Hi All,

I am new to the Zone and have been doing Crossfit for about two months. I am looking for people that have might have both Crossfit and the Zone in common so I can buddy up and stay on track. Anyone out there please post! (I am in Southern California but location doesn't really matter)

Andrea, I'm also in SoCal, starting Zone, have done Crossfit (Eric's) and would love to buddy up to help with my personal accountability.

Hi Joan and Andrea,
I have been CrossFitting for about 1 year and have a CrossFit affiliate in Mass. We have a group from our studio that have started the zone so we are here too if I can help!
Cindy
www.cynergycrossfit.com

Hello!!! My husband and I started CrossFit about this time last year. We were in it for a while, and then started to do outdoor activities when spring rolled around. We started CrossFit again about a month ago, and are trying to get back up to speed. We do our workouts in our basements and enjoy working out together. We both started the Zone 4 days ago, and are doing quite well with it so far. I am anxious to combine the two and see the results!!!!! Having a gal pal sure would keep me on track. So, let me know and we can help eachother!!!!!
Deb

Oh my gosh, Cindy, somehow I missed your reply! Thank you for responding. I would LOVE to communicate with you and your zone group. I briefly checked out your website (will go back again when I've more time) and am impressed with the information. I didn't see anything related to Zone meals; did I miss it? Thanks for your response and please, let's stay in touch!!
Joan

Hi Deb! Happy New Year and thank you for responding to my post. I have heard that Crossfit participants realize greater results when they are strict with zone diets. I'm just struggling with coming up with good ACCURATELY balanced zone meals.

I'd love to stay in touch to support each other in our journeys and would appreciate menu sharing.

Good luck to you and your husband!

Thank you!

Andrea,

I've been doing crossfit and zone dieting for a month now. I'm in Nebraska and working out with the Crossfit affiliate here. I'm LOVING it! I'd be more than happy to go back and forth about goals, setbacks, accomplishments anytime!

Good luck with both Crossfit and the Zone!


Jenni

Hi Ladies! Wow...I am so not technologically savy! I just now figured out how to use this forum! All this time I thought no one replied to my post! Jeesh! Are you all still in the zone and doing CrossFit?

I have been doing the zone for 3 weeks and cross fit for about 6 months. I have lost about 10 lbs in 3 weeks. It really works well together. I go to the gym 3-5 times a week, depending on what's going on. I also do cooking demos in the evening after my full time job.

Wow! Sounds like you're getting great results! Right now I'm struggling with sticking to the diet. I don't have a problem during the day, it's just at night I always seem to slip. Have you had this issue and if so, any advice?

Hi Andrea,
Im an SF crossfitter and just starting the Zone...wanna be buddies?

K

hi i'm vonda dont seem to be loosing on the zone yet but would love to know about cross fit iam a hard core work out person but getting bored with my routine. can someone explain it to me and if this might help get by body back into burning

hi i'm vonda dont seem to be loosing on the zone yet but would love to know about cross fit iam a hard core work out person but getting bored with my routine. can someone explain it to me and if this might help get by body back into burning

Hi vonda!

You'll find tons of info about it with an internet search, and also with a search of this website.

Hi sue. i started this diet again. and you seem to be the most informned
i try to do the diet t the tee. i slip here and there. but no great results. maybe you could shed some light. i work at 1:30am so my first meal is around 3:30. and i go from there sometimes it is 21/2 hours i eat a zone snack then around 9 i eat a snack and at 11:30 i eat lunch and i eat dinner at 3:00 and go to bed at 5. i work out 1 hour of pilates 6 days and i run or do a bootcamp type work out 4-5 days i know this sounds insane. but i love it. i did chew alot of gum. ok dont be shocked but around 2 pack a day. it was sugar free. can you see any problem here. by the way i love reading your ideas and advice you should work for there company. also i think you said you eat more protien blocks then carbs. how come?

