I'm with you guys on this one The superfoods are a bad idea for the Zone. Stick to the basics zone blocks with paleo foods your good to go........

John, I have not seen the Cedarlane foods in stores for a very long time. But, they are available for purchase online at the Cedarlane website.

I really think that Sears should have kept the Superzone foods under the other name of "Medwell". This stuff should not be Zone.

After reading these posts, I went to check out the new Superzone way of eating, and the new foods. The bagels are as far as I got, with ingredients of sugar, and butter. Now, maybe it's not a lot of sugar, and it is need for them to raise, but there also was very little fiber. Heck, even the weight watchers bagels have a "LOT" of fiber in them. Also, I don't understand the diet with everything being totally different. I was so excited (and still am) to be back on the "original" Zone, and very confused with the changes on the Superzone diet. It does seem as if what we were originally taught is not so? I do think Dr. Sears is trying to target a society that is always on the run, though. I guess a few of the items could be incorporated into the old plan, but I think you can find equal items in the grocery store for a lot less money! BTY, I am so happy to find out that we can have a cup of Dreamfields Pasta - I also only would have it once a week for my pasta fix.

I'd like to see Dr. Sears explain to those of us who have been supporting him, his products, the Zone lifestyle - those of us who are advocates, and in small or many ways promote the Zone lifestyle - I'd like to see him explain the philosophy and purpose of these new UNSuperFoods. I also know rep who worked in HG of Dr. Sears used to occasionally answer questions, and explain things in these forums. However, I have not seen an official Sears Zone Forum Moderator make a posting her in quite a looong time.
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I watched the videos of these unSuperFoods, and it is more of a marketing/selling - not much explanation at all.
I know they have their place; however, for the price, and that's before shipping costs, I'd rather create my own "Pizza" and balance itmyself. And stay away from cookies, except as the occasional, treat for myself. Sure, not so much insulin controlled, but not exhorbitant cost for micro-whatever junk food ingredients.

I'd like to see Dr. Sears explain to those of us who have been supporting him, his products, the Zone lifestyle - those of us who are advocates, and in small or many ways promote the Zone lifestyle - I'd like to see him explain the philosophy and purpose of these new UNSuperFoods.
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At one time, Reps who worked in HQ of Dr. Sears used to occasionally answer questions, and explain things in these forums. However, I have not seen an official Sears Zone Forum Moderator make a posting here in quite a looong time.
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I watched the videos of these unSuperFoods, and it is more of a marketing/selling - not much explanation at all.
I know they have their place; however, for the price, and that's before shipping costs, I'd rather create my own "Pizza" and balance it myself. And stay away from cookies, except as the occasional, treat for myself. Sure, not so much insulin controlled, but not exhorbitant cost for micro-whatever junk food ingredients.

Agree.

I also am a bit concerned about this "molecular baking". Just WHAT IS that? Does anyone do it other than Sears? What exactly are we doing to these food molecules? Have there been extensive studies done to make sure that this is safe?

If these will help people who absolutely wont give up their grain based diet, more power to him!
As for me, I will eat most of my food the way nature made it, except for the omegaRX, and that pretty much eats up my buget for any other "food products"

I am starting the Zone diet using an older book...A week in the Zone. The 1-2-3 method looks easy enough to follow. I am more interested in eating healthy to lose weight. I love veggies. Meat and fruit will be hard for me. Any tips for getting enough protein?

Laurie, besides animal protein, other good sources of protein include cottage cheese, low-fat or non-fat yogurt (which also has carbs), low-fat string cheese, tofu and other soy products, and whey protein powder. Check out the Quick Start Guide on this Web site for more food choices.

I'm new to the Zone an moving slowly. Having difficulty with impulse eating. Just on the site reading about the Superzone Foods and even though they they may help my situation I really want to be successful with the traditional Zone program. I would prefer to spent my money on whole foods. I need to make a better effort to plan my meals. Thanks for reading.......

