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yikerszikers  Posts:0
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| 09/25/2003 2:34 AM |
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| Hi Guys :P
I HAD to start a new thread for us!! Seeing "Michelle-welcome back!" And "Michelle-Woodman's" over and over again is great for my ego, but I think it your turn!!
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starz  Posts:0
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| 09/26/2003 2:46 PM |
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| Hey Ronica!
Thanks for the Old Navy pants tip. I haven't really tried shopping there yet since I've become slimmer...actually, i think I've only really shopped there for the kids ever. They have great kids clothes sometimes. One of these days I'll have to check it out for me!
Re: the LBM thing, Ronica...we aren't supposed to shoot for LBM which I understand to be the total weight of all bones, muscles, organs, etc. but no fat whatsoever. You're right in questioning this. This is not a healthy weight at all. Our organs, etc. need fat for insulation and protection. Some fat is very important for proper body function, etc. The "healthy weight" guide that many if not most Health Care Professionals are going by lately is the Body Mass Index (BMI). You can find a BMI calculator through the National Heart, Lung, and Blood Institute website: www.nhlbisupport.com/bmi/bmicalc.htm It gives a range for "normal weight" because we're all built differently and feel good at different weights. The higher end of the range is typically for men and more muscular people and those who have a larger skeletal structure, etc....However, you just have to judge for yourself what feels right. This is a guide. As long as you're somewhere in the normal range and your size/weight feels good to you, you've got it!
Re: your sister. Without knowing her or knowing much about the situation, on first glance, it sounds like she doesn't have very high self esteem and feels the need to constantly call attention to herself to try to get reassurance or something...I could guess that she's gotten a lot of attention this way (negative attention) through people responding to her like? "You are not fat, would you please just stop it!...you're sooo skinny!", etc...just a guess. If she keeps getting responses like this (from friends and family, etc.), she'll continue to use this ploy for attention and reassurance. It must be difficult to ignore but would it be possible for all of you to decide to not respond and immediately change the subject each and every time she trys this??? It appears that she needs to find a way to be proud of herself without external re-assurance. Is she working on any projects or taking classes or happy in her current occupation??? Again, this really is just a shot in the dark....please just ignore if I'm way off target.
It sounds like you get some good exercise in with walking. How long does it typically take you to walk 2 miles? The goal (as far as decreasing risk of heart disease) is to exercise aerobically (which does include brisk walking) 30-40 minutes 3-5 days per week. We're now also hearing recommendations (through studies, etc., I'm not sure which) to up that to 60 minutes every day of the week....for those of us not exercising much yet, taking a stepwise approach such as starting with 20 minutes a day and gradually increasing the time over a period of weeks is a safe and less overwhelming way to get to the goal.
I'll have to check out the limited sometime again. I haven't been there probably since highschool. (I'm now almost 34). I loved that store way back in highschool. It would be fun to check it out again sometime.
Meeting on a Saturday afternoon near the square sounds good to me too... I could meet as soon as this Saturday (9/27) or the 11th or the 25th ( I have a wedding to go to on the 4th and I work on the 18th)...this Saturday would probably be best for me but I realize this is late notice. I haven't been to "Steep and Brew" on state street for years....though I'm happy to meet anywhere...any other ideas? Not to be too paranoid but, I think we should probably make our final plans through e-mail or over the phone off the forum for security reasons.
I'll try to check the forum & my e-mail again later tonight (Fri ).
We'll talk soon!
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| 09/26/2003 3:49 PM |
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| Hey Ronica!
Thanks for the Old Navy pants tip. I haven't really tried shopping there yet since I've become slimmer...actually, i think I've only really shopped there for the kids ever. They have great kids clothes sometimes. One of these days I'll have to check it out for me!
Re: the LBM thing, Ronica...we aren't supposed to shoot for LBM which I understand to be the total weight of all bones, muscles, organs, etc. but no fat whatsoever. You're right in questioning this. This is not a healthy weight at all. Our organs, etc. need fat for insulation and protection. Some fat is very important for proper body function, etc. The "healthy weight" guide that many if not most Health Care Professionals are going by lately is the Body Mass Index (BMI). You can find a BMI calculator through the National Heart, Lung, and Blood Institute website: www.nhlbisupport.com/bmi/bmicalc.htm It gives a range for "normal weight" because we're all built differently and feel good at different weights. The higher end of the range is typically for men and more muscular people and those who have a larger skeletal structure, etc....However, you just have to judge for yourself what feels right. This is a guide. As long as you're somewhere in the normal range and your size/weight feels good to you, you've got it!
Re: your sister. Without knowing her or knowing much about the situation, on first glance, it sounds like she doesn't have very high self esteem and feels the need to constantly call attention to herself to try to get reassurance or something...I could guess that she's gotten a lot of attention this way (negative attention) through people responding to her like? "You are not fat, would you please just stop it!...you're sooo skinny!", etc...just a guess. If she keeps getting responses like this (from friends and family, etc.), she'll continue to use this ploy for attention and reassurance. It must be difficult to ignore but would it be possible for all of you to decide to not respond and immediately change the subject each and every time she trys this??? It appears that she needs to find a way to be proud of herself without external re-assurance. Is she working on any projects or taking classes or happy in her current occupation??? Again, this really is just a shot in the dark....please just ignore if I'm way off target.
It sounds like you get some good exercise in with walking. How long does it typically take you to walk 2 miles? The goal (as far as decreasing risk of heart disease) is to exercise aerobically (which does include brisk walking) 30-40 minutes 3-5 days per week. We're now also hearing recommendations (through studies, etc., I'm not sure which) to up that to 60 minutes every day of the week....for those of us not exercising much yet, taking a stepwise approach such as starting with 20 minutes a day and gradually increasing the time over a period of weeks is a safe and less overwhelming way to get to the goal.
I'll have to check out the limited sometime again. I haven't been there probably since highschool. (I'm now almost 34). I loved that store way back in highschool. It would be fun to check it out again sometime.
