Thank you in advance for helping me.

Just need someone to check behind me to see if I am calculating products in the store correctly.

I have found these pita's made by Joseph's. Here is the label
Details:
Nutrition Facts
Serving Size:
1 Pita (37g/1.33oz)

Amount Per Serving
Total Calories 60 Calories From Fat 20

Total Fat 2g
Saturated Fat 0 g /Trans Fat 0 g /Cholesterol 0 mg
Sodium 300 mg 13%

Total Carbohydrates 8g
Dietary Fiber 4 g

Protein 6 g

So if I am calculating this correctly, there is about:
1 block of protien,
1/2 blcok of carb's
1 block of fat

Correct??? and if this is correct - how do you cont this in a meal - ?? 1 block towards protien, 1 block towards fat and 1/2 block toward carbs?

or

would you just count this towards your carb intake and balance the rest w additional carbs?

This product seems like it would be a great addition to the zone meals? What is your opinion?

HI;
My wife and I used to eat those, occasionally, before we went almost completely grainless.
A couple of things:
1.) I do not recall if the Protein source is Soy or not.
If it is NOT Soy - the Protein is really nearly un-useable and therefore not counted.
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2.) The fat is yes nearly 1 block at 2 grams. Though a little additional fat is OK, I would err on adding some fat to make it at least 3 grams of fat.
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3.) The carbs, though 1/2 block are all UNFavorable. So make the rest of the Carbs in the meal all highly favorable.

Thank you John.

? - Why are the carbs UNfavorable in that product.

and if that is the case - these are pretty much not worth eating. Right? I am getting the picture that the carbs in breads even tough 100% whole wheat - still wreck havic on insulin - yes?

While we are chatting - ? about salad. Let's say I have a salad - ~ 2cups romaine, 1 red sweet pepper, hand full fo chopped raw cabbage, and probably 1 slice of onion - how many carb blocks would this be?

Next ? - what about getting enough fiber in the plan- what is your take on adding psyillum to meals to increase the fiber in ones diet.

Thank you for your help and patience.
Kim

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Posted By Kim on 14 Aug 2012 10:48 AM
Thank you John.
? - Why are the carbs UNfavorable in that product.
and if that is the case - these are pretty much not worth eating. Right? I am getting the picture that the carbs in breads even tough 100% whole wheat - still wreck havic on insulin - yes?

While we are chatting - ? about salad. Let's say I have a salad - ~ 2cups romaine, 1 red sweet pepper, hand full fo chopped raw cabbage, and probably 1 slice of onion - how many carb blocks would this be?

Next ? - what about getting enough fiber in the plan- what is your take on adding psyillum to meals to increase the fiber in ones diet.

Thank you for your help and patience.
Kim
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Most all bread/grains are unfavorable. Dr. Sears looked at the Glycemic Index, and more importantly, the Glycemic Load of various Carbohydrates. All carbohydrates have a stimulation effect. The body uses a hormone called insulin to control the amount of Blood Sugar in the blood. Our blood sugar should be between 80 and 100 (ng/ml or something). Our magnificently created bodies work to keep our blood sugar at those ideal levels. Anything less and Glycogen (another hormone) is released to increase blood sugar - by releasing fat stores, normally. But nost folks have the opposite problem of eating too much Insulin or the wrong types. If you eat too many carbohydrates or carbohydrates that break down very quickly into Glucose (all carbs are eventually converted to Glucose) then there is too much blood sugar. Too much blood sugar results in a huge spike in insulin being released to reduce the blood sugar levels. Like an up and down roller coaster.
Dr. Sears plan is to maintain blood sugar control. So foods that have a higher Glycemic Load, break down slower, and do not spike insulin. Therefore you maintain a better blood sugar stabilization without excessive insulin (or Glycogen) spikes. Breads/most grains are simpler carbohydrates and break down faster, including Whole Wheat. (Plus there's the addeddetriment in whaet of Gluten, an anti-nutrient.)
So, they are labeled by Dr. Sears as unvfavorable. All explained in his books. If you want a beter understanding, yet kept in simple terms, "Toxic fat" is the best (and latest) book od his - one to get (or borrow from the Library).
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Depending on the amount and variety of veggies in a salad, a salad can range from basically 0 blocks of Carbs to whatever.
Your salad as described is basically zero blocks, but all favorable carbs and worth eating.
For example, my wife and i, in the summer, often put together a HUGE Salad - when local organic veggies are plentiful.
Lettuce (2 cups), Shredded cabbage (1 cup), 1 small or 1/2 large tomato, 1/4 large or 1/2 small cucumber, 1/2 halipeno (sic) pepper, some Kale, maybe some mushrooms, a few sliced or shredded baby carrots, 1/2 green, red, or yellow pepper, a few sugar peas, a radish, etc. EACH. We count this at about only 1 block each of us. For a much smaller salad, we do not count it at all.
Why - for example 10 cups lettuce make 1 block serving, basically negligible in salads at no where near 10 cups.
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If you eat a lot of vegetables and some favorable fruits (berries, apples), then you will probably get enough fiber.
On those days where you might have eaten more dense carbohydrates, than occasionally supplementing is OK.
I would rather get what ever fiber mostly from food. Though, when the few times I travel for work, I bring Glucomanan tablets with me.
And some (NOTE UNFAVORABLE Fat warning) Chia seeds for the hotel room.
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Hope this helps.