In this same Forum, under a different Subject,
Tech Support has summarized the "official position".
Forum>: SuperZone Foods
Subject>: Molecular Baking/Superzone Food

http://www.zonediet.com/Community/F...fault.aspx

Dr. Sears continually stresses that if you correctly follow his dietary guidelines, then you would never need to purchase any products from this Web site. The products that are offered on this Web site are to be used a dietary aids to make your long-term compliance with the Zone Diet easier. The most rigorous version of the Zone Diet would be to never consume anything that wasn’t available 10,000 years ago. This would mean never consuming grains, milk products, vegetable oils, caffeine, and alcohol while maintaining the appropriate ratio of protein to carbohydrate at every meal and snack. Obviously, that is difficult for many people to comply with. This is why he developed food products (including nutrition bars, EPA/DHA concentrates and polyphenols along with the newest generation of SuperZone products) as an aid for people who don’t have the dietary discipline to maintain a strict Zone Diet. If these new SuperZone products enable you to maintain better hormonal control, then you should consider integrating them into your existing Zone Diet. The same is true for any other nutritional product sold on this Web site.
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Zone Technical Support

Sylvia,
I'm rather new to the zone also. I find following the traditional zone program easier by also having the zone bars to supplement here and there. For me, my goal is to make the best food choices when my willpower is good, but having something a little easier when I need a break from cooking. I haven't approached the Superzone Foods because so far I have found contentment with what I am doing so far. I hope that helps...
Bitty

Koby, I totally agree with you. I live here in NYC and am always on the run. I actually have food delivery. So, I am happy he actually has something out now!

First, nobody should really be commenting without trying the products first and understanding the program in it entirety.

2. I'm not sure where this anti bread , pasta thing started..but the zone was and still continues to not exclude these foods. You just have to eat them in moderation as unfavorable carbs. However, medwell pasta, bread doesn't fit the definition of these products which are usually pure high glycemic load products...medwell 123 is not.

3. The medwell products may look and taste like their real counterparts, but are nothing like them. they contain significant amounts of protein and are quite tasty and filling.

4. The key to the Zone is hormonal balance which is made possible by the proper ratio of fat - to - protein - to carb. it is irrelevant for the most part how you get there if you are keeping the ratio. Obviously, you want the polyphenol, pgytonutrient benefits of fruits and vegetables as well as consuming the appropriate essential fatty acids in the correct ratio. If someone eats a brownie, and keep that ratio, as well as taking Dr Sears fish oil and sea health plus, as an example, then they are covered, probably better than most of you.

4. I'm hearing sort of this raw food/non processed kinda of angst/revolution here which is not what the zone is about at all. As an example, I'm guessing that many of make your own rules. I bet some of you don't take the minimum, 2.5 grams of fish oil every day. You might not take it at all, or use a lesser brand to save money, etc. This a key component of the Zone since the publishing of the OmegaRX Zone book. So for alll of you not taking fish oil, you're not following the Zone either. It's actually probably more important to do this than to completely avoid bread and pasta if you understand the sciene behind it.

Additionally, nobody (I mean nobody) is going to eat fish a few days a week and get the amount of EPA/DHA you need daily. You need to eat pounds and pounds of wild salmon to even get close wich most people don't buy...a can of tuna not going to cut it..sardines, specifically norwegian brisling are probably the best option due to their high omega3 content and very low amount of toxins. Sonce most people eat farmed salmon ( known as atlantic salmon), you're not getting anywhere close..also canned wild salmon works too..make sure it's not skinless/boneless

5. The medwell123 program includes that you eat 8 servings of veggies a day plus 2 fruits as well as the 3 meals and 1 or 2 snacks depending on whether you are male or female...sounds like a lot of veggies to me...

6. The medwell product which becomes the core component of the meal is your primary protein source as well as providing some carbs in the appropriate balance. For people that like their bread, pasta, pizza, it's a convenient way to go and without a doubt, the same feeling of satiety occurs here for 4-6 hours after having a medwell meal..as well as the same energy levels

7. A lot of you are making this a lot more confusing and disruptive than it actually is...it's not a sellout at all since the Zone never denied any food...go back and read the books...it is true that many people including myself are impacted by traditional grain products..in terms of insulin production, etc..but that isn't an issue with these products. Obviously, if you have celiac disease or can't eat wheat gluten, etc...yeah, you can't have these medwell products either.

8. i don't know how they make it and I don't care...but these foods are not so processed by typical standards today. The ingredient list on most of the products are just a handful of items and they are for the most part, completely discernable ( i know what they are) . You can also go to the medwell123 site and view the products under the "our food" section. You can click on a product and see the nutritional/ingredient info.

9. I've used the other Zone products like the bars and shakes, etc..that stuff is processed, been around for years, totally keeps you in the Zone and with no impact to your health. Just convenience, when it might not otherwise be possible to stay in the zone. Does that mean i'm not following the Zone, cuz I'm eating a apple cinnamon bar..no it doesn't. Also, the Zone web site has had their own pasta for years way before any of the medwell products. I believe it originated in Zona Italy since pasta such a big part of their diet.