Hi vonda! I'll be happy to help! The info you’ve given here so far is very helpful, but it's insufficient for me to be able to make suggestions. If you'd like to also post your LBM and body fat % (you can use the body fat and block calculator link at the right), as well as the specifics of your meals, I can take a look and make suggestions (list the specific foods in each meal and amounts of those foods, for a one entire day's worth of your typical meals; keeping an actual food diary for a day and posting it here would be great!).

I drop one carb block from meals per the Zone recommendations for hunger adjustments. If I don't drop the C block, I become hungry and don't feel well. If you're hungry and feeling unfocused 4 hours or less after a Zone balanced meal you're supposed to drop 1 C block from each meal. If you're hungry 4 hours afte a Zoen meal and feel focused with good energy levels, you're supposed to add 1 C block to each meal. Focused means clear thinking and other than being hungry you're feeling good. Unfocused means one or more of any of the typical low blood sugar symptoms such as less than optimal ability to concentrate, feeling weak, shaky, spacey, faint, nausea, sleepy, jittery, irritable, etc. The goal is not to be hungry. Lack of hunger when eatign Zeon balanced meals and snacks usually shows a person is successfully maintaining their insulin at a lower level.

I do work for Zone Labs (have been for the past couple of years), but not in the forums. I participate here for fun, just as the rest of the forum members, to share my experiences and help others if I can.

thanks for responding. ok a typical day of vonda's eating. today i did not chew any gum. so i started with oatmeal 1/2 dry = 3blocks c and 20 g of protien powder whey. 3 block of p and i use flax seed for my fat i cant eat alot of nuts. 2 tbl = 4 gr of fat i had 1 cp of coffee with 1 tbl spoon of 1/2 and 1/2= 1 block of fat. snack 1/2 apple and 1 soy patty there is fat in them so i dont add fat and again the same snack lunch i had 1 and 1/2 banace bars and i did 1 hour of pilates in the am and i did my boot camp for 1 /1/2 hrs after work i am not sure of my body fat i am 150 at 5'2 i know when i put in measurements it said 11 blocks each day. i am curious to find out if it was the gum. so if you dont see any thing wrong with this i will let you know what happens after a week of kicking the gum habit is there such a class for this like na or aa. maybe there i ga ha ha. thanks again sue

thanks for responding. ok a typical day of vonda's eating. today i did not chew any gum. so i started with oatmeal 1/2 dry = 3blocks c and 20 g of protien powder whey. 3 block of p and i use flax seed for my fat i cant eat alot of nuts. 2 tbl = 4 gr of fat i had 1 cp of coffee with 1 tbl spoon of 1/2 and 1/2= 1 block of fat. snack 1/2 apple and 1 soy patty there is fat in them so i dont add fat and again the same snack lunch i had 1 and 1/2 balance bars and i did 1 hour of pilates in the am and i did my boot camp for 1 /1/2 hrs after work i am not sure of my body fat i am 150 at 5'2 i know when i put in measurements it said 11 blocks each day. i am curious to find out if it was the gum. so if you dont see any thing wrong with this i will let you know what happens after a week of kicking the gum habit is there such a class for this like na or aa. maybe there i ga ha ha. thanks again sue p.s have you heard of the formula 40-30-30 diet? and if so what is the diffrence?

vonda, some observations and comments:

I don't think the gum is holding you back as much as your meals are.

1 1/2 ounces (about 3 tablespoons) of dry steel cut oats are 3 favorable carb blocks. If that's are rolled oats you ate, it's unfavorable carb which will prevent you from being in the Zone.

Coffee works against begin able to keep insulin levels in the Zone.

Flax seed is not a good choice for your Zone fat blocks because it is ton primarily a monounsaturated fat. If you choose to add the seed to you breakfast rather than the extracted oil itself, don’t count it toward you Zone fat blocks. BTW, Barry Sears recommends keeping the use of flax oil to a tablespoon or less daily. You’d be fat better off taking a Zone Labs fish oil.

Without knowing the actual amounts of P, C and F in your soy patty, I can’t comment on the snack.

The bars you ate are not Zone friendly. They take most people out of the Zone.