Meeting on a Saturday afternoon near the square sounds good to me too... I could meet as soon as this Saturday (9/27) or the 11th or the 25th ( I have a wedding to go to on the 4th and I work on the 18th)...this Saturday would probably be best for me but I realize this is late notice. I haven't been to "Steep and Brew" on state street for years....though I'm happy to meet anywhere...any other ideas? Not to be too paranoid but, I think we should probably make our final plans through e-mail or over the phone off the forum for security reasons.
I'll try to check the forum & my e-mail again later tonight (Fri ).
We'll talk soon!
:-) Donna. |
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| 09/26/2003 3:55 PM |
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| Hi Michelle!
I just spend nearly an hour responding to your great post....when I went to submit it, it got lost and somehow posted my post to Ronica again instead! :x ?Maybe I did something wrong...??? but I don't think so... I'm just sick about it!
I don't know what happened. I do really need to get some things done now, though, while the baby is still sleeping this morning. I'll have to try again later. How frustrating!
I might just respond to you through e-mail this next time.
See my post to Ronica for now and I'll get back to you.
Ugh!
:-) Donna. |
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| 09/26/2003 7:10 PM |
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| Hi Michelle...this may be a bit shorter because I'm short on time...we'll see.
Your pictures look great! You actually look a lot like I pictures...but you look like a totally different person in the 2nd picture! You should be very proud! You must be feeling fantastic!
I was sorry when you first told me that you had been on Phen-Fen. I've heard that it was very helpful in terms of weight loss for many but also detrimental to the health of many in terms of mitral valve problems and pulmonary hypertension. I sincerely hope you have not had any adverse side effects from it...
I wish I had heard of the Zone much sooner as well...Well, at least we have it now and from now on...that's the important thing at this point.
As far as your goal weight, most Health Care Professionals are now recommending the Body Mass Index or (BMI). A link to a BMI calculator for it is available in my post to Ronica. Since you posted your height, I used the calculator for you which states that a normal weight for you would be between 101 and 136...this is quite a range because people's body types differ greatly. You have to decide for yourself within this range what looks and more importantly feels right to you.
Re: your cravings a week before your period, I wonder if you ???maybe?? need to increase your blocks slightly during that time???
I think it's smart of you to take a break at intervals...this will probably help to better prepare you for your maintenance phase.
Re: your annual exam...I can relate to this so well! It sounds like a light switch went off for you the beginning of the year re: not wanting to get any larger in pant size...I think that's what has to happen to be successful...with a flip of that light switch, so to speak and the zone in our back pockets, we've got it made! I had just gotten so big that I was so incredibly physically uncomfortable that I was determined all through my pregnancy to get the weight off afterward one way or another...I weighed at 5'6" 275 pre-pregnancy. I, then, ate less and more healthily in general all throughout my pregnancy. After my pregnancy, I weighed about 263. I then had my post-birth appointment with my OB/GYN about 9 weeks after the birth of my son. At that time, I had been on the 40-30-30 diet a few weeks or so...I weighed 250lbs. I, so proudly, told my very thin OB/GYN (woman) that I had lost 25 lbs! Well, she looked at my 250lb body and said, very dead pan..."Hmmm.", while I'm sure thinking to herself "You have a long way to go lady!"...and I did have a long way to go at the time...Now, I'm more than 120 pounds under my pre-pregnancy weight...and guess what??? My appointment with her is today,...actually in a little more than 1/2 hour! Wish me luck!
Re: the presentation applause the other night. I really wasn't too offended...I really know this PA well. I'm sure he just meant to give me a big pat on the back...he knows how proud I am of my success....and it helps for other HCPs to see that people can do it so that they can be more motivating with the patients their working with. It was pretty embarrassing, though...he did apologize during the presentation for putting me on the spot but I haven't seen him since because I was in a class all day the last time I worked.
Re: your friend with the ID...it is cruel what society does to those who are overweight. I personally don't remember too many people being directly cruel to me, or I was maybe just oblivious to it...but I now hear the comments people often make about others who are overweight. I'm sure many were talking behind my back.
Re: your husband having trouble with hunger when he briefly tried the zone...maybe he needs to increase blocks a little??? I, personally, started with that Formula book that I've mentioned several times. It is 40-30-30 and essentially the zone diet but counted in grams instead of blocks...Also, it allows for calories based on your current weight and activity level rather than your goal weight and activity level as is suggested by the zone. Personally, I don't think that at 270 lbs, I would have been able to stick to only 11 blocks. I've tried doing 11 blocks recently even and I was crabby and hungry. I usually (currently) eat more like 12-13 or even 14 blocks per day and I'm still losing...I'm sure I was getting even more blocks per day when I was heavier. I'd have to look at the book again and figure it according to blocks. Just a thought.
The comments like "the wind is going to take you away" are fun, aren't they? They're uplifting and motivating too! Now, most of the comments I get are: "You're done losing, now, aren't you, Donna?"...which is a little ridiculous. I need to lose about 3-5 more pounds to be in the normal weight for BMI. I'm still technically considered "moderately overweight". I'd like to be 140 or 145 and see how that feels...if I feel like I would like to lose a little more, I might go to about 130, I think. But, I think I'd look too thin anywhere below that. A dietician I work with said she thinks that with the obesity epidemic, people are getting so used to seeing people overweight that those who are actually at their ideal body weight appear too thin now. I think she's right! Also, have you ever gone onto the Land's End website where you can put in your personal "virtual model". You can use it to try on outfits, etc. You can also modify the model to different weights to get a good perspective on what you would look like at different weights. It's pretty cool!
As I told Ronica, I could meet this Saturday the 27th or the 11th or 25th. This Saturday might be best for me (sorry such late notice) but the others are currently still o.k. too. (the 11th is my sister's birthday...I'm not sure what our plans will be...but I would imagine I could take some time out...I probably will just be with her part of the day...no plans yet)...I have a wedding to go to on the 4th and I work on the 18th.
I'll check my e-mail and the forum later today.
We'll talk soon!
O.K...here goes...I'm going to try to post this again!
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RBrownson  Posts:0
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| 09/30/2003 3:00 AM |
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| Hello ladies!
Sorry I didn't check this weekend--I was busy as usual and (insert excuse here.) Blah blah blah but I'm back! I'd love to set up coffee some Saturday-- I do work 9-1PM, but could do early AM or even a 1:15 lunch for me type thing. I usually eat 1/2 zp bar at noon to get me through, so am ready for lunch soon after work.