10. The key is hormonal control - it is irrelevant how you get there..again assuming proper intake of omega6 to omega 3 fats as well as the additional health benefits of fruits/veggies or some kind of supplementation

11. Dr sears has a limited relationship with Cedarlane foods that also makes frozen zone products like burritos, omeletes, etc..they were available for a while at walmart supercenters and other stores. Now, i believe only mail order and they ship frozen. I cjallenge anybody to debate that someone eating those products daily is not in the Zone...they are. the Zone is not limited or reduced by convenience, or for that matter making a meal entirely from scratch. http://www.cedarlanetogo.com

11. I don't understand all this judgemental talk...what does it matter how you stay in the zone as long as you are there ?

Bring it on..lol

Mike

Good information Mike!

I've been eating the SuperZone plan and love it! I decided to go whole hog, as they say, and put it to the test. I'm one those people with the "fat trap" that Barry explains in TOXIC FAT. This means I have to practice very strict adherence to the Zone diet in order to receive its benefits. The SuperZone foods are giving me excellent hormonal control, better than I get from the Zone meals I've been eating for many years. Yes, really! I've been in the Zone for almost 15 years. I have always been very sensitive to grain products and also to many other carbohydrate foods that I've found to elevate my blood sugar too quickly, even when they represent only a small part of my Zone diet within the Zone recommendations for unfavorable carbohydrate. I can't even eat more than 2 blocks of steel cut oats at a time or I feel adverse effects such as early hunger accompanied by hypoglycemic symptoms, beginning to retain fluid, etc. I've had absolutely none of this happen with the SuperZone foods. None at all!

It's important to note that since I've been 'in the Zone' I haven't craved bread, pasta, etc. and I haven't constantly "cheated" or indulged in sweets, or baked goods. Nor was a having any difficulty following the traditional Zone diet. Regardless, the SuperZone foods have quickly become staples in my diet. They are nothing short of amazing. They're delicious, they're filling, they're fun to eat, and they are providing me with the best Zone experience I've had since I first started the Zone. I've posted here many times about how the Zone diet has felt freeing to me. The SuperZone plan takes that to yet another level. It's so very easy. There's no counting and not much thinking at all to putting a delicious meal together. Even better yet, I've become 7 pounds leaner during the past several weeks of following the SuperZone plan! (yeah!)

To everyone reading this, and especially to those who think they are eating a pure, clean, unprocessed diet, I urge you to read THE OMNIVORE'S DILEMMA by Michael Pollan.

Sue,

Definitely, the Pollan books are great..I also recommend Fast Food Nation by Eric Schlosser..it's a classic, quick read and really fascinating..i think it starts with him talking about the Norad bunker in Colorado and you can't imagine/wondering what that has to do with the book until it becomes clear where it's going..it's a great read..also a good audiobook for those prefer consuming it that way.

I was glad to read your post since I haven't posted a lot here and I re-read mine..i was concerned that it was too aggressive sounding or argumentative..which was not it's intent. I thought your tone was better than mine..anyway and good to compare notes in terms of how the superzone foods are working for you.

I was going to also add for Zoners that you have the ability to order the medwell foods in different configurations through the medwell123 website..Same stuff, but instead of ordering 5 sesame bagels since that's how ship on the zonediet website, you can order one of each kind of bagel on the medwell site...or any of the items for that matter. You need to order a week of food to do this, however.

It's easier to try different products and have more variety. Use the standard/custom ship/autoship options to order a 1 week order where it's comepletely mix/match for the week. What they call " a la carte" is like on this site where it's five of the same item. A one week autoship order is $56 dollars for women and $70 (plus shipping) for men since we get an extra snack...so it's 10 bucks a day..not that bad, especially for those that tyically eat out. No, I don't secretly work for medwell..lol...Obviously, you have to add veggies, etc..Everybody might know this, but if you didn't...I can assure you that your money is going to the same place and they have the autoship discount as well.

***also, i haven't seen the brownies on the zone site yet, and you can order them or the peanut butter granola on the medwell123 site...my brownies shipped today..for the 1st time..(YES, I did say brownies, can you believe it !!) and I've heard they are yummy, which is probably why they've been out of stock. BTW, those brownies have 7g fat, 14g protein, 21g carbs..perfecto!)

Has anyone seen that "Food, inc." movie ? I heard it was good, but missed it. I'm going to look for it on netflix if it's out. I believe there's a book/primer available that can be coupled with the movie for discussion, etc..

