most of my capacites to refer to mastering the zone and using the unfavorable carbs as condiments only...

    But that is just me.. Everyone is entitle to their opinion.. Have a great evening and a nice weekend!
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    01 Nov 2009 07:58 AM
    Congrats on your accomplishments Christine!
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    01 Nov 2009 08:02 AM
    I do my best hihi!! One day I will be a saint if it keeps going!! But I have a lot to learn until then.. That is why I keep coming back to you guys just to feel the best!!!!!
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    04 Nov 2009 01:20 AM
    I agree completely, Cranberrycat. I have no urge to try any of these products...in fact my jaw practically dropped to the floor when the homepage first loaded with huge pictures of bagels lol.

    If this indeed is a gradual transition of sorts for those attempting to try The Zone, then I don't see any harm(although technically I do after seeing those prices...yikes! Should I fill up my gas tank or buy some bagels for the week?). I have a lot of friends who I tried to get on the zone and the jump from carb hell was just too hard for them. I hope that those who do purchase these products understand that they aren't ideal and should one day be ousted.

    I only looked at nutritional info for a few of the products, but I can only assume that most of them are 2.5 blocks. Given this, it still doesn't make it entirely convenient for everyone. Sure, for women it's pretty darn close to a 3 blocker...but for the average male an extra block+ needs to be added. So...since extra stuff needs to be brought out of the fridge ANYWAYS, why not just use that stuff for all 4 blocks...doesn't quite make sense to me.

    By the way, I wouldn't be surprised if those prices drop significantly. I just don't see how it can be feasible in most peoples budgets.
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    04 Nov 2009 12:09 PM
    Unfortunately, I am starting to get a different sense from the Video's and marketing of and by Dr. Sears on these foods. After a second look, he really appears to be promoting these as the next step,an evolutionary leap ahead, and it appears that he is promoting them as better, because of "...hormonal balancing in the gut, never before achievable...", etc or similar wording.
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    And though I can NOT see how they could be better - I know there must be certain amount of marketing spin - but it does appear that Dr. Sears is saying more than that.
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    I really wonder WHY the forum moderators who work for and speak for Dr. Sears - who used to clarify stuff like this on these forums, don't jump in and explain or clarify?
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    I don't think any watch these forum topics, anymore...

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    05 Nov 2009 11:37 AM
    I am not seeing how something manufactured could be better for us to eat than whole foods.
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    06 Nov 2009 01:41 PM
    Hi John,

    Over the next few weeks the staff at the Zone will address the Forums questions and concerns. Dr. Sears appreciates all who have used his products and promoted the Zone lifestyle.

    Hopefully, he has addressed many of your questions with his posting at: http://www.zonediet.com/tabid/130/i...volve.aspx

    Dr. Sears congratulates all who have been successful with the Zone program. For those individuals who do not have the dietary discipline to follow the Zone guidelines these new products can offer a solution to a longer and healthier life.

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    07 Nov 2009 08:42 AM
    <div class='NTForums_Quote'>Posted By Tech Support on 11/06/2009 2:41 PM


    Dr. Sears congratulates all who have been successful with the Zone program. For those individuals who do not have the dietary discipline to follow the Zone guidelines these new products can offer a solution to a longer and healthier life.

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    This is a goood point. it has been said that getting someone to change their eating is as hard as getting them to change their religion.
    If these products will help people to be healthier, that otherwise would not consider, or would be unable to change their eating, then they are a good thing.
    For me, I had already eliminated most starch based food products early this spring, so a transition to the zone diet a month ago was alot easier than for most, I only had to add more veggies and the proper amount of protein at every meal, instead of eating all my daily protein at supper like I was doing. So I need to be understanding, that it might be much harder for others, and I think that is where the zone foods will fit in.

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    09 Nov 2009 06:33 PM
    No matter what - the new molecular baked products are hideously overpriced!!!
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    09 Nov 2009 06:33 PM
    No matter what - the new molecular baked products are hideously overpriced!!!
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    09 Nov 2009 06:37 PM
    Definitely not a newbie

    Been on the zone since 1996
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    09 Nov 2009 10:20 PM
    Don't you just love how this site rates you Lise! lol
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    10 Nov 2009 11:27 AM
    In this same forum, under a different Subject,
    Tech support has summarized the "official position":

    Forum: SuperZone Foods
    Subject: Molecular Baking/Superzone Food

    http://www.zonediet.com/Community/F...fault.aspx

    Dr. Sears continually stresses that if you correctly follow his dietary guidelines, then you would never need to purchase any products from this Web site. The products that are offered on this Web site are to be used a dietary aids to make your long-term compliance with the Zone Diet easier. The most rigorous version of the Zone Diet would be to never consume anything that wasn’t available 10,000 years ago. This would mean never consuming grains, milk products, vegetable oils, caffeine, and alcohol while maintaining the appropriate ratio of protein to carbohydrate at every meal and snack. Obviously, that is difficult for many people to comply with. This is why he developed food products (including nutrition bars, EPA/DHA concentrates and polyphenols along with the newest generation of SuperZone products) as an aid for people who don’t have the dietary discipline to maintain a strict Zone Diet. If these new SuperZone products enable you to maintain better hormonal control, then you should consider integrating them into your existing Zone Diet. The same is true for any other nutritional product sold on this Web site.
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    10 Nov 2009 07:36 PM
    Hi John, I agree with most of your post, but i am kind of curious how we adapted best to having a balance of carbs and protein, I mean ancient man was a hunter gatherer, so yeah, no grains, dairy, etc, but they also had to eat what they could get for the day, sometimes mabye killing a mammoth and eating that for weeks, or finding good fruits when they are in season. I doubt they had a balanced meal too often, so the same logic that applies to grain and dairy, wouldn't that apply to combining protein and carbs at every meal?
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    11 Nov 2009 06:19 AM
    Just a note, MT - I was just posting the Tech Support response which was posted in another topic in this same forum. It s not necessarily my opinion nor necessarily my support there-of. I posted it in this and the the other topics - ONLY because there were three topics all on the new SuperFoods. Nothing more, nothing less. I am not Tech Support and I do not represent Dr. Sears. Sorry for the confusion.

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    14 Nov 2009 08:42 PM
    Wow, finally a post that makes some sense! THanks for sharing that, John.

    I know that this is a personal choice, and that there are many zoners who would not stick with it if they could not have their bread and their starches.

    But, don't you all think that it is a bit strange to see starchy products with the Zone name on them? I think it would have made more sense to have come up with something that wasn't made from flour!
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