Thanks for the clarification on the LBM. That's what I thought, but the site wasn't very clear. I am now in the "healthy" range for BMI, so that's good, but would still like to lose some more weight. I really wouldn't mind being somewhere in the 120's, which I think would be fine for me, as I have a medium build and am 5'6" tall. I'm sitting around 146-7 right now, but trying to kick start it!
Thanks for the thoughts on my sis, too. I know she is very low in self-esteem, and has been for a long time. Unfortunately , the ignoring her, changing the subject, and telling her to stop really don't work. With her it's like an obsession, and she doesn't even really listen to what others think. She (I think) likes the sound of her own voice, and feels somehow justified if she keeps complaining, like she's proving herself better by not being satisfied with herself. Either that, or she honestly has nothing else to talk about because that is almost everything she thinks about. She's unsatisfied with many aspects of her life--long story here, but somehow believes that if she finds a man her life will be perfect (OK, HUGE load of crap there), thinks she doesn't make enough money, yet spends like there's no tomorrow and she is entitled to 34 pairs of leather boots :!: , and keeps herself busy 24-7 by doing outside freelance work, taking classes, shopping, "decorating", and obsessing about everything and everyone and how they are all out to get her but she'll be fine when she finds a husband, gets a house and has a baby. Regardless of the fact that she hasn't had a date in over a year. I've tried to help her get in counseling (she wouldn't return after one session because she didn't "know" the counselor--duh!), got her into her doctor for a physical (she was on meds for a while but wouldn't spend the money on them so quit), and tried to get her to see how depressed she is. Of course, she thinks she's fine. :shock: As if I could get her to consider the zone--she eats crap (only shops at Byerly's [of course she's entitled to this] and eats cookies, muffins, candy, diet soda, and pre-packaged items in very small amounts. She loves preservatives and sugar and salt--I can't even eat a taste of what most of her diet is--it gives me indigestion!) and would never commit to anything that actually required effort, unless it was to marbelize a martini set or staple velvet to her wall. (I'm not even going to get into the decorating.)
Anyway, that was one he** of a vent. Sorry. She called this weekend. She was depressed because she had just bought herself a complete new bedroom set and the delivery guys had damaged it, so she had to wait *two whole weeks* for the new items to be replaced, though she got to keep everything until the two replacement items came in. Horror of horrors, I tell you. How will she live? :cry: :roll: She was very proud of the fact that my dad didn't pay one cent for this, because he's been subsidizing her boot obsession and all the other stuff she buys and can't pay for. She lives in the twin cities, and rather than get a better car, which she desperately needs, she buys herself a full cherry bedroom set. Yeah. Priorities. AAAAARRRRGGGGHHHHH!!!!!!
This makes my purchase of a tiny pair of red sandals this weekend at the new DSW Shoe Warehouse pale in comparison. :) They were only 12$. Have you been to the new Greenway Crossing shopping area in Middleton yet? I am excited that they have an Ann Taylor Loft, a DSW, a Michael's Craft store and a Linens-n-things. It's a nice place! I very much enjoyed the shoes.
:lol: Ann Taylor has gorgeous clothes, and the prices are not nearly as shocking as they are at the regular Ann Taylor store. :) They also had a Chico's and a Dress Barn.
Oh, re: the Limited. I went in to check the sales today and all that was left was crap. :cry: However, they do have some cute new winter stuff. I like the Limited, because it's a little more tailored and work-oriented, so you don't feel like you are shopping in the slutty teenager/supermodel section. Their work pants/jackets have stretch, too, which always improves the fit. :D I checked out Express, which much the same results. Express tends to be too trendy for me, but I look anyway. Doesn't hurt! :wink:
Re: the walking, it usually takes me about 45 minutes to do 2 miles, but that's also poop-scooping and trying to keep Lucy from stopping to sniff _every_ tree and meet _every_ dog on the way. If I push it I can go faster, but I guess I don't really pay too close attention to the time--I just want to make sure she's done her job! If not, we don't sleep through the night...
Well, speaking of which, I need to get my lunch made so I can go to bed.
Great to hear from you! Keep 'em coming!
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| 09/30/2003 3:18 AM |
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| Wow, you sure do get around, Ronica!
Whole Foods, Old Navy, Woodmans, the Essen Haus, The Limited,...the list goes on and on! It's hard to keep up! You have such wonderful tips (re: 365 Peanut butter and Protein powder, etc.)! I really appreciate them. I have gone to Whole Foods on occasion. Their produce is just gorgeous!
Re: getting together, Michelle and I were able to get together this past Saturday (we organized through e-mail & phone conversations). We hadn't heard anything from you via post or e-mail in response to my last post so assumed you were busy or something...sounds like you were!!!......Mrs. Stein club member!!!.....sounds like a lot of fun! We talked for a while over decaf at a bookstore on the East Side, then looked at some Zone related books there afterward. It was fun (at least I had a good time, anyway)...We were both saying we hope we can meet with you sometime soon too!
My husband is a stein club member too. We actually had our wedding rehearsal dinner at the Essen Haus over 6 years ago...now with kids, we haven't been there much since...maybe once or twice...Someday, we'll have to go back. I bet you two had a great time! Enjoy your time while you're free (without kids around I mean)...I love having my kids but I never realized how much time I must have had before they came along. I should have been getting so much more done! :P
It does sound like you get a lot done. I love hearing about your food and clothing finds. We (the family) actually went to Old Navy tonight. I wasn't in the market for dress pants this time but we wanted to find some nice sweatshirts (with the cold weather creeping in)...we were amazed that with all of the sweatshirts in the building, all of them had hoods! It must be the in thing...just not what we were lookin' for this time around. I also tried on a bunch of clothes. They fit great but ? I can't quite describe it...I felt like if I wore them, I was trying too hard to look younger or something...not sure...I'm still sort of working on the new style thing... Anyway, my husband got a sweater and a light coat and I got a few warmer outfits for my 1 year old...so cute! They do really have some great stuff!
