Hi,

I read just now that high-oleic safflower oil is very low in omega-6s and

Larry takes those malcsodmresp nuts to stop his weight loss, because they don't have any omega-6s.

I did buy those nuts for myself, but they're REALLY expensive. And I just spent $950 on OmegaRx and SeaHealth Plus, so I'm in a certain amount of debt as a result, but it's for my health, and I can't work until I get my health under control, so ...

My question is ... is safflower oil much closer to those malcolcomul nuts? Because I"m thinking, I can use safflower oil as a cheaper way to stop my weight loss when the time comes. I'm still losing weight despite eating too much fat.

I never had this problem of needing extra fat to stop my weight loss before by the way ... not before I took out wheat, soy, dairy, and caffeine (and artificial sweeteners) out of my diet ... LOL

You do not have to Use Macodamia nuts to stop weight loss.
Just add some additional fat such as Olive Oil or Almonds.
He chose Macadamia Nuts because he adds so much extra fat,
he felt the expense worth it for him.
And yes, they are expensive.
I am on maintenance, and I do not use Macadamia,
and my last AA/EPA blood test was very close to 1.0,
and in range between ideal 1.0 to 1.5.
As well as my Omega-3:Omega-6 ratio.

Use the best fats on the Zone Food Block Guide list rather than safflower oil. Also, 1.5 to 3 is the ideal range of AA/EPA.

Yes, my typo and doing my numbers from memory - lol.
Thanks for correcting Sue,
AA/EPA should be 1.5 to 3.0.

Hi Sarah - I googled high-oleic safflower oil and found an article that said olive oil has lower omega 6, so you're better off staying with that. I eat macadamia nuts because they are much lower in omega 6 than olive oil and I have to eat extra fat to keep my weight up. I try to make all of my extra fat macadamia.

Thanks to all of you for all of your input ... I'll stick to oo then. I did buy two bottles of macadamia but found I eat them up way too quickly, I don't measure them out like I should. I literally can't. Everything that is easy to eat--I just eat right up. LOL.

Ok, after a little thought, and based on Larry's choice of eating macadamia for extra fat to avoid omega-6s:

Is there any list that indicates in decreasing order the favourable oils/fats, based on their Omega-6s?

so ... e.g.,

1. macadamia nuts and oil
2. olive oil (does the type of olive oil matters when it comes to omega-6s, too?
3. Almond butter???
4. Peanut butter??

Alexy

Sarah, you could google it, and you'll find it's close to or the same as the order you've listed here.

Hi Sarah - If you follow Dr. Sears on how to count macadamia nuts, it's real easy. If your package contains whole nuts, each one is a fat block (1.5g of fat). I agree with Sue that your list is correct. I've looked them all up before on nutritiondata.com and you've got them in the right order.

Hi Sue, thanks ...

Hi Larry, the problem with me isn't my ability to count the fat grams, hahaha. Although thanks for the reminder as to how many fat grams each whole nut contains. I do need to remember that.

The problem with me is I gorge very easily on all kinds of things ... I tried out a recipe from these forums that was absolutely delicious, and I ate the whole thing up, which means I ate a cup of peanut butter and almond butter in 24 hours!!!!

Very yummy, that recipe---but I'm trying to find a way where I can put together just one or two raw cookies (I LOVED the way it tasted BEFORE it was baked in the oven) and eat it up! So I bought some egg white powder (not the same as egg protein powder) today so I can mix some raw and see if I like it this way.

Because I was licking the batter up a LOT and it contains raw egg whites--from the regular store, not from one of those organic places--and I actually liked the batter a lot better than the cookies themselves. LOL ...

I can't remember the name of the recipe right now, but it required one cup of peanut butter and almond butter ...

I go to the local store and I "steal" two or three M & Ms from the bulk area, because if I buy a chocolate bar, it's gone in a flash!!!!!

Natty

From http://www.marksdailyapple.com/nuts...z24ybpvwaD

Marksdailyapple.com

He says that ...

