Another Calculations Question Last Post 28 Jun 2010 07:22 PM by Sue. 11 Replies.
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Melissa

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 26 Jun 2010 11:58 AM Hello Everyone! I'm a newbie! I'm trying to figure out all this Zone stuff. I've got a couple books I've been reading though, as well as all the info on the website. I'm not new to the whole healthy way of eating (if anyone is familiar I'm coming from the Fat Flush Plan), just looking for a plan that's a little easier to follow with more food choices, and better suited for both me and my boyfriend without having to cook two completely different meals (because let me tell you, after a few months, this is getting very old!). Anyway, I entered in my measurements, as well as my boyfriends, and am confused with our "Block" calculations. It is saying that I should be on 11:11:11, while putting him at 10:10:10. I'm 5'2" 115lbs and he's 5'11" 145lbs (let me know if the other measurements are needed to answer my question). I've got a bit of weight to lose, and he's trying to gain...so I'm not sure if I should follow these recommendations or not. Is this way of eating going to maintain the body composition we already are, or bring us to our optimal weight/body fat? Thanks for the help!
Sue
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 26 Jun 2010 01:51 PM Hi Melissa,The minimum daily block requirement for adults, both male and female, is now 11 blocks. You might be following a Zone book that was written prior to the 11 block minimum begin established by Dr. Sears. If you'd like to check this, use the calculators here, on this web site, and they should result in nothing less than 11 blocks for both you and your boyfriend (http://www.zonediet.com/Tools/Calcu...ult.aspx). Yes, these amounts will bring you to your optimal weight/ body fat. If your boyfriend is below 12% body fat he would double or triple the amount of fat blocks he adds to meals until he reaches 12%, and then go back to the usual recommended amount of fat blocks. If he is trying to also gain lean body mass (LBM), meaning gain muscle, he can do that "in the Zone”, by also doing some strength training and increasing his protein intake by a block or so over his calculator recommendation. Sue KnorrLost 100 lbs 18 yrs ago, off BP meds, thanks to the Zone diet and Zone fish oil.Consultant of Zone Labs
Claire

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 26 Jun 2010 05:25 PM Hi Melissa! If you're looking for food choices and plenty of food you've come to the right place. Keep your food block list handy and enjoy! The longer you do it, it just becomes second nature. Good luck!
Melissa

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 26 Jun 2010 10:42 PM Thank you so much for your replies! I've been studying the zone for a couple weeks now and it is becoming easier already!Sue - the calculator on the website is actually where I got my boyfriends 10:10:10 blocks. He is like 7% body fat (needless to say he's very lean), and is trying to gain primarily LBM, although by the sounds of it he needs to get some fat on under his skin too. I am slightly concerned with increasing his fat intake that much, as he has issues with fat and acne. He's actually a bit fat-phobic, but I've been able to bring him out of that a bit. Acne aside though, he should double, even triple his fat blocks at each meal? And then also add another protein block or two at each meal? In that case, does he also increase the carbs to maintain the 40:30:30 ratio? I thought I read somewhere about men not going over 5 blocks per meal..?A lot of questions I know, thank you in advance for your patience!
John

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 27 Jun 2010 07:22 AM Dr.Sears does state that men shouldn't go over 5 blocks of Protein per meal and women shouldn't go over 4 blocks of Protein per meal. ~john --> Happily married 26 years --> 07 Feb 1986 <>< <>< <>< <>< PTL Col 3:23-24 ><> ><> ><> ><> Live the healthiest life you can enjoy, not the healthiest life you can tolerate.
Sue
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 27 Jun 2010 07:37 AM Hi Melissa, 1.  Huh, I'm surprised the calculator gave him 10-10-10; to my knowledge for years it' has been displaying 11-11-11 for those whose blocks have worked out to below the recommended minimum.  Possibly this website's calculator has been changed recently (Tech Support...any answers for this one?) 2.   Adding another 1.5 to 3 g fat to each meal (which is doubling or tripling the fat blocks; each addeed fat block contains 1.5 g fat) is not much at all.  You can read Barry Sears explanation of this adjustment in the FAQs chapter of the book  Mastering The Zone.3.  His acne should be well addressed by his Omega Rx dose (assuming he takes his appropriate dose); Omega RX usually eliminates acne for most people.  4.   It's 1 or 2 additional P blocks per day, not per meal, and yes, balance them with C and F appropriately.5.   Correct, it's best not to eat more than 5 blocks at a time.Good luck to you and you boyfriend.  I'll be happy to help if you have questions. Sue KnorrLost 100 lbs 18 yrs ago, off BP meds, thanks to the Zone diet and Zone fish oil.Consultant of Zone Labs
Melissa

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 27 Jun 2010 10:09 AM Thank you once again for answering my questions in such a timely and through manner. I think one of my issues is that I started with the wrong book. I picked up 'A Week in the Zone', and I'm thinking this one is not in depth enough to gain full understanding of this lifestyle. I can't even find a solid explanation of the whole "block" methodology in this book, I'm just trying to learn off the website.Thanks again, I'll be checking out 'Mastering the Zone' shortly!
Sue
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 27 Jun 2010 12:25 PM Hi Melissa,You're welcome.   Though Mastering the Zone is a very good book with lots of info, it was written in the 1990's, prior to A Week in the Zone, and doesn't contain the more recent developments to the Zone since then.   I'd recommend first reading either Toxic Fat or The Anti-Inflammation Zone to get the entire picture.Good luck! Sue KnorrLost 100 lbs 18 yrs ago, off BP meds, thanks to the Zone diet and Zone fish oil.Consultant of Zone Labs
Melissa

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 28 Jun 2010 07:35 AM Thanks Sue! I was searching through all the books (there's a lot of them!) trying to figure out which one would be best, and decided to head to the library for a good taste. I ended up with Zone Meals in Seconds (which I've only browsed briefly and seems to be pretty explanatory, especially for what appeared to be just a cookbook) and also Zone Perfect Meals in Minutes (which I haven't looked through yet).Looking forward to being a Zone master! Just using the plate and hand/eye method for now. I also have an egg question, but I'll make a new thread for that...
Sue
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 28 Jun 2010 08:50 AM You're welcome Melissa!  No worries, the double posting happens to me sometimes too.  I think I probably sometimes double click on the "Sumbit" key without thinking (fingers move faster than my brain does sometimes, lol!)  The hand/eye method is excellent.  It's the way I lost 100 pounds.  I eat mostly ZoneFast 1-2-3 now, which is very like using the hand /eye method because there's no block counting or gram counting involved.  BTW, I saw the egg qn, and though the yolk does contain additional fat, it's still ok to add the dash of monounsaturated fat to the meal.  As Dr. Sears has said, it's better to err on the side of eating a little too much dietary fat than too little.  That said, it's best to avoid eating the yolks as much as possible because of the AA they contain, as Tech Support posted. Sue KnorrLost 100 lbs 18 yrs ago, off BP meds, thanks to the Zone diet and Zone fish oil.Consultant of Zone Labs
Melissa

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 28 Jun 2010 05:47 PM Thanks again Sue you are so responsive I'm impressed!! I'm going to copy and paste your egg response in the egg posting so if anyone comes across it they will get the full answer, I hope that's ok with you!
Sue
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 28 Jun 2010 07:22 PM You're welcome, and it's fine!  Thanks! Sue KnorrLost 100 lbs 18 yrs ago, off BP meds, thanks to the Zone diet and Zone fish oil.Consultant of Zone Labs