Let Michelle or I know via e-mail or phone ( I think you have my phone # if you received the e-mail I sent with pictures a few days back) when/if you might want to try to get together.
Hope to talk soon!
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| 09/30/2003 10:23 PM |
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| Hi Donna!
Yeah, you're right, I get around a little too much! Like my sister, I am a bit obsessive about shopping, but I am much more of a bargain hunter than she. Of course, losing weight has made me excited about new clothes again, too, so it's a lot of fun! The styles at Old Navy can be kind of young--the summer stuff especially, but the dressy work clothes usually work pretty well for me. I'm not into all the gathery pants and the pockets everywhere/cargo everything (unless you are pretty slim, cargoes tend to draw attention to everyplace!) . I guess hoodies must be the thing this fall, but I'm sure as it gets cooler they will bring in some regular sweatshirts, too. They also have nice button-down cotton shirts with a little stretch in them. I have 2 that I wear quite often. I also enjoy their jeans, and they have many with stretch which I find much more comfortable. They have lots of styles and sizes, so it's worth trying on several to find the type you like. I don't wear jeans much (mainly weekends) so by the time they are worn out, they tend to be out of style, so I don't like to spend much on them. :) If I saved them until they were really worn out, I'd still be in acid wash with the little zippers on the ankles! :oops:
Sorry I missed the coffee meeting--sounds like fun. We'll have to do it sometime! My email is clarinetpower@hotmail.com, if you ever want to correspond anonymously. I didn't get an email from you that I know of, unless I accidentally deleted something in my junk mail file, not knowing it was from you. If you put "donna" or "starz" in the subject line, I'll make sure to save it to my inbox.
Have rehearsal tonight, but then must get all bills paid (paycheck to deposit--yipee!) so that will be a relief. I had such an interesting supper tonight--was sick of everything in the fridge so I made a raspberry pear yogurt protein powder smoothie and ate some cashews. Could that be weirder? Tasted good though! Got to get to the store tomorrow and get some new interesting food! You're right that Whole Foods has beautiful produce--also very pricey! I got some green beans there, and they were OK, but the local ones I've had from Woodman's have been generally better. Don't look as pretty, but cook up more tender and flavorful. Go figure!
Well, better put my work clothes back on--got into my jeans to walk the dog, but now it's time for the dressy stuff again. :)
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| 10/02/2003 10:52 PM |
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| Hey Ladies!
What do you think about the Farmers' Market on Saturday, bright and early? I need to get some jam for my sister-in-law in Florida before the season is over...
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| 10/03/2003 2:08 PM |
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Re: your husband having trouble with hunger when he briefly tried the zone...maybe he needs to increase blocks a little??? I, personally, started with that Formula book that I've mentioned several times. It is 40-30-30 and essentially the zone diet but counted in grams instead of blocks...Also, it allows for calories based on your current weight and activity level rather than your goal weight and activity level as is suggested by the zone.
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Hi Donna,
I've been reading your posts, and noticed this item I quoted here. I'd like to clarify something you mentioned.
The Zone isn't based on caloric need, but on the amount of protein necessary to sustain one's current LBM at one's current activity level. The Zone does not suggest one should eat based on a goal weight and activity level. If one is very obese a higher than actual activity level is assumed and additional blocks above those necessary to support current activity level are consumed daily. These additional blocks are necessary because carrying around a large amount of body fat is comparable to strength training on a daily basis. As body fat % lowers, one can eliminate these extra blocks and base their daily need for food on their current LBM and actual activity level. One's block requirement will change if one's LBM or current activity level changes significantly regardless of whether or not they are at an ideal body fat % (or goal weight , as you refer to it ).
In summary, I repeat the Zone diet is based on current weight and activity level.
Congrats on your progress with the Zone and keep up the good work! :D
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To view my before/after pics and meal photos scroll over this picture and click when the link appears.
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| 10/04/2003 4:02 AM |
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| I wish I had checked this late Thurs. or early today! Now it's nearly 11PM on Friday night, and I doubt I'll be able to catch you before tomorrow. Argh!
Well, doesn't look like Donna's responded either. Sorry, Michelle! Wish we could have hooked up. I am half asleep right now and must get to bed so I can face high school kids with weapons, I mean instruments, early in the morning! :lol:
Hope you enjoy the market!
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| 10/04/2003 4:40 AM |
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| Hello Sue!
Thank you for your post re: the zone block requirements. I should play around with zone block calculations a little more to get a better handle on this, I think. When I met with Michelle in person last week, she pointed out my misunderstanding on this topic. However, I'm still a little confused, I think.
I was under the assumption that the zone had you eat blocks based on your ideal weight rather than your current weight for some of these reasons.... My thinking stemmed from a zone calculator I once used when i was still quite overweight. The calculator calculated my blocks to be much lower than the Formula book (if compared to blocks) would have had me eat. When I was over 180 lbs, the Formula book had me eat the equivalent of about 16 blocks per day. I don't remember exactly the amount of blocks that calculator computed for me but I do remember it was significantly less....something like 12 blocks, I think? (I was still well over 200 pounds at the time...and as you may have read, I started 40-30-30 at about 263 lbs). Also, I've read in zone literature that the "average woman" should have about 11 blocks. I'm now 5'6 and just under 150 lbs. (just within normal BMI range) So, without doing the formal calculations, I figured I was currently about "average" and would be loosely calculated at 11 blocks.
Also, I did try using the zoneperfect calculator again recently. It somehow still calculated me to need 11 blocks. I actually am much more comfortable and am still losing about 1.5 lbs/week on more like 12-13-sometimes 14 blocks, however. Being over 140 lbs (and under 180), and at my activity level, the formula book would have me eating 14 blocks. At under 140 lbs, the formula book would recommend I eat about 12 blocks....still more than the "average woman" as generally recommended in the zone books. One of these days, I should try using the calculations in the back of one of the zone books I have to determine my zone block allotment more precisely.
It also seems I had read somewhere, though I'm not sure now, when using that zoneperfect calculator, an explanation of why it calculated blocks based on ideal body weight. ??? If I ever come across that subject again, if it even exists, I'll have to read it more closely and ? post it.
