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Donna
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19 Mar 2012 12:49 PM
Hi Tech Support & Cranberry,

I'll see if I can directly ask Dr Sears. I was reading some previous posts from the past and it mentions that cod liver oil is usually contaminated. So even if cod liver oil is better, I'm not sure where to buy a safe one to take.

I'm looking forward to receiving my order but am wondering if i should order fish oil again opposed to codliver oil in the future.

thanks so much.

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19 Mar 2012 04:52 PM
Livestrong suggests that it is the Omega-3 that is important, so there would not be any specific benefit to using cod liver oil.
http://www.livestrong.com/article/3...-glaucoma/

Another website says the same thing, stressing that it is the Omega-3 that is the important thing.
http://www.eye9.net/cod-liver-oil-f...ucoma.html

This is not to be taken as a substitute for your doctor's advice, but from what I read, it looks like they are talking specifically about the Omega-3 and its ability to help drain the aqueous humor, to help lower the eye pressure. So, I would conclude that the fish oil that you ordered here is going to work just fine!

BUT AGAIN: please check with your doctor!!!

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19 Mar 2012 07:28 PM
Hi Cranberrycat,

Thanks for taking the time to reserch this for me. the articles were helpful. I appreciate it very much.

This is encouraging news. I agree. I always thought that it was the omega 3's that was important in the cod liver oil. I don't have glaucoma. I only asked my doctor if fish oil swas good and he said yes. My girlfrind is the one who told me that it has to be cod liver oil.

Now if the oil that I ordered would help with my extremely annoying hot flashes, I will be forever grateful lol!

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Donna

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19 Mar 2012 09:15 PM
Donna, you are in luck! Fish oil is going to be of great benefit for you! Combining fish oil with the Zone Diet should help you to manage your hormones, too!

You might want to consider checking out a book from the library--the OMEGA RX ZONE. This book is a bit scientific, but goes into great detail regarding the combination of fish oil and the Zone to help prevent/treat a variety of health conditions. I know that "womens issues" are addressed in the book. It is an excellent reference!
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20 Mar 2012 01:24 AM
Hi Cranberrycat,

Sounds exciting! I will buy the book this week. In time I'll let you know if it helps.

thank you,
Donna
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20 Mar 2012 07:10 AM
I agree with Cran on "The Omega-RX Zone" book.
It was the one that got to me 8 years ago.

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25 Mar 2012 08:01 PM
Well, I just got myself put on Autoship for the liquid. I did this about 10 years ago when I first started taking fish oil. And it DID ruin the shelf of my refrigerator. Since then, I have learned that my aromatherapy essential oils eat through plastic, too, and have to be bottled extremely carefully in regards to the LIDS. I need to take 4 gm/day and using capsules becomes pretty expensive. And I am sick to death of figuring out doses per capsule with different brands. Sears' is the best, and I'm going to use it. Haven't decided yet on the polyphenol supplements. I love the effects of fish oil, can feel it in my body if I miss 2 days in a row. And feel great when I resume. All joints work better. I was interested in learning today that the fish oil has a long half-life in the body. That's good to know.

Any cardiac surgeon, of whom I know at least 20, will tell you that people who take high-dose fish oil and who do not stop it at least a week prior to surgery will bleed like 'stuck pigs' quote/unquote, lol. But I've never seen anyone who takes fish oil not respond to fresh frozen plasma and/or platelet administration if they had a bleeding problem post op. In my mind, the benefits outweigh the risks by an exponential factor. 'nuff said.

I just watched the web cast of Dr. Sears talking about FO and TBI. I worked with Julian Bailes and took care of that miner in the ICU of a hospital I used to work at. Sears is a national treasure and has changed millions of lives for the better. It was also good to hear him, in the question answer session, address the significant superiority in the meat of grass-fed animals. He also talked about research in developing a vegetarian source of Omega 3 EFAs-- that being the algae from which they come. The fish don't make the oils, the algae that the fish eat make the oils. And algae is a plant. If it can be done, Barry will do it. I hope he is content with what he has accomplished. He is STILL decades ahead of his time. I'm looking forward to watching more of his webcams. His daughter is a cutie pie, too.

BTW, my weight loss is moving right along. Almost 20 lbs since the beginning of Feb. Totally easy to comply with the Zone requirements. This is easy, people! MUCH more insulin sensitive. Need 20 units of Lantus/day rather than 90. Of course the belly fat is the hardest to get off, but even a few inches less girth adds up to alot of mass gone. None of my pants fit. I have 25-30 more pounds to go. My carb cravings are gone, and I don't get much pleasure from sweets. I don't miss bread or pasta, except for the convenience. At no point am I ever starving or crazy to get more food. In fact, it's easier for me to NOT eat than to eat bad stuff. My body kind of likes the lower carb ranges, at least for now. Definitely moved into the 'burn fat' zone, which is usually so elusive at my 50-something age.
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25 Mar 2012 10:24 PM
Thanks for the info, Debbie!

As I was reading about the fish oil ruining the shelf in the fridge, I thought I would share that I always kept my bottle in the freezer sitting in a ceramic mug. The mug protects it from contact with the shelf, and the fish oil does not seem to be eating through the ceramic at all.

Totally agree when I miss the doses, too. When I first started taking it, I didn't really notice a huge difference in how I was feeling, until I stopped taking it. Suddenly noticed over the next several days that my body was not moving as well, definintely did not feel "lubed up".

NIce progress!
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26 Mar 2012 08:01 AM
I just read that it appears that taking vitamins at dinner is supposed to be better than at breakfast.
I did not get the details because it requires a subscription, and I feel the fee is too high.
So, I do not know if that particular study would also apply to Fish Oil (Onega-3: EPA & DHA specifically).