Due to these meals alone, regardless of what you ate the rest if the day, gum or no gum, it’s not likely that you’re in the Zone, which is the reason you’re not seeing results.

Without knowing your LBM, I can’t comment on the appropriateness of 11 blocks for you. The description of you workouts in both posts in this thread suggests that you need more than 11 blocks daily. You 1 ½ hour boot camp session is likely to be pushing up your cortisol levels too much. Eat a Zone balanced snack half way through (per Barry Sears, cortisol levels begin to rise too much after you reach 45 min into your exercise.

Yes, I’ve heard of that plan. This Zone is different. I’d suggest reading the book TOXIC FAT (Dr. Sear’s newest Zone book) to learn more about what you’re trying to do in the Zone, and the best way(s) to go about it. The Zone is not about simply eating 40/30/30.

Good luck!

Personally, I don't think one cup of coffee is going to be the big culprit here.

Vonda, how is your appetite? Are you hungry within 4 hours of your last meal? If so, do you have normal energy, or are you mentally foggy?

sue thanks so much. i thought 1/3 cup oatmeal was one block so i ate a whole cup with flax which i thought was good fat. i do have both but will now try the fish oil yumo... i will try to create my zone meals from fruit veggi's and protien. and the soy patti by morning star are 10 g prot. 3 carbs and 3 fat per patty. i just got my zone bars and powder in the mail today. how about kashi frozen meals most of them are perfect ratios. i will for 2 weeks do the fruit and veggi no grain and see if thats the kicker for me. i do work out alot to eliminate stress my job is high stress so working out to the extreme is my release but if i am working out to much maybe i need to tone it done. again thanks i dont wont to give upi i like the food...

sue thanks so much. i thought 1/3 cup oatmeal was one block so i ate a whole cup with flax which i thought was good fat. i do have both but will now try the fish oil yumo... i will try to create my zone meals from fruit veggi's and protien. and the soy patti by morning star are 10 g prot. 3 carbs and 3 fat per patty. i just got my zone bars and powder in the mail today. how about kashi frozen meals most of them are perfect ratios. i will for 2 weeks do the fruit and veggi no grain and see if thats the kicker for me. i do work out alot to eliminate stress my job is high stress so working out to the extreme is my release but if i am working out to much maybe i need to tone it done. again thanks i dont wont to give upi i like the food...

You're welcome! Re the kashi meals, it'll depend on their ingredients. Remember that making a Zone friendly meal depends that works depends on more than simply making the P, and C and F add up on paper. Consider yoga for stress release. I love it as an addition to my aerobic training and training sessions.

i have another question for you. does fish oil add to your fat total the pill form? and so far today i stuck with zone everything. i like those bars. they get me to 3 hours. and i love oatmeal. in my book it said 1/3 cup cooked is one block and it is slow cooking very thick grain. so 3 1/3 cp is 3 blocks?? i got the recp off this web site for 7 day meal planner. and i love yoga i love pilates. and this weekend i am going to venture out and try bikrams it is 100 + in the room but hey got to try it. i am also going to try crossfit so i know the intense work out may require more blocks. any thoughts on that?

i have another question for you. does fish oil add to your fat total the pill form? and so far today i stuck with zone everything. i like those bars. they get me to 3 hours. and i love oatmeal. in my book it said 1/3 cup cooked is one block and it is slow cooking very thick grain. so 3 1/3 cp is 3 blocks?? i got the recp off this web site for 7 day meal planner. and i love yoga i love pilates. and this weekend i am going to venture out and try bikrams it is 100 + in the room but hey got to try it. i am also going to try crossfit so i know the intense work out may require more blocks. any thoughts on that?

