Tech, Is the SeaHealth Plus a vegetarian product? I see that it contains honey so it is not vegan, and I do not see any fish oil ingredient, but .... Thanks, Robbin

There are no animal products in the Seahealth.

[quote:43fd5f1906="angelrob"] I see that it contains honey so it is not vegan[/quote:43fd5f1906] Forgive my limited knowledge on bee-keeping, but why would vegans not eat honey?

Scott, The discussion that I've read says that it is because bees die in the production of honey (not all, of course, but they can get crunched when the honey is removed from the hive). Rather like the ethical reasons for not eating eggs and milk. Robbin

True. Also, there are trace amounts, often invisible, of bees' bodies in honey (hairs and tiny barbs from their legs). A complete vegan would not want to eat even a trace of bee. For the same reason, honey is not certified as Kosher by the Orthodox Union, as honeybees are one of the 'swarming things' forbidden to eat. (A discussion of edible insects that [i:f12e3554f9]are[/i:f12e3554f9] considered kosher shall be saved for another day. :P )

[quote:8e3b296d2a="adam_h"]True. Also, there are trace amounts, often invisible, of bees' bodies in honey (hairs and tiny barbs from their legs). A complete vegan would not want to eat even a trace of bee. [/quote:8e3b296d2a] I wonder if peanut butter is off limits because of the trace amounts of bugs in the manufacturing process of it? Which got me wondering if fruit should be off limits since its consumption would disrupt the co-evolutionary process that has occurred between flowering plants and insects.

:lol: Well, if trace amounts of bugs are a problem, then nothing produced in a factory could be eaten! I think it's actually because it's inherent in the process of getting the honey. If random bugs getting in the way were a problem, then fields couldn't be plowed or harvested with machinery because bugs and animals can get run over...it's all a continuum and different people draw their line in different places. I once read an article in Vegetarian Times that no one could truly be a vegetarian (let alone vegan) and live in a modern society as animal products are used in everything from film to roofing materials to tires to you name it, and there are so many "traces" of animal products of some sort in so many manufactured foods that unless you eat only vegetables and fruit and make your own everything, you've probably eaten or worn or used something animal.... I've been a vegetarian for 20+ years and I'm quite sure I've eaten something in a restaurant or prepared meal that I wouldnt' have chosen to put into it, were I making it. I make the choice where ever I can and just deal with it when I can't. Robbin

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