The Formula and The Zone are both 40-30-30 based but I still believe they may differ somewhat in what is recommended per day when compared overall calorie wise...I apologize if I mis-quoted the ideal body weight thing so to speak...I don't mean to be causing any confusion for anyone out there. I fully admit, I'm still learning more and more each day about the Zone version. Regardless, the 40-30-30/Zone way of life has become my life in many ways. I wholeheartedly thank Barry Sears for his discovery/creation of the zone and 40-30-30 way of eating through his advancements in scientific research.
I would appreciate any further explanation on this topic from you Sue. Otherwise, I'm sure I'll be reading that section of my zone books more closely when I get a chance as well. I do really appreciate your knowledgeable posts, Sue. Thank you!
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| 10/06/2003 10:38 PM |
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| [quote:2126627963="starz"]Hello Sue!
Thank you for your post re: the zone block requirements. I should play around with zone block calculations a little more to get a better handle on this, I think. When I met with Michelle in person last week, she pointed out my misunderstanding on this topic. However, I'm still a little confused, I think.
I was under the assumption that the zone had you eat blocks based on your ideal weight rather than your current weight for some of these reasons.... My thinking stemmed from a zone calculator I once used when i was still quite overweight. The calculator calculated my blocks to be much lower than the Formula book (if compared to blocks) would have had me eat. When I was over 180 lbs, the Formula book had me eat the equivalent of about 16 blocks per day. I don't remember exactly the amount of blocks that calculator computed for me but I do remember it was significantly less....something like 12 blocks, I think? (I was still well over 200 pounds at the time...and as you may have read, I started 40-30-30 at about 263 lbs). Also, I've read in zone literature that the "average woman" should have about 11 blocks. I'm now 5'6 and just under 150 lbs. (just within normal BMI range) So, without doing the formal calculations, I figured I was currently about "average" and would be loosely calculated at 11 blocks.
Also, I did try using the zoneperfect calculator again recently. It somehow still calculated me to need 11 blocks. I actually am much more comfortable and am still losing about 1.5 lbs/week on more like 12-13-sometimes 14 blocks, however. Being over 140 lbs (and under 180), and at my activity level, the formula book would have me eating 14 blocks. At under 140 lbs, the formula book would recommend I eat about 12 blocks....still more than the "average woman" as generally recommended in the zone books. One of these days, I should try using the calculations in the back of one of the zone books I have to determine my zone block allotment more precisely.
It also seems I had read somewhere, though I'm not sure now, when using that zoneperfect calculator, an explanation of why it calculated blocks based on ideal body weight. ??? If I ever come across that subject again, if it even exists, I'll have to read it more closely and ? post it.
The Formula and The Zone are both 40-30-30 based but I still believe they may differ somewhat in what is recommended per day when compared overall calorie wise...I apologize if I mis-quoted the ideal body weight thing so to speak...I don't mean to be causing any confusion for anyone out there. I fully admit, I'm still learning more and more each day about the Zone version. Regardless, the 40-30-30/Zone way of life has become my life in many ways. I wholeheartedly thank Barry Sears for his discovery/creation of the zone and 40-30-30 way of eating through his advancements in scientific research.
I would appreciate any further explanation on this topic from you Sue. Otherwise, I'm sure I'll be reading that section of my zone books more closely when I get a chance as well. I do really appreciate your knowledgeable posts, Sue. Thank you!
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Hi Donna,
I'll try to help with your confusion. In the Zone one eats an appropriate amount of low fat protein, determined by one's current LBM and activity level, and balances it with an amount of carb in keeping with the Zone guidelines (P/C ratio from about .5 or .6 to 1) to yield a fairly low glycemic load. Then a small amount of monounsaturated fat is added. the Zone is based on acheiving hormonal balance, primarily glucagon /insulin balance, and not on controlling calorie intake. One pays no attention to calories in the Zone, but rather concentrates on the hormonal consequences of one's food choices, although when following the Zone guidelines of low fat protein and low GL meals, with only a small amount of additional fat, the diet automatically becomes low in calories. I am not familiar with the "Formula" literature you referred to, but I think you may be trying to compare apples to oranges. If so that is probably adding to your confusion.
Another thing I think you may be confused about is the relationship of the 40/30/30 concept to the Zone. For instance at the [b:2126627963]center[/b:2126627963] of the Zone, which is a .75 P/C ratio, the 40/30/30 concept applies, but only at the [b:2126627963]center[/b:2126627963]. The Zone represents a range of ratios, as I mentioned above. In the traditionally balanced 3 block Zone meal, one consumes 27g carb (carbs have 4 calories in every g), 21g protein (protein has 4 calories in every g), and 9 g fat (fat has 9 calories in every g). So a 3 block meal has a total of 273 calories. 108 of these calories (which is 40% of 273) are from carb; 84 calories (which is 30% of 273) are from protein; and 81 calories (which is 30% of 273) are from fat. That's where the expression 40/30/30 originates. The ratio of 84 protein calories to 108 carb calories is also referred to as a .75 P/C ratio (84 divided by 108 equals about .75).
One can be above or below the .75 P/C ratio and still be in the Zone. When one adds or subtracts a block of carb to adjust for hunger, this will either lower or raise the P/C ratio. A traditional adjustment to the Zone, as you have probably read in the Forums and/or the FAQs on this site, is to eliminate some carb and to add fat to meals in order to stay in the Zone. In this case a 3 block meal is usually 3P, 2C, 6F. If you calculate the percantage of calories form P, C, and F in this block configuration you no longer have 40/30/30, but now 26/30/44. This meal is still in the Zone and has about 277 total calories (basicallly the same as the 273 calories in the 3P/3C/3F meal). But, as you can see, 26/30/44 is definitley not 40/30/30! The P/C ratio for 26/30/44 is about 1.
You mentioned trying the LBM calculations in the Zone books. This will give you block recommendations, and also results for LBM and body fat %, which are almost identical to those from the Body Fat Calculator on this site. The only difference will be from rounding to the nearest 5 lb when using the Body Fat Calculator.
As far as your confusion about the 11 or 12 blocks, and whether or not you represent the average woman, it will all depend upon your LBM. You've given your weight, and your Body Mass Index, but not your actual LBM or activity level. Without those two pieces of info I would not be able to speculate on the appropriate number of daily blocks for you. One's current LBM and activity level are the basis of daily block calculations.
