Herring? Quark? Blocks?
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Al
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09 Aug 2008 05:38 AM
    Hi,

    I was wondering if anyone knew about raw herring? How much would make 1 block? I guess it's similiar to salmon and it's a protein.

    Also, we have a thing in Finland called Rahka, I think the English name is quark...How much would make 1 block and again, I guess it would be a protein. (it comes in pots a bit like yoghurt so it's easy for snacks/breakfast :D )

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quark_(cheese)

    The product I buy has (per 100 grams):

    244 kj
    57 Kcal
    9.8 g protein
    4.1 g carbs
    0.2 g fat

    Thanks...

    I have no idea how to 'turn' foods in to blocks if they're not on the food list :confused:


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    09 Aug 2008 06:47 AM
    Hi Al!

    I agree on the herring.

    The amount of quark you posted would be considered 1P block and 1/2 C block. You'd also have to add the fat that missing. Each P block is presumed to have at lease 1.5 grams of fat. If the protein you choose has less, you'd doule the fat blocks you'd usually add. If your protein choice contains significantly more than 1.5 grams fat per P block you wouldn't need to add any fat blocks to the meal (refer to this explanation in the FAQ chapter of "Mastering the Zone").

    7 grams protein = 1 P block

    9 grams insulin stimulating carbohydrate (total carbohydrate minus total fiber) = 1 C block

    1.5 grams fat = 1 F block (keep in mind that 3 grams of fat is needed to balance, but ha;f ot hte , or 1.5 grams, is usually hidden in the protein block)
    Sue Knorr

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    Al
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    09 Aug 2008 07:31 AM
    Hi

    thanks. The quark is an easy snacka s I said and easy for breakfast which is a very hard meal for me to eat...things like yogurt and quark usually go down well.

    So about 70 grams of quark would be about 1 block of fat 1/2 a C block. and I'd need to add a block of fat?

    (sorry, I'm on my second day and had 3 zone based meals, so still a bit confused)
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    09 Aug 2008 07:39 AM
    I have never heard of quark before! You said it was in a tub like yogurt? Does it taste at all like yogurt? Or is it like a cottage cheese?

    Just curious!

    BTW, just looking at your figures. Your first post suggested a 100 gram serving, but your second post suggests a 70 gram serving. If your first post was accurate for 100 grams, then dropping it to 70 grams would still give you a block of protein, but your carb probably goes down to 3 (and you should have around 9 grams of carb per block). So, you would really only have 1/3 block of carb, and might not be worth counting!

    If it is like a yogurt or cottage cheese, you can add some fruit to it, like some strawberries, to bring up the carb content. And sprinkle some almonds on top.

    Enjoy!
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    09 Aug 2008 08:13 AM
    Well it comes in a 250 gram tub...the grams of protein I gave were for a 100 gram serving.

    Quark...I am from England live in Finland, it was new to me too. Some sporty types and body builders eat it cos of the hi protein amounts, that's how I discovered it...It's a bit like a yogurt, same texture, looks like it, but slightly sour...only slightly. I usually eat it that way, add some fruit or something, It's quite common in northern, central, easten Europe..

    You can cook with it too and make similiar things to cheese cakes and the Russians make an easter dessert with it.

    Heres a picture (with blended strawberries)

    http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t157/Tiketzu88/Tiken%20Reseptien%20kuvat/jalkiruoat/Mansikkarahka2.jpg
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    09 Aug 2008 08:44 AM
    [quote]Posted By Al on 08/09/2008 8:31 AM

    Hi

    thanks. The quark is an easy snacka s I said and easy for breakfast which is a very hard meal for me to eat...things like yogurt and quark usually go down well.

    So about 70 grams of quark would be about 1 block of fat 1/2 a C block. and I'd need to add a block of fat?

    (sorry, I'm on my second day and had 3 zone based meals, so still a bit confused)[/quote]


    You're welcome Al!

    Thanks for the photo!

    I'm familiar with quark and it would make a good snack or meal with the addition of some fruit and fat. I think you have a typo there (typed "fat" instead of "protein"), but yes, 70 grams would also be considered one block of protein (anywhere in the range of 7 to 10 grams of protien is considered to be one P block). If you add either 1 or 1/2 a block of carb to it you should do fine. To be precise you'd add 2/3 C block to 70 grams of that quark, but it's not necessary to be that precise for the Zone.

    You would also add 2 blocks of fat (1.5 g each) to that amount of quark because it is practically fat free according to the info you posted previously.

    I'll be glad to help if you have more questions.

    Cheers!
    Sue Knorr

    Lost 100 lbs 18 yrs ago, off BP meds, thanks to the Zone diet and Zone fish oil.

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    Al
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    09 Aug 2008 09:01 AM
    Great thanks...I'll be bugging you with more questions as the weeks go on.

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    09 Aug 2008 09:18 AM
    My pleasure!

    Have a great weekend!
    Sue Knorr

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    09 Aug 2008 10:18 AM
    Hi, Al!

    Thanks for the picture and the description. Yes, looks like fruit would work nicely, and perhaps topped off with some sliced almonds--sounds yummy!

    Regarding Sue's post, I hope that the confusion regarding the protein grams does not confuse you. 10 grams of protein is a bit high for a block. It is really more like 1.5 blocks of protein. To be "precise" (which, as Sue mentioned is not necessary), a block of protein is 7 grams. If Sue's information is accurate, then the "range" should be more like anywhere between 4 and 10 grams of protein. That range seems a bit wide to me. Honestly, I don't count every little gram of everything that I eat, but when I get to around the 1/2 way mark between blocks, then I usually don't round up or down. I would just call it 1.5 blocks of protein.

    Also, as you will find as you get into this more, your personal range will likely be different than another's personal range. For instance, I have a smaller "range" when it comes to carb blocks.

    In any case, thanks for sharing more about a food that we don't commonly see here in the states!
    Cranberrycat

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    09 Aug 2008 10:45 AM


    you wrote :

    08/09/2008 6:38 AM Quote Reply Alert
    Hi,

    I was wondering if anyone knew about raw herring? How much would make 1 block? I guess it's similar to salmon and it's a protein.

    ...

    I have no idea how to 'turn' foods in to blocks if they're not on the food list :confused:

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