Omega-6 Content Various Nuts (1/4 cup)

Walnuts – 9.5 g

Almonds – 4.36 g

Cashews – 2.6 g

Macadamias – 0.5 g

Brazil nuts – 7.2 g

Hazelnuts – 2.7 g

Pistachio – 4.1 g

Pine nuts – 11.6 g

Pecans – 5.8 g




CASHEWS are lower in omega-6s than Almonds? Ditto hazelnuts? I didn't know that .... gotta check out their prices and see if I can afford them better than Macadamias ...

I don't know if this is accurate though ... but I don't have the energy to research more, LOL.

No mention of coconut flakes, coconut oils, etc ... I'd like to know where those things are placed ... I'm eating coconut flakes sweetened with a little fructose and salt right now! Yummy!

comments, thoughts, anyone?

Hi Sarah - 1 tsp of coconut oil has 81mg of Omega 6. 1 tsp of olive oil has 439 mg.

But Dr Sears views coconut oil as an unfavorable fat because of all the saturated fat in it. There is a fairly recent thread that talks about the problems coconut oil causes.

The list of Omega 6 in 1/4 cup of the various nuts looks about right. Cashews are favorable (I forgot about those. I'll have to start eating some). Hazelnuts are not listed on the food block guide.

Ok ... so I'll look for cashew OIL, because, I bought a few cashews and ate them up right away! LOL ...

Why not re: hazelnuts?

Ok, I can eat coconut flakes in moderation, that shouldn't hurt ..

thanks for confirming that the list I took off from the other website looks about right ... good news about cashews too! I can OD on cashews and be ok!!! LOL ...

You're probably going to find that cashew oil Is quite pricy, if you can even find a bottle. Your best bet to get the extra fat economically will probably be to find a generic label refined olive oil. Although it doesn't have the additional benefits found in extra virgin ( lost in refining), nonetheless it's a very good source of mononunsaturated fat, which, bottom line, is all you're really looking for.

Be careful about "OD"-ing on any fats. There's such a thing as too much of a good thing. Too many calories will send you out of the Zone.

So how much is too much?

Ok so I guess stick with oo and keep it limited ...

I do need something to munch on ... something with an intense taste ... anyway ...

Sarah, re how much dietary monounsaturated fat is too much, if you're eating balanced Zone balanced meals at your appropriate protein requirement daily and your body fat % goes below 22% then double or triple your added fat blocks at meals to prevent further loss of stored body fat. After you've increased monounsaturated fat to prevent further body fat loss, if you begin to gain body fat cut back to your usual balance of dietary monounsaturated fat in meals. Keep adjusting monounsaturated fat as needed to stay at the ideal body fat %.

Ok ... so once I get to 22%, I can then munch away, is what you're saying!! :-) :-) :-)

thanks, Sue, for helping me to stay more economical ...

i'm not at 22% yet but the idea of being able to munch more nuts without any harm is very appealing to me!!!

alexy

That's not quite what I'm saying. I'll try again. If you go below 22% body fat, add a little more monounsaturated fat to every meal, such as 1 teaspoon olive oil or 3 macadamia nuts to prevent losing more stored body fat. If you still continue to lose, even with the extra dietary fat, then add a little more monounsaturated fat to meals. Once you are maintaining in this manner, with the extra monounsaturated fat at meals, if your body fat% begins to increase then cut back a little bit on the extra monounsaturated fat. You can continue to control your body fat % indefinitely, keeping it around 22%, by adjusting the amount of monounsaturated fat in your meals .

Ok. ... I gotcha this time around. Guess I have to look around for a substitute for munching on nuts etc ... :-(

I think it's emotional eating. I also just found out I have sleep apnea, but it's mild, nothing to worry about, e.g., not life-threatening. Still, I was dismayed, and it's not being overweight that's causing the sleep apnea, too, because I'm 135 lbs ... probably 28% fat (I have thicker bones).

And, thanks for clarifying, by the way ... I appreciate your significant contributions to the forums.