hi all!

I finally am back ... I had trouble logging back in.

Anyway. I bought some white egg powder (NOT egg protein powder, which is a completely different thing) at a health store.

The little package was $6 I think, for 80 grams of protein from egg whites only, and 8 grams of carbs that came from brewer's yeast.

So it boils down to 20 grams of protein and one gram of carb for one meal for me, a female.

I bought it because I can't have dairy products apparently, and eggs are NOT a dairy product (something I only learnt recently!).

Anyway. Today I put in a bit over 1/4 cup of DRY white egg powder into a bowl. I put in one tsp of fructose (will reduce that next time). I put in one tablespoon of olive oil (the extra-light-tasting kind, not the virgin kind, which would ruin the taste ...). I also put in 2 tablespoon of high-quality cocoa.

I couldn't mix the whole thing together with a spoon, the oil wasn't enough to moist all of the powder, BUT, I could squeeze and massage it into a bar.

I tried it, plain, as it is. I REALLY liked the taste a lot actually. There's no artificial taste there. It's sorta like a creamy milk chocolate, I guess. I actually ENJOY eating it, and it's not messy either.

This means I have another portable source of protein that has NO omega-6s (I use a lot of hemp protein powder, which is fine but the omega-6s adds up ...) and I just eat veggies or fruit along with it. Very pure and Zone.

I don't know how much cheaper or how much more expensive white egg powder is over egg protein powder, which is a completely different thing. If anyone knows, I'd love to hear.

How white egg powder compares with actual eggs: 12 eggs = $3 or a bit more for large ones, and it makes 2 meals of protein for me. So that's $1.50 / meal. This package is $6 for 4 meals' worth of protein. That makes it $3 for 2 meals, or $1.50 / meal. So the price is ok for protein.

But I really enjoyed the taste of white egg powder when mixed with fructose and cocoa.

I'm gonna experiment with this some more, but if one of you wanna try it out ... FYI. :-)

If you do try it out, I'd love to hear about it.

Sarah

I will admit, it doesn't make a FIRM bar, but, it's completely portable and eatable when on the run.

Sarah

Interesting, thanks for sharing!

I don't use egg white protein powder, but have used it in the past. The cost is similar to other quality protein powders out there. I don't know how it would work in this recipe, but it would probably be a good substitution for you to make so that you can enjoy smoothies.

Thanks, Cranberry! :-)

It's helpful to hear that it's similiar to other quality protein powders out there, by the way.

I'll try it in other recipes that calls for protein powder then ...

Sarah.

Oh, you may have misunderstood...
I did not mean to suggest that they are interchangeable in recipes, as they may have different properties that react in different ways when cooked or processed. However, they are both good protein sources.

Reading back on my previous post, I was stating that I have used the egg white protein powder in the past and it is comparable in cost to other protein powders that I have used. Stated because you asked about its cost in your previous post.

Hope that is a bit more clear than mud-lol!

;)

I think the two different products--white egg powder and white egg PROTEIN powder--are being confused here.

White egg powder is similiar to milk powder; the process to make white eggs into powder is the same basically as the process to make milk into powder.

With white egg powder, there's none of the artificial taste that the egg PROTEIN powder has.

So I see I did misunderstand ... you were talking about a protein powder from eggs, similiar to whey protein powder for example.

White egg powder is the same as meringue powder, BUT, meringue powder has the additional ingredients of corn starch and cream of tartar, etc.

Sarah

the PROTEIN powder that is made from eggs or white eggs has a pretty different taste, more chalky, etc., than white egg POWDER.

I don't know if anyone is familiar with the differences between the two ...

Sarah

I thought you were clear.
And you gave me Something new to look for ...
Thanks.

Oh, I was clear? Great! The two products look so similiar when I type them, it's easy to confuse them I think.

I got mine in a little package at a health store.

Sandra

By the way, this "bar" sounds like it might be good for runners and other active athletes that need a pick-me-up after an hour of exercise (to reduce/prevent cortisol overproduction). Thanks for sharing.

Hi Matthew,

So these people have a snack right after their workout to reduce or prevent cortisol overproduction? I'm starting exercising almost everyday, so I'd be interested in hearing or reading more about this ...

Sarah

Hi Sarah, the usual Zone recommendation for the best workout and recovery support is to have a Zone balanced snack prior to your workout if it's been a while since you last meal, and to also have a snack after your workout, unless you plan to have a meal soon after. After about 45 minutes of exercise, cortisol raises to a level that is conuterproductive to your Zone diet efforts. If your exercise session is significantly longer than 45 min, say an hour and a half, it's also a good idea to eat a Zone balanced snack halfway through the session.

Found some interesting Information

http://www.zonediet.com/blog/2010/1...is-better/

http://www.zonediet.com/blog/2010/0...-recovery/


What should I eat before a workout?

