Four weeks heaven, then hell
Last Post 10 Apr 2004 05:40 AM by PavelZ. 4 Replies.
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PavelZ
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10 Apr 2004 05:40 AM
    Hi, the zone worked for me wonderfully for the first four weeks. I lost 15 lbs, no hunger, high energy and the most important no sweets craving. I appreciate the last one the most as this is the major problem of my eating. For the first time in my life I forgot to think about food. This subject disappeared from my life! Than the sugar craving came back with the full force. This is a war. I am doing what I can already for three weeks. They are winning! The food is the same like before and think OK. I calculate everything on a comp. The GI is also OK, I think. The energy goes down after the meal, my head is spinning. What am I doing wrong? Thanks a lot, Pavel.
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    10 Apr 2004 10:12 AM
    Hi PavelZ, 4 lbs. a week is rapid fat loss. Depending on how you have calculated your LBM and protein requirements, you could be hungry. Sue is the real expert at evaluating typical food ingredients. If she doesn't reply immediately, you might do a search on her posts, especially her "conversation" with Satu last fall. "The Top 100 Zone Foods" contains great information if your interests lead that way. Last weekend I was reading "The 120-year Diet", written about 15 years ago. It claimed that 1500 calories of organic food deliver the same nutrients as 3,000 calories of mass-produced processed food. An interesting angle, if there's any truth to that statement. Charlie
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    10 Apr 2004 12:41 PM
    [quote:8c6925400c="cduane"]Hi PavelZ, 4 lbs. a week is rapid fat loss. Depending on how you have calculated your LBM and protein requirements, you could be hungry. Sue is the real expert at evaluating typical food ingredients. If she doesn't reply immediately, you might do a search on her posts, especially her "conversation" with Satu last fall. "The Top 100 Zone Foods" contains great information if your interests lead that way. Last weekend I was reading "The 120-year Diet", written about 15 years ago. It claimed that 1500 calories of organic food deliver the same nutrients as 3,000 calories of mass-produced processed food. An interesting angle, if there's any truth to that statement. Charlie[/quote:8c6925400c] Hi, Pavel, I agree with Charlie that 15 lbs lost in 4 weeks is a bit too high. It probably indicateds you aren't really in the Zone. IMO this would account for the symptoms you are describing now. I'd normally offer to review your block requirements and a sample of your menu in an average day, but due to the fact that tomorrow is a holiday and the next day I'm having a very major surgery, I probably wouldn't have time to review it. If you can post your LBM, type of exercise and amount of time spent on it in one week, and a sample of a daily menu including specific foods and amounts of each food, maybe someone will take a look and offer suggestions. Another suggestion would be to reread your Zone book. I've seen this suggested by dr. Sears. Sometimes you'll pick up on someting you didn't notice at first. ("A Week in the Zone" or "Mastering the Zone" is a good choice for this.) But be sure to use the Zone food block guide on this site. It's the most up to date. If all else fails, look at the picture of a day of meals in the Zone(on this site). Then, using divide the plate method, try to make your meals look like those in the pictures. And to Charlie, that is certainly interesting info about the nutrient values of OG foods. Wonder if it is true? I've been eating OG as much as I can for years, and since I had the early stage breast cancer 2 yr ago, I'm eating [b:8c6925400c]only[/b:8c6925400c] OG for all dairy, meat and poultry. Sue 8)
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    Lost 100 lbs 18 yrs ago, off BP meds, thanks to the Zone diet and Zone fish oil.

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    10 Apr 2004 02:42 PM
    Charlie, Sue, thanks for your thoughts. Sue, I am sure everything will go excellent with your surgery! I know the weight loss was too large during the first four weeks but I really did not miss anything. I was fine physically and mentally. No hunger, no sugar needs. I am not sure if this is zone or not, I guessed it was. It is right that sometimes I skipped the night block because I felt I did not need/want it. Now with the same food it looks like my body become more sensitive to carbohydrates. When I eat a zone meal I feel sleepy and my head goes around just a couple of minutes after the meal. I decreased the carbs for 30% (increased the fats so the energy is the same). It helps but I am still not in the first four weeks. I will try to decrease the carbs even more but would I not be on a high protein diet after a while? How low can I go with the carbs? Thanks, Pavel.
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    11 Apr 2004 12:21 PM
    Pavel, please post what you ate for a day and the nutritional information that you have available. I would not start removing more food from what you already eat until the people on this board can give you some idea of what is wrong. I'm in agreeance with the others in that your body is probably hungry and your severe carb cravings and reaction is a response to deprivation.
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