I think it's great..you certainly know and have stuck to the Zone as much as anyone..but you can be open to a new idea/modified concept. But the good thing is everybody has options here and you have the ability to stay in the Zone however you want. Nobody needs to feel slighted, threatened or irritated in terms of the new direction (IMO).. but I do respect all perspectives regardless

take care, mike

Hi mike,

Thanks for the compliments. You're right that I'm always open to something new.

No apologies needed. :-) It was obvious to me you were simply addressing the concerns some have voiced here, as you related you experiences.

Yes, I've read FAST FOOD NATION, but no, I haven't seen FOOD INC. either. I've also seen SUPERSIZE ME, which was downright sacry when you think about how some people still eat a lot of that kind of food.

Re "No, I don't secretly work for medwell.." I'd still want to hear what you had to say even if you did! I work for Zone Labs (for almost 2 years now). Most of the forum members know this already. The Zone forums are not part of the work I do. I've been posting here in the forums for between 9 and 10 years. I like to share my Zone knowledge and experiences to try to help others, kind of like the idea of 'pay it forward'.

BTW, last week I asked a Zone rep on the phone about the brownies and peanut butter granola. They are also going to be available as SuperZone foods.

Hmm,I live in NY too. If you don't mind me asking what do you pay for the service?

trixie, I remember that Chris has previously posted the name of the service she uses. You can probably find it with a search of her posts.

Hey Sue!
Actually I met to ask Christina.I'll look for Chris's posts though.
BTW: Got my first shipment of Superzone products. Tried the pretzel and Cinnamon buns, both great! Tonight making the pizza!

Hi,

Thanks, I knew you were asking her the question, but since she hasn't had the time to post here for the past couple weeks I thought I'd point you in the direction of the answer. :-) After I posted that reply, I checked quick and found the post. It's in this thread: http://www.zonediet.com/Community/F...fault.aspx

You got the order, great! I love the pizza crusts. If you like them softer and a little chewy, bake them for the shorter amount of time shown (depends on your oven, too).

Hi Sue,

I've written before and you've always been so helpful. I am an avid Zoner living on Long Island and have done this way of eating for about 6 years now. There is no better way of life on the market!

my question is about the new molecular baking. When I looked up calories/fat/etc., it seemed like lots of things had to be added to make any of the foods into complete Zone meals. I'm almost 'afraid", after going without pasta, potatoes, bagels, etc. for so long that these foods would increase my desire for them again.

How would I work say a bagel from the molecular baking into my daily zone food intake and still lose/maintain my weight?

Thanks for the input

sue k

Hi sue,

It's good to hear from you again!

I was a little scared to try them at first, too. But, after my first SuperZone snack, I had no more concern about that. The first snack I had was the chocolate chip cookie at 3 in the afternoon. By 7 PM I still was feeling great, had absolutely no hunger, no thoughts of it being time to eat, and excellent mental clarity and energy. I couldn't believe it!

Actually you don't have to add anything you don't want to, or you can add a little bit of any Zone favorable food. When you receive a SuperZone order, eating plan information comes with it, including a sample 2 week meal plan. It's very simple and easy. Some of the things I've added to a bagel are:

1 or 2 tablespoons light cream cheese (I've also used the light flavored ones ; onion and chive, garden veggie, and strawberry)
1/2 to 1 tablespoon light cream cheese and 1/2 ounce smoked salmon
red pepper hummus
1 tablespoon of peanut butter
a couple teaspoons of almond butter
egg white salad
lettuce, tomato and a slice or two of deli turkey
spread with some pesto
a slice or two of deli turkey and some pesto
pizza sauce and a little grated parmesan or mozzarella, then slip it under the broiler

The bagels are delicious toasted, too.

For more ideas, you can check out the sample recipes in the SuperZone tab. I really like the Lemon Hummus Avocado Sandwich recipe made with a bagel.

For dinner tonight I had the Quick Picadillo Sandwich made with the Hearty White Roll (in breakfast food section). I've made it several times and the whole family loves it!

When you try them, let us know what you think!

Morning Sue!
Thanks for hooking me up with that link! You’re always soo thoughtful!
Thanks for the pizza tip. I think I over cooked it the other night, still was tasty though!
BTW: I heard you mentioning Superzone brownies, are they going to be offered soon? Also, are they planning on coming out with new bars? I noticed many flavors are no longer available??

Hi trixie,

You're welcome!

I did something similar the first time I made a pizza with the SuperZone flatbread, but it was delicious! :-)

Yes, I asked a Zone phone representative when I was ordering the other day. I was told the brownies will be available but she didn't have a date yet.

I don't know anything about new bar flavors. There are 2 new shake flavors. I like them both.