It is recommended that one track one's LBM and body fat % during weight loss to ascertain that they are not losing LBM. In the Zone, the weight one loses should be only from excess stored body fat. LBM should either remain constant or increase.
I hope this info has been helpful, and congrats on your weight loss! :D
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| Hello Sue! :D :D :D
Actually, "The Formula" and the Zone are extremely similar. We're comparing Braeburn apples to Macintosh Apples, so to speak, rather than apples to oranges. You may want to take a look at the Formula book sometime. It has some fantastic recipes!
I am actually quite familiar with the topics of your last post through following the Formula for over a year and now the zone as well through at least 1/2 that time. I've read most of the Zone books as well. I'm hooked!
I realize that the Zone isn't counted in calories...either is the Formula. I just used the concept of calories in order to compare the two "diets" because they each use a different way of counting essentially the same macronutrient ratio (based on 40-30-30). I realize some people use the raise a fat, drop a carb, etc. in order to calibrate things for themselves to get them into their zone. That's fine....The Formula book does differ in that is sticks pretty close to the 40-30-30 ratio but it also has a great section called "Close is Good Enough" which takes some of the pressure off of counting exactly and precisely each and every time a meal is made. (similar to the concepts of the plate method or eyeball/hand method of the zone).
I am still down to that final topic again, though...I just did the calculator on this site. With a height of 66 inches, a weight of 149, and light activity level...31.36% body fat, and a LBM of 102.27, my protein requirement is 77g and my zone block requirement still calculates to be 11 blocks. The formula book would still have me at 14 "blocks" because I am a woman at a weight between 141-180 lbs, and currently exercise 0-4 hours per week. When I am under 140 lbs, the formula book would still have me at 12 blocks. This is the lowest amount recommended in the formula book for an adult. This is where I see a difference in the two eating plans (formula & zone).
These are both excellent diets...really just a different way of counting essentially the same macronutrient ratio. The diets are really largely interchangeable except for the difference in overall calorie allotment a person would eat in a day on either plan.
Really, do take a look at that book sometime if you get a chance, Sue. ("The Formula: A Personalized 40-30-30 Weight Loss Program by Gene and Joyce Daoust). The authors are two nutritionists who worked with Dr. Sears in developing and testing the original 40-30-30 zone nutrition program. I, now, use is mostly as a cookbook of great balanced recipes!
Thank you for your thorough replies. Also, it's really inspiring to see that you lost the amount of weight you did many years ago and are still going strong with the zone. I plan to do the same...it's really just the way I eat now...
Lovin' the zone
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| 10/07/2003 3:42 PM |
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| [quote:5e6389355e="starz"]Hello Sue! :D :D :D
Actually, "The Formula" and the Zone are extremely similar. We're comparing Braeburn apples to Macintosh Apples, so to speak, rather than apples to oranges. You may want to take a look at the Formula book sometime. It has some fantastic recipes!
I am actually quite familiar with the topics of your last post through following the Formula for over a year and now the zone as well through at least 1/2 that time. I've read most of the Zone books as well. I'm hooked!
I realize that the Zone isn't counted in calories...either is the Formula. I just used the concept of calories in order to compare the two "diets" because they each use a different way of counting essentially the same macronutrient ratio (based on 40-30-30). I realize some people use the raise a fat, drop a carb, etc. in order to calibrate things for themselves to get them into their zone. That's fine....The Formula book does differ in that is sticks pretty close to the 40-30-30 ratio but it also has a great section called "Close is Good Enough" which takes some of the pressure off of counting exactly and precisely each and every time a meal is made. (similar to the concepts of the plate method or eyeball/hand method of the zone).
I am still down to that final topic again, though...I just did the calculator on this site. With a height of 66 inches, a weight of 149, and light activity level...31.36% body fat, and a LBM of 102.27, my protein requirement is 77g and my zone block requirement still calculates to be 11 blocks. The formula book would still have me at 14 "blocks" because I am a woman at a weight between 141-180 lbs, and currently exercise 0-4 hours per week. When I am under 140 lbs, the formula book would still have me at 12 blocks. This is the lowest amount recommended in the formula book for an adult. This is where I see a difference in the two eating plans (formula & zone).
These are both excellent diets...really just a different way of counting essentially the same macronutrient ratio. The diets are really largely interchangeable except for the difference in overall calorie allotment a person would eat in a day on either plan.
Really, do take a look at that book sometime if you get a chance, Sue. ("The Formula: A Personalized 40-30-30 Weight Loss Program by Gene and Joyce Daoust). The authors are two nutritionists who worked with Dr. Sears in developing and testing the original 40-30-30 zone nutrition program. I, now, use is mostly as a cookbook of great balanced recipes!
Thank you for your thorough replies. Also, it's really inspiring to see that you lost the amount of weight you did many years ago and are still going strong with the zone. I plan to do the same...it's really just the way I eat now...
Lovin' the zone
:-) Donna.[/quote:5e6389355e]
Hi Donna,
It seems I'm just not clearly stating my point. The point I am trying to make is that you are referring to the Zone as a 40/30/30 diet, and, plain and simple, it is [b:5e6389355e]not[/b:5e6389355e]! :shock:
Sorry to be so blunt!
Please refer to the following quote from Barry Sears taken from this site:
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Dear Dr. Sears, How would you respond to the following Q&A on Dr. D'Adamo's website: As you know, the 40-30-30 diets "blame" many of the health ills on elevated insulin. Do you give any credence to this? Should we take the Glycemic index of foods on
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Dear Tom Kobzina,
Dear Tom: The Zone Diet is not a 40-30-30 diet. It is based upon balance of protein to carbohydrate until insulin levels are eventually bought into a zone between 5uU/ml and 10 uU/ml. Furthermore, the Zone Diet is based on overall hormonal orchestrat.....