TYPO in previous post:
"eating too much Insulin" should be "eating too many carbohydrates" ...

NOTE: If you want to have a St. Joseph's Pita now and then, go ahead and enjoy!
There is nothing wrong with having some unfavorable carbs, now and then.
On a continuing basis, they should be no more than 25% of your total carbs.
And the rest should be favorable.
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We stopped getting them, because my wife was having trouble,
even in the Zone, with keeping her weight down where she wanted it.
Even at 25% and less, so I suggested she try the additional restriction of going grain-less.
That helped her immensely. So, though I enjoyed a good pita or tortilla now and then like the St. Joseph's,
(And Ezekiel bread) we do not buy any so she is not tempted.

Agree with John's comments.

Commenting on the fiber, I also feel that if you eat enough veggies and fruit blocks throughout the day, that you will be getting adequate fiber. I used to keep track of this in my food diary, and there was not a day that dropped below below what is recommended.

John - WOW - thank you. You have certainily helped me out.

? - on a personal note - may I ask - did you or have you been able to lose weight w this program? Specifically - a few pounds.

I am in my mid 50's and would like to drop about 10 pounds. The calculator indicates 33% fat, 45 lbs is fat / 90 is muscle.

I am trying to find a plan that is one i can use for the rest of my life - and one that is easy to use. This plan seems to be most"normal". Eating real foods. I have not incorporated the fish oil - but will be adding this just as soon as possible and seems to be the key for inflammation.

I am considering the zone bars - it looks like 1 bar = 2 blocks fat, 2 blocks protein, 2 blocks carbs - correct? So if my snacks call for 1 block of each - i would eat 1/2 a bar. yes?

Again thank you!

Trying really hard - Kim

I went from 225 pounds down to my current and stable 162 pounds.
I started in Spring 2004 with strict zone and Fish oil at 225 pounds.
By Fall 2004, I was at around 195 pounds, I think.
Plateaued at 185 +/- for a while, got slack in following Zone.
Redoubled my effort, measuring and weighing, again.
And got down to 180's. Plateaued for a while.
Then concentrated again and went down to 172 - 174 pounds.
Where I stayed satisfied for a number of years.
Then, i started exercising just about 2 years ago, and that in combination with the Zone,
I was able to lose the last 10 lbs I wanted to lose.
Now I stay consistently between 161.8 and 162.8 pounds.
Ans work-out heavy lifting about once per week,
and sometimes giving myself a week off, but going no more than 2 weeks without heavy lifting.
But keep moving through out the week with (all outdoor) kayaking, walking, bicycling, hiking, etc.
I am not an exercise fanatic, and do not really like it.
But once I force myself go to the gym - esp in the hot summers, I am ok and enjoy the experience while there,
and push myself according to my self-made, evolving routine.

P.S. I am a very healthy 55.
My wife had a bit more trouble; but, then,
she did not follow the Zone nor eating pattern as strictly
(nor as well) as I did.
Then at a certain point, she finally decided to follow balancing P, F, C better,
and went nearly grain-less at my suggestion,
and was finally able not only to go lower than she was able to before, but, also better maintain.
Which she had trouble, not only because of the few grains but because of her lack of adhering as close to the Zone.
Of course, at least initially, women do have a harder time than men to some degree in losing weight.