No, don't count the fish oil toward your fat blocks for meals. Try 1 1/2 bar when you need a quick 3 block Zone meal and have no time. Works great! Yes, 1 cup of cooked steel cut oatmeal is 3 carb blocks (that's 3 x 1/3 cup). Oh cool power yoga! It requires a lot of strength and stamina. It's a more male oriented kind of yoga based on warrior positions, many standing positions requiring a lot of strength. Whether it increases your block amount depends on your current LBM and activity level and all of your activities considered together. If you want to post your current workouts (type and time spent on each per week) I'll be happy to suggest the appropriate activity level to use for your block calculation.

my bmi is 32 i am 5'2 or so 150 i am med to lg framed i am not a fast loser i had my vitals i have a low heart rate due to the 1+ hours of cardio i do i run ect. rate is 70/110 to 120 my typical day is 1 hour of pilates then i work at home depot. so a lot of walking 8 hours. i do 1 1/2 hours
of mixed cardio or running 3-5 miles 4-5 days a week. here is some news id like to share. i did atkins for many years and lost alot of wight but as you know that diet is not one can do forever. i am hungry alot on this diet. or maybe just bored and have to deal with that. you shed some light on a few things i wasnt eating right portions so for the past few days i seem to be less hungry. i love those bars you are right they are not the same. i would be starving after i ate the store bought ones.

my bmi is 32 i am 5'2 or so 150 i am med to lg framed i am not a fast loser i had my vitals i have a low heart rate due to the 1+ hours of cardio i do i run ect. rate is 70/110 to 120 my typical day is 1 hour of pilates then i work at home depot. so a lot of walking 8 hours. i do 1 1/2 hours
of mixed cardio or running 3-5 miles 4-5 days a week. here is some news id like to share. i did atkins for many years and lost alot of wight but as you know that diet is not one can do forever. i am hungry alot on this diet. or maybe just bored and have to deal with that. you shed some light on a few things i wasnt eating right portions so for the past few days i seem to be less hungry. i love those bars you are right they are not the same. i would be starving after i ate the store bought ones.

Hi vonda,

Without your LBM I can't suggest a block amount. To find your accurate block recommendation, put your stats into the Zone Block & Body Fat Calculator (link at right) and choose the "Active" level. Eating a better balance and tweaking according to Zone recommendations for hunger, if needed, should eliminate your hunger. Good luck!

for the risk of sounding stupid what is LBM. i did put it in the calculator. and low and behold the only thing that changes it is an extreme athlete. and i dont consider my self that. i have been using diffrent food more to what the book says and i do notice a change in hunger. i pretty much train wrecked sun at the cheese cake factory although i had the lettuce wraps not to bad alot of sugar in the 3 sauces. but cant resist the low carb cheese cake with whip cream and nuts. i cant eat sugar having low blood sugar, even the sauces put me to sleep like a baby. but back on track now. do you have any quick dinner ideas. no fruit at night it keeps me up and when you have to sleep around 5 it makes for a ong hard day.
have a great day sue. p.s baby is so cute

for the risk of sounding stupid what is LBM. i did put it in the calculator. and low and behold the only thing that changes it is an extreme athlete. and i dont consider my self that. i have been using diffrent food more to what the book says and i do notice a change in hunger. i pretty much train wrecked sun at the cheese cake factory although i had the lettuce wraps not to bad alot of sugar in the 3 sauces. but cant resist the low carb cheese cake with whip cream and nuts. i cant eat sugar having low blood sugar, even the sauces put me to sleep like a baby. but back on track now. do you have any quick dinner ideas. no fruit at night it keeps me up and when you have to sleep around 5 it makes for a ong hard day.
have a great day sue. p.s baby is so cute

Hi vonda,

Thanks. He's my grandson. :-)

LBM = Lean Body Mass. It is one of the items on your calculator result. Use the calculator to determine your blocks. The activity level is one of the items you enter along with your stats. You should choose "Active" when you enter your stats.

You can see some of my dinner ideas in my photobucket album(link in my signature below) and also find some of my recipes here:

http://www.zonediet.com/Community/F...fault.aspx

Good luck!

Sue...I have a question, I was reading through here...I too thought that 1/3 cup steel oats (cooked) was only 1 block of carb??? That's how it's listed on the list of food items. Am I incorrect?
Thanks!

Hi Anna, maybe you misread my post (10-1-09, 5:16 pm). I stated that 1 cup is 3 C blocks, which is correct.