Help! Is there anyone from New Zealand doing the Zone? I really want to start The Zone but am totally confused on where to start especially food wise as it mainly relates to the USA with a lot of foods we don't have here. Even anyone from Aussy which is a wee bit closer to home. Would really appreciate any help, I am desperate to try this. Thanks.

Hi Rach, [quote:eb23aeb45f="Rach"]Help! Is there anyone from New Zealand doing the Zone? I really want to start The Zone but am totally confused on where to start especially food wise as it mainly relates to the USA with a lot of foods we don't have here. Even anyone from Aussy which is a wee bit closer to home. Would really appreciate any help, I am desperate to try this. Thanks.[/quote:eb23aeb45f] Food is food regardless of your country. Basicfoods are actually best. You can follow the zone without ANY of the highly processed American foods. The only exception to that is the Fish oil. You really need Pharmacutical grade. There are 2 zone consultants in your country but neither were certified by Dr. Sears. Both sell his product at an inflated NZ$95 a bottle (they pay about NZ$40 for it) I note there are 3 Kiwi's on the www.anne-marie.ca forums so you might like to check that out. Once you discover the "free Liquid gold" easter promotion, you will never look back. (But people in other countries will have more to gain than you) White Light

Some food values are different due to area but it's not a lot of difference. It's the food names that get me like swiss chard for silverbeet lol [url]http://www.dietclub.com.au/[/url] is a good Aussie nutrient site but their diet info sucks. Just type in the food and you'll get the nutrient breakdown - you can adjust the amount. There is also [url]http://www.foodstandards.gov.au/npc...;/url] - this is the Aust/NZ food standard site also for nutrient values. I found some NZ zone info at some stage - I googled Zone+diet. You can use this site to convert cooking stuff [url]http://www.globalgourmet.com/cgi-bi...;/url]

Maigan wrote: [quote:f02cf109cb]There is also [url]http://www.foodstandards.gov.au/npc...;/url] - this is the Aust/NZ food standard site also for nutrient values.[/quote:f02cf109cb] I love this site and use it often for creating my own combinations! It gives all the neutritional values of most things. One I found interesting was the carbs in fresh fruit ( our peaaches, nectrines etc that are available right now). It gives them by the gram so I dont have to guess the size of a medium peach, and strawberries you can eat a punnet full before you get to 1C block!!! :) (but the calories ar a different thing) They have some software that is free to the public for creating the neutritional values in recipes...but for me i actually find this frustrating cause I cant save my own ingredients and have to type them all in again next time ( so back to the old spread sheet way) cheers Top

@ TB - I downloaded their stuff but went back to using the 'accessibility version' (the HTML based site). Every now and again I check diet Club against them. BTW - depending on where you are you will find it really hard to lok up many Norco products. I wrote to them and they are a subsidiary of Pauls and said just to look up Pauls products. @ Rach - I found these: [url]http://www.ubd.co.nz/company-profil...;/url] [url]http://www.zonediet.co.nz/[/url] I think they end up at the same place and the bottom one has a Zone certified person.

Maigan, If i use a bought product i just use the neutritional values form the packet in my own Spreadsheet. So I use the site just for individual items, mainly fresh ones..eg the fruits, beans and vegs. i agree that the accessability version is the best (but rarely use it) Cheers Top

Maigan wrote 'what gets me is the American names...lol' Me too! I've been reading American nutrition books for years & tried to disregard them (the names that is) but an awful lot of them crop up in the 'really good' category on the Zone. You seem to have done a alot of research on this - you cleared me up on Swiss Chard (I'm Oz) - & I'm wondering if I could pick your brain on the following: Collard greens Kale Okra Spaghetti squash Yellow squash Escarole Romaine lettuce Turnip greens Also I have been completely unable to find black beans, either dry or tinned, or groats (which are said to be whole oats) or steel cut oats. None of these in BI-LO or my local health food shop. TIA :D Barbara

There is an excellent New Zealand Zone website. Try this link www.zoneperfect.com/Site/content/downunder_detail.asp?ID=5136 You could also try one of the free books at the website www.geocities.com/glorioushealth written by an Australian health writer with zone diets. Kindest regards, Andrew Cavanagh

Zoneperfect is not Barry Sears' compnay, nor does he endorse any of their services.

Hi, I work a lot with the zone diet in New Zealand Here are a few pointers. I've still to work out some American translations. Winter squash = pumpkin, buttercup etc Summer squash = courgette (zucchini) marrow yellow squash = yellow zucchini cantaloupe = rockmelon bell pepper = capsicum Some of those other veges like swiss chard I have not seen in NZ. Steel cut oats - very hard to find, I use whole grain old fashioned oats, they cook really slowly like steel cut oats. Canadian bacon - we don't have the same product but you can use really low fat bacon instead. Egg substitute - not available, the only sort is carbohydrate based non fat cheese - not available, best cheese choices are Galaxy Aria, by Mainland foods, Karikaas low fat Edam, or those low fat cheese slices, except they have some carbs in them. Most of the other cheeses available are a bit too high in fat - even the reduced fat ones. String cheese = mozzarella cheese, reduced fat is best. Most of our soy sausages etc available are very high in added fat and carbohydrates - always check labels. Translations for onverting cholesterol units To convert total cholesterol, LDL, HDL from NZ units (millimoles per litre) to US units (milligrams per decilitre) multiply by 38.67 To convert triglycerides from NZ (mmol/l) to USA (mg/dl) multiply by 88.5 Hope this helps. I am putting together a more complete list to help all those trying to convert some USA food and measurements and would welcome any imput. I would be happy to make it available when complete.

A few more confusing names clarified: Swiss Chard = silverbeet (comes in different colours) Turnip greens - edible green tops of turnips, I've never seen people eat them here Collard greens and Kale are related - leafy vegetables from the brassica family. I've only seen kale for sale at one shop in Auckland New Zealand, its a dark green very frilly sort of cabbage leaf. Black beans - I have only seen them at health food stores. Endive = whitloof chicory or radicchio (I've only seen it in some vegetable shops) Arugula = rocket - widely available Hope this helps confused Kiwis and Aussies

Hi Julianne, [quote:719703945c="julianne taylor"]A few more confusing names clarified: Swiss Chard = silverbeet (comes in different colours) Turnip greens - edible green tops of turnips, I've never seen people eat them here Collard greens and Kale are related - leafy vegetables from the brassica family. I've only seen kale for sale at one shop in Auckland New Zealand, its a dark green very frilly sort of cabbage leaf. Black beans - I have only seen them at health food stores. Endive = whitloof chicory or radicchio (I've only seen it in some vegetable shops) Arugula = rocket - widely available Hope this helps confused Kiwis and Aussies[/quote:719703945c] Are You the ZP certified consultant in NZ that has yet to undertake the Sears certification ?? Why have abbotts abandoned the cause if favour of selling drugs ? Nice to see you in the real world White Light

1. Yes you are right - I am ZP certified but not certified by Sears, although I have been to one of Sears' education seminars. The US is long way to get to when you have 2 young children recently adopted from a Russian orphanage and you live in New Zealand. I have read and keep up with all of Sears publications and info on the website and I try to represent his work as acurately as I can. 2. I cant speak for Abbotts 3. Which real world are you referring to?