zone bars are supposed to put you in the zone correct? then why do the nutrition facts not add up. If there are 15 g or protein (about 2 blocks), shouldnt there be 2 blocks of everything else. There is of fat, but there is an extra 6-7 grams of carbs. This messes up the ratio of grams, therefore putting you out of the zone right?

You are not subtracting the dietary fiber. If you are referring to the Zone Labs bars they are 3-5 grams over on carbs depending on flavor.

One of the really nice things I've noticed about the Zone is you do not have to be exact on your measurements and calculating. When I feel like being precise or I am putting lots of different things together I measure more. This is why the hand eye method works well for many because you can estimate the amounts and still be in the zone.

but wouldnt the want to make the bars ideal for getting into the zone- why have the extra carb block? not to mention a little too much sat. fat

Zone bars are balanced. They don't contain an extra carb block. In fact they've been tested with diabetics and shown to control insulin. Dr Sears has a patent on his bars in regard to their ability to control insulin.

well then why do the nutritional facts not add up to the ideal zone amount?

You must be misundertanding something. They do add up.

The Zone P/C range is 0.6 to 1. As Matt posted, remember to use the insulin stimulating C for your Zone balance calculation (insulin stimulating C equals total C minus total fiber). The P/C for the Roasted Peanut bar is 0.71; the Choc Raspberry bar 0.68; the Lemon Yogurt bar 0.65; the Choc Fudge bar 0.68.

Each Zone block should contain a minimum of 3 grams fat. Zone bars, each 2 blocks, should contain a minimum of 6 grams fat. They contain from 6 to 8 grams fat dependig upon the flavor.

im talking about the zone perfect bars bc i cant find the other ones. Its about 15 protein and 25 carbs. That is right at the limit of the zone right?

Zone Perfect is a different company that has nothing to do with Dr Sears and Zone Labs.

lol really, they use the same odd color advertising that Sears uses on his books, whata scam

I don't know the details, but the Zone Perfect bars *used* to be at least supported by Dr. Sears, if not sanctioned. Something happened and Dr. Sears came out and specifically said they weren't any longer. They may have had a legal falling out or it may have been a move to push the sale of the Omega Zone bars, who knows.

The Zone Perfect bars used to be tastier, too. They changed their recipe on a couple of the flavors a couple years ago and some really nice tasting bars turned into crunchy, dry bricks.

YMMV.

they taste fine, all nutrition bars do pretty much, at least i think

Today's Zone PErfect bars are not teh same ones ZP used to sell. Dr Sears and Zone Perfect parted ways years ago (maybe about 10 yrs or so). After that, ZP changed the ingredients in their bars. If you look at the ZP web site, you'll see they are no longer even recommending a Zone balanced diet.

Actually, to add a different angle to this discussion, I do not think that the ZP website has anything to do with how the bars are formulated. Just because you do not find a Zone balance on the website does not mean that the bars are not zoned.

I am aware that the ZP bars were changed a bit with their formula. Not really sure what was changed, but I think they changed for the better. Used to be that when I ate them, I felt as if they just made me more hungry. Nowadays, I can eat them and actually get some satisfaction from them. Not as good as Omegazone bars, but really much better than in the past, and I feel as if I can depend on them if I am in a pinch for a snack and do not have any Omegazone bars with me.

Perhaps some may disagree with what I am going to say, but honestly, just because a product is not endorsed by Dr. Sears, does not make it a bad product!

Hi Everyone,

For those who were not familiar with the Zone and Zone Perfect (ZP) as it was about 10 yrs ago and prior to that, here's some historic info that may lend a better understanding in regard to the Zone Perfect topic. The ZP website used to present, and be completely about, the Zone Diet, exactly as portrayed in the Zone books by Barry Sears. It was a website much like this one, with a very active forum made up of many of the same members that post on this forum (some of us from back then still post here today). This is no longer the case, and the ZP site has changed so much that the diet now advocated by them is not even a Zone balanced one.