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| 10/07/2003 7:49 PM |
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| [quote:1a5fe0cd4b]Another thing I think you may be confused about is the relationship of the 40/30/30 concept to the Zone. For instance at the center of the Zone, which is a .75 P/C ratio, the 40/30/30 concept applies, but only at the center. The Zone represents a range of ratios, as I mentioned above. In the traditionally balanced 3 block Zone meal, one consumes 27g carb (carbs have 4 calories in every g), 21g protein (protein has 4 calories in every g), and 9 g fat (fat has 9 calories in every g). So a 3 block meal has a total of 273 calories. 108 of these calories (which is 40% of 273) are from carb; 84 calories (which is 30% of 273) are from protein; and 81 calories (which is 30% of 273) are from fat. That's where the expression 40/30/30 originates. The ratio of 84 protein calories to 108 carb calories is also referred to as a .75 P/C ratio (84 divided by 108 equals about .75)[/quote:1a5fe0cd4b]
I do understand that the 40-30-30 ratio is only at the center of the zone as you stated above...and I don't mean to say these "diets" are the same. I said they are similar. The reason I compare the two and use the two interchangeably in my own personal meal preparation is that regardless of how or what you count to get there, when making a 40-30-30 or.75 P/C ratio or zone block based meal aiming for the center of the zone, you get the same macronutrient ratio following either "diet"... (also--i realize that some people need to but-- so far, I haven't personally needed to increase fat and decrease carbs to stay in the zone) Any of the meals in the formula book or any other 40-30-30 cookbook can get you to "the center" of the zone as long as they include zone favorable ingredients and that each meal is approximately 40-30-30 balanced which would give you an approximate P/C ratio of .75. You can count things many different ways. The bottom line is you still end up sitting down to the same balance of macronutrients at each meal, regardless.
I don't mean to sound offensive here, Sue. I really think we are just working through some terminology. I did state something incorrectly. I should have said "the 40-30-30 concept applies at the center of the zone" [i:1a5fe0cd4b]not[/i:1a5fe0cd4b] that the zone is [i:1a5fe0cd4b]based on[/i:1a5fe0cd4b] the 40-30-30 concept. I apologize. Thank you for clarifying this.
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| 10/07/2003 8:56 PM |
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| [quote:e19cbf88a1="starz"][quote:e19cbf88a1]Another thing I think you may be confused about is the relationship of the 40/30/30 concept to the Zone. For instance at the center of the Zone, which is a .75 P/C ratio, the 40/30/30 concept applies, but only at the center. The Zone represents a range of ratios, as I mentioned above. In the traditionally balanced 3 block Zone meal, one consumes 27g carb (carbs have 4 calories in every g), 21g protein (protein has 4 calories in every g), and 9 g fat (fat has 9 calories in every g). So a 3 block meal has a total of 273 calories. 108 of these calories (which is 40% of 273) are from carb; 84 calories (which is 30% of 273) are from protein; and 81 calories (which is 30% of 273) are from fat. That's where the expression 40/30/30 originates. The ratio of 84 protein calories to 108 carb calories is also referred to as a .75 P/C ratio (84 divided by 108 equals about .75)[/quote:e19cbf88a1]
I do understand that the 40-30-30 ratio is only at the center of the zone as you stated above...and I don't mean to say these "diets" are the same. I said they are similar. The reason I compare the two and use the two interchangeably in my own personal meal preparation is that regardless of how or what you count to get there, when making a 40-30-30 or.75 P/C ratio or zone block based meal aiming for the center of the zone, you get the same macronutrient ratio following either "diet"... (also--i realize that some people need to but-- so far, I haven't personally needed to increase fat and decrease carbs to stay in the zone) Any of the meals in the formula book or any other 40-30-30 cookbook can get you to "the center" of the zone as long as they include zone favorable ingredients and that each meal is approximately 40-30-30 balanced which would give you an approximate P/C ratio of .75. You can count things many different ways. The bottom line is you still end up sitting down to the same balance of macronutrients at each meal, regardless.
I don't mean to sound offensive here, Sue. I really think we are just working through some terminology. I did state something incorrectly. I should have said "the 40-30-30 concept applies at the center of the zone" [i:e19cbf88a1]not[/i:e19cbf88a1] that the zone is [i:e19cbf88a1]based on[/i:e19cbf88a1] the 40-30-30 concept. I apologize. Thank you for clarifying this.
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Hi Donna, :D
No offense taken!
Sorry, but I have to disagree that "we are just working through some terminology". While I do agree you may get the same macronutrient ratio, it does not follow that you will get the same hormonal impact.
Your initial question was about why the eating plans (Zone and Formula), which you described to both be 40/30/'30, are not each recommending the same amount of food for a woman your size.
My reply was that the Zone is not a 40/30/30 diet.
You just stated in this last post that you don't mean to say these diets are the same, but are similar. That's the answer right there to your question about why one eating plan recommends that a person of your size eat more food than the other plan recommends. They are not the same.
Bear in mind the hormonal implications of the Zone. That's what the Zone is all about, eating to keep your insulin between the levels of 5 and 10 on the fasting insulin blood test. Those levels are the definition of the Zone. While I have not read "The Formula", as I have already posted, from your brief description of it, I would doubt that it is based on acheiving precise and measureable insulin levels as theZone is. This is why I said you are probably trying to compare apples to oranges.
Again, no offense taken and none intended. 8)
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| 10/08/2003 3:40 AM |
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| [quote:f75adbd485]Hi Donna,
No offense taken!
Sorry, but I have to disagree that "we are just working through some terminology". While I do agree you may get the same macronutrient ratio, it does not follow that you will get the same hormonal impact.
Your initial question was about why the eating plans (Zone and Formula), which you described to both be 40/30/'30, are not each recommending the same amount of food for a woman your size.
My reply was that the Zone is not a 40/30/30 diet.
You just stated in this last post that you don't mean to say these diets are the same, but are similar. That's the answer right there to your question about why one eating plan recommends that a person of your size eat more food than the other plan recommends. They are not the same.
Bear in mind the hormonal implications of the Zone. That's what the Zone is all about, eating to keep your insulin between the levels of 5 and 10 on the fasting insulin blood test. Those levels are the definition of the Zone. While I have not read "The Formula", as I have already posted, from your brief description of it, I would doubt that it is based on acheiving precise and measureable insulin levels as theZone is. This is why I said you are probably trying to compare apples to oranges.