If you are worried about pre and post-workout nutrition and timing but you’re still having a slice of banana bread and saltine crackers for lunch then you’re completely putting the cart before the horse. Get the basics right first and then let the details follow. So on to the answer…For optimum performance, in the 24 hours prior to a workout you should eat Zone proportion meals from clean food sources. The only real question is what volume of food should you eat prior to a workout, and the answer is unique to every athlete. Almost nobody prefers eating immediately prior to a workout. Most athletes eat an hour or more prior to the workout. Some athletes find they must fast longer prior to A WORKOUT in order to avoid nausea. So make sure you’ve eaten a quality meal sometime in the 1-4 hours prior. Only experimentation and finding what works for you will yield the answer.


What should I eat after a workout?


Again, before you worry about post-workout nutrition you should be maintaining a Zone diet and training regularly.

People sometimes think somehow by drinking the perfect blended concoction of peas, grass and essence of fog... right after a workout, they can ignore nutrition the other 23 hours of the day that comprise most of your results.

The objective of post-workout nutrition is to optimize recovery by replenishing glycogen stores and providing protein to begin tissue repair. In theory, this improves the results of your next work-out, decreases hunger throughout your day, and improves body composition. However, despite all the possible benefits, implementation is quite varied among different athletes. The common trend seems to be
1. High glycemic load carbohydrates (fruits, berries, sweet potatoes, etc.)
2. Easily digestible protein (eggs, milk, etc.)
The science behind post-workout nutrition is that in the time window directly after high intensity exercise your body gets a “get out of jail free” card with respect to high glycemic carbs. This window spans from when you finish your last rep to 2 hours later, but is most potent in the first 30-45 minutes after the work-out. Not only are you less affected by an insulin spike during this time, but your body can actually productively use that insulin in replacing glycogen. Some athletes also like to include protein to start the tissue repair process. Therefore, most post-workout meals are light 1-2 block snacks that might be more carb heavy than a strictly Zone balanced meal.

Makes sense to me, just want to clarify... Should the post workout snack be zone balanced? Or is a higher amount of carb acceptable?

The science behind post-workout nutrition is that in the time window directly after high intensity exercise your body gets a “get out of jail free” card with respect to high glycemic carbs. This window spans from when you finish your last rep to 2 hours later, but is most potent in the first 30-45 minutes after the work-out. Not only are you less affected by an insulin spike during this time, but your body can actually productively use that insulin in replacing glycogen. Some athletes also like to include protein to start the tissue repair process. Therefore, most post-workout meals are light 1-2 block snacks that might be more carb heavy than a strictly Zone balanced meal.

Thanks but that didn't really answer the question. During that window of opportunity, how should the snack be balanced? For instance, I have heard that chocolate milk was a good post workout snack, it has the right amount of protein for a zone snack. However, too many carbs and unfavorable. Would it work in the zone during this post workout window?

Just reread that last sentence, Maybe it does answer it to some degree, but please let me know if the chocolate milk example OS a good option.

Cranberry, whether or not the chocolate milk works for you is going to depend on a variety of factors, including your individual level of sensitivity to carbohydrate in general and the intensity of the exercise.

I am hoping that techie can answer the question.

Not asking for myself, but rather because I have heard that chocolate milk makes a good post-workout snack. Now, just wondering if what I had heard actually has some scientific basis.

This also sounds a lot like what Matthew has been saying when he has posted about that post-workout window of opportunity.

Cranberry

I would defer to Sue... Sue's advise comes from someone who is extremely well read. She not only eats based on the principals of Dr Sears Zone Diet... She also uses and has benefitted from using Dr Sears OmegaRX and Polyphenols.

Of the many who post on these forums you can be confident that Sue's advise is solid and is based primarily on Dr Sears's research.

Ok, so, when I go to a gym class and exercise. Do I ADD a snack before and after the workout? And those are EXTRA blocks in additional to the 11 blocks I eat daily?

Or do I keep it at 11 blocks? Just rearrange my meals around the exercise?

lso. If I have two classes, that's two hours of exercise. I could eat a snack before the first (1st) class, then a snack right after the first (1st) class, then anther, third, snack right after the second (2nd) class?

This is getting complicated ...

Sarah

What is being said by all seems to be that you need to tune in your Zone. It is not one size fits all.

Many find a 1-2 block snack one hour prior to their work-out is great.. and then they follow with a 1-2 block snack after. You doing back to back this may not work well for you.

If you are eating based on Zone blocks your activity level is included in your total block calculation. so if it is 14 blocks for the day. Then use some of those 14 blocks for your pre / post workout snack.

Can I ask if you have any of Dr Sears Books ?

I have most of these books! :-)

But it's a LOT of information to digest so sometimes it's easier to ask questions ...

I do know that I don't want my cortisol levels to rise to destroy my zoning efforts, so I'd be fine with a snack before and after.

I see I need to stick with my existing blocks and rearrange accordingly.

Sarah

If you have Dr Sears book "Mastering the Zone" there is a ton about training and what to eat, when and how.

Thanks!

Sarah