In regard to ZP bars, the ZP bars sold 9-10 yrs ago, or more, were bars designed by Barry Sears (someone please correct me if I am mistaken about this). If anyone here remembers them, I'm referring to the flatter looking, and more chewy, almond, chocolate, and peanut bars that ZP used to sell in the 1990's, the ones that more resembled the type of bars that Zone Labs sells today. Around the year 2000 (give or take), which, as I recall, was around the time that ZP and Barry Sears went their separate ways, ZP came out with a new recipe for its' peanut bar (highly advertised and touted as their "new" improved recipe). This new bar was one of the first of many changes to ZP. This is the ingredient change I was referring to in my previous post in this thread. This is also the point at which many zoners, who had depended upon ZP bars for snacks and meals that kept them in the Zone, found they were no longer able to stay in the Zone when eating ZP bars. Many long time zoners haven't viewed the changes made to ZP bars over the last 10 years as improvements, when it comes to their use with the Zone Diet.

Sue, perhaps you are not aware that they have changed their formulation again, since that time?

A year or so back, they had reformulated the bars again. They look and taste the same, but whatever it was that they changed, they do seem to work better for hunger control, than in the past (after they went to the crunchy peanut butter bar). Now, I would equate them to the same level of hunger control that I remember getting from the Hershey SmartZone bars (which are apparently no longer available).

My goodness. Has it really been that long? Now I feel old. :)

I loved those flatter, moister, chewier bars. Back then there was also a Balance bar available that was similar (in chocolate and white yogurt, I believe). Nowadays, it seems all the store shelf bars are packed with crispy nodules. I suppose the thinking is it expands in your stomach, helping to curb hunger. But the damn thinks also expand in your throat and stick to your teeth. I hate them (in case that wasn't obvious).

Guess I'll just order the Zone bars from the site. I prefer being able to buy something off the shelf, but whaddya going to do?

Marty

Marty,

Yeah, I really liked them too, especially those almond ones. I was surprised by how long it's been, too, once I thought about it. Glad to hear there's at least one other person who knows what I'm talking about!

Better yet, how about eating some real food?

Hi Everyone,

Here's some more related info, Barry Sears' remarks about some of the functional foods he's developed:

The address for this article: http://www.drsears.com/ArticlePrevi...fault.aspx

"Vision & mission

Vision & mission By Dr. Barry Sears

For the past twenty years I have held strong and fast to my vision and mission—understanding the biochemical basis of disease and the development of functional foods to reduce disease risk. Imitators who have attempted to copy my products have failed miserably and I am constantly appalled by the poor quality of products in the mass market that claim to be based on my Zone technology. After several years of testing, I am proud to announce that the new OmegaZone Meal Replacement Bars are now available. OmegaZone’s patented Controlled Release Technology is my newest science breakthrough that helps you stabilize insulin levels and keeps you in the Zone for up to six hours. The OmegaZone Meal Replacement Bar represents a significant technological achievement and sets a standard of excellence for quality and performance of which I am exceptionally proud. No other nutrition bar compares or even comes close, and these are the only food products based on my Zone technology that I recommend and endorse. My name on the label is your personal guarantee of the best that nutrition science can deliver. I believe the patented OmegaZone Meal Replacement Bars in combination with my pharmaceutical grade OmegaRx fish oils creates a powerful synergistic approach for optimal health and longevity that ushers in a new era of evidence based wellness."

Sue, I think you must be on a mission to discredit anything that I say! LOL!

I wonder what Barry would say if we asked him directly, "which is better, a meal made up of a zone bar or shake, or a meal made up with whole, unprocessed food (favorable ingredients, of course)?

ZP also came out with some new flavors receintly. Not those nasty fruitified things. They have DARK Chocolate bars now. I had to try them because dark chocolate is a weakness of mine. They were disappointing at best in my eyes. I've used the ZP bars off & on during the past year. When ever I have hit a plateau they would be the first to go from my diet. Once removed I was usually no longer on a plateau. Amazing how that works.

I have yet to try the Zone Labs bars so I can't comment on them.

The latest version of ZP are less balanced also. Only 12 grams of P in a whole bar. The others I've tried had 14 grams.

My latest bars have been the SB snack size. The mint & rasberry are the only ones I'll use.

Could some one help me understand how to break the follow bar down?

roasted peanut and sweet and salty nut crunch?

thanks Pat

Hi Pat!

If you're referring to those flavors of the Dr Sears Zone bars sold by Zone Labs, each bar contains 2 fully balanced blocks (2P, 2C and 2F).

I agree completely, real food is about 5 ingredients, and you can pronounce everything!<img src='desktopmodules/ntforums/images/emoticons/tongue.gif' height='20' width='20' border='0' title='Tongue' align='absmiddle'>

Yep! I think it is definitely a bonus if you can eat foods that you can pronounce! Definitely a sign of a healthy diet.