Again, no offense taken and none intended.
Sue
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Hello Sue!
Here is a question regarding this very topic posted on this forum which may enlighten us...
Do you have a question for Dr. Sears?
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"40-30-30 and the Zone"
Dear Dr. Sears,
Dr. Sears, I have been following the Formula 40-30-30 diet plan for six months now with great success. I have just received a series of your books as a gift. I have just started reading them. I see similarities in the diet plan I have been on and yours. Is it the same plan? If so, I am delighted as I can now expand on the knowledge you have to offer. I have lost 52 lbs in eight months and feel great. I look forward to hearing from you. Thank you. Elaine
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Dear Elaine,
Dear Elaine, Every diet plan based on a ?40-30-30? balance of macronutrients is derived from my original work first published in 1995. However, the Zone is not static, as it is continually expanding, especially with the introduction of pharmaceutical-grade fish oil.
As we can see, the 40-30-30 balance of macronutrients was derived from Dr Sears' original work published at the time of his writing of Enter the Zone. The two diets are related and IMO are quite similar in many (but not all as we've already covered) ways...and thank goodness for the continued advancements Dr. Sears is making!
I do agree with you that these diets are not exactly the same. I now reference my original recommendation to Michelle (in a previous post) for her husband to consider trying to increase the blocks as they are increased in the Formula book to see if this helps in curbing his hunger. I think this is where our wonderful discussion began...was that about 3 years ago or so? :lol: I did at that time state that the zone blocks were based on "ideal weight and activity level". I do now retract that statement and thank you for your clarification. You did clarify for me that the zone does figure in more blocks for one who is quite overweight because of increased muscle mass due to carrying around extra weight, etc....and that the zone blocks are based on current LBM and activity level. The calculator I used at the time that I was largely overweight did not seem to take this into account. This is where my supposed erroneous thought regarding that statement originated. I apologize.
Please do read the formula book I've spoken of when you get a chance, Sue. It is not the same diet :wink: but it does cover many (but not all) of the same basic concepts as the zone does re: hormonal control, etc. and has many absolutely fantastic "zoned--so to speak" recipes. :wink:
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| Hi Donna,
I came up with the exact post you quoted when searching yesterday for the quote I posted. I chose not to use it because it didn't demonstrate the point I was addressing.
IMHO you have nothing to apologize to me for! :D
Thanks for the book reference. I'll let you know my opinion when find the book.
There's another item you posted to me that I want to clarify, in addition to the 40/30/30 topic.
You wrote:
<<You did clarify for me that the zone does figure in more blocks for one who is quite overweight because of increased muscle mass due to carrying around extra weight, etc....and that the zone blocks are based on current LBM and activity level.>>
It appears you are misinterpreting what I posted regarding this topic. I posted the following:
<<If one is very obese a higher than actual activity level is assumed and additional blocks above those necessary to support current activity level are consumed daily. These additional blocks are necessary because carrying around a large amount of body fat is comparable to strength training on a daily basis. As body fat % lowers, one can eliminate these extra blocks and base their daily need for food on their current LBM and actual activity level. >>
I am [b:9bf82b7c72]not[/b:9bf82b7c72] saying that obese individuals have increased muscle mass due to carrying around excess weight in the form of excess body fat. This may or may not be true depending upon the individual. But it is not related to what I was explaining about assuming higher activity levels for the obese when calculating daily protein and block requirements. Regardless of amount of LBM, a higher than actual activity level is assumed for extremely obese individuals when calculation protein/block requirements.
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| 10/09/2003 2:36 AM |
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| [quote:a32f0934b2]Hi Donna,
I came up with the exact post you quoted when searching yesterday for the quote I posted. I chose not to use it because it didn't demonstrate the point I was addressing.
IMHO you have nothing to apologize to me for!
Thanks for the book reference. I'll let you know my opinion when find the book.
There's another item you posted to me that I want to clarify, in addition to the 40/30/30 topic.
You wrote:
<<You did clarify for me that the zone does figure in more blocks for one who is quite overweight because of increased muscle mass due to carrying around extra weight, etc....and that the zone blocks are based on current LBM and activity level.>>
It appears you are misinterpreting what I posted regarding this topic. I posted the following:
<<If one is very obese a higher than actual activity level is assumed and additional blocks above those necessary to support current activity level are consumed daily. These additional blocks are necessary because carrying around a large amount of body fat is comparable to strength training on a daily basis. As body fat % lowers, one can eliminate these extra blocks and base their daily need for food on their current LBM and actual activity level. >>
I am not saying that obese individuals have increased muscle mass due to carrying around excess weight in the form of excess body fat. This may or may not be true depending upon the individual. But it is not related to what I was explaining about assuming higher activity levels for the obese when calculating daily protein and block requirements. Regardless of amount of LBM, a higher than actual activity level is assumed for extremely obese individuals when calculation protein/block requirements.
Hope this explanation makes it a bit clearer.
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Hi Sue!
You are right. I did remember your post incorrectly. I think I have heard of the somewhat increased muscle mass concept from another source. I really should have looked back at your post to re-read before posting my comment on it....just in a hurry that day. Sorry
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Dr. Barry Sears is a leading authority on the dietary control of hormonal response. A former research scientist at the Boston University School of Medicine and the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, Dr. Sears has dedicated his research efforts over the past 30 years to the study of lipids. He holds 13 U.S. Patents in the areas of intravenous drug delivery systems and hormonal regulation for the treatment of cardiovascular disease.
A turning point in his research occurred in 1982. That year, the Nobel Prize in Medicine was awarded for discoveries of the role that specialized hormones, known as eicosanoids, play in the development of cardiovascular disease, diabetes, auto-immune diseases, and cancer. Since eicosanoids are only generated from dietary fat, Dr. Sears reasoned that one could apply intravenous drug delivery principles to nutrition in order to control these exceptionally powerful hormonal responses with laser-like precision. In essence, his approach treats food as if it were a drug.
This area of his research led to various patents in the area of hormonal control by essentially using food as an oral drug delivery system to modulate eicosanoids especially for cardiovascular, diabetic, and neurological patients.