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26 Mar 2012 12:07 PM
John.. Dr Sears recommends you take your fish-oil about 30 minutes before eating. I take mine each morning before breakfast while I am drinking my coffee. I have heard Dr Sears say we humans are not cut outs with a cookie cutter. So in this case.... It may be great for me to take it before breakfast for others it my be best after breakfast, before lunch etc. etc.
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31 Mar 2012 02:58 PM
I am a bit concerned. I got my Zone FO delivery yesterday. I took yesterdays dose, and put the FO in the freezer, as I have always done in the past when I used liquid FO. So, I just took it out of the freezer to take today's dose, and it is SOLID. That has never happened to me before. I thought high-quality FO was not supposed to solidify in the freezer--that being one of the indicators of purity. What's up here???
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31 Mar 2012 03:02 PM
Oh, and OF COURSE the server acts up when I do a search of the forums "fish oil in freezer", won't let me see any of the 20 pages except the first page of results. Disgruntled.


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02 Apr 2012 12:20 PM
I just sent the problems you discribed to IT... Hopefully that helps with the disgruntling.
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02 Apr 2012 01:11 PM
Debbie ... trying using the main search window.... located along the top of the page (in yellow strip)... for any further searching...
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03 Apr 2012 07:45 PM
Hi Everyone,

I hope I'm posting in the right catergory.

Is there any information in the zone website concerning pressure in your eyes relating to glaucoma and fish oil. I don't have glaucoma but I am wondering if taking fish oil would help prevent it if you have been diagnosed with the pressure which could cause it.

Thank you,
Donna
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03 Apr 2012 08:46 PM
Donna, I just did a web search on it a few weeks ago, and there is some benefit, although I can't quote the details offhand (Am on a mini vacation). It was a fairly recent post, so you should find it.
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03 Apr 2012 11:18 PM
Thanks Cranberrycat! I'll try and find it.
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04 Apr 2012 08:23 AM
Glaucoma is essentially high blood pressure in the eye. Higher levels of EPA and DHA should reduce the pressure.
The best way to determine one’s ideal dosage is the AA/EPA test (http://drsears.com/ArticlePreview/t...ault.aspx)
The test, a $150 value, is offered complimentary for those who purchase 6 bottles of OmegaRx since January 2012.
For studies and information please go to http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed and use the search feature entering “glaucoma, fish oil.”
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04 Apr 2012 08:33 AM
Techie, is that a running special on the fish oil, or is that something that is normally offered? I had not hard of it before, nor have I seen it advertised.
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04 Apr 2012 08:41 AM
Was put in place since January... It is ongoing and right not has no end date (subject to change). The test is a valuable indicator of silent inflammation. The kit is sent to you... It does require your doctor to sign off on it. There are detailed instructions that come with the kit.
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04 Apr 2012 02:13 PM
Hi,

I found out I have pressure of 20 in both eyes yesterday. I was prescribed Xalantan eye drops. I am afraid to take them because they are for life. I am hoping along with excerse and change of diet and especially taking fish oil will help. If not then I will have to take them.

I received my fish oil yesterday along with the polyphenols rx. It's weird how things are happening. I finished my very last krill oil capsule, found out I have pressure in my eyes and when I got home the fish oil was in my mailbox. It's like someone is watching over me

Anyways took 1 teaspoon with dinner and a polyphenol and then put it in the freezer. Today when i want to take it, it is frozen solid. Is this normal? How long do I have to wait for it to thaw out? I'd rather not have to wait in the future so is it ok to put in the fridge instead?

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04 Apr 2012 02:20 PM
Donna... if you leave it out for about 2-3 minutes it will pour from freezer. It is not frozen solid. This is normal. It appears that the omega 3’s with the lowest levels of PCB’s allow the fatty acids to crystallize easier than other lots or batches. Usually, if you take your bottle of liquid OmegaRx out of the freezer you’ll be able to shake the bottle after 2-3 minutes allowing the crystallization in the upper part of the bottle to break up. We have received reports that after a 5-6 servings the contents remain in a liquid form.


If the procedure of shaking the bottle is an inconvenience you can safely store the fish oil in the refrigerator.

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04 Apr 2012 02:39 PM
Thank you Tech Support. Actually it did thaw out in 3-5 minutes. It'll be fine to keep in the freezer.

One final question for now. Do i have to take the polyphenol rx capsule with the fish oil at the same meal?

I recieved the Omega RX zone book today! Can't wait to start reading it. I see there are cook books too on the site.

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04 Apr 2012 03:29 PM
Dr Sears does recommend you take it with the fish oil. Yes... The more you read the better. There is a ton of resources on www.zonediet.com and on http://www.drsears.com/Resources/ta...fault.aspx


Protecting omega 3’s from internal oxidation is important, that’s one reason Dr. Sears suggests supplementing with a minimum of 8000 ORAC units per 2.5g/d (2,500mg) of EPA & DHA per day. Information on polyphenols is at these links:
http://www.zonediet.com/polyphenols
http://blog.zonehealth.com/2011/02/...yphenols/.
http://www.zonediet.com/blog/tag/polyphenols/
http://www.zonediet.com/blog/tag/polyphenols/page/2/
http://www.zonediet.com/blog/2011/01/the-secret-of-blueberries-it%E2%80%99s-the-dephinidins/
http://www.zonediet.com/blog/2011/06/another-new-wrinkle-in-the-cholesterol-story/
http://www.zonediet.com/blog/2011/03/how-polyphenols-make-probiotics-work-better/
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04 Apr 2012 09:45 PM
Hi Tech Support,

Thank you for taking the time to refer all of these articles! What a great site with such helpful and nice people.

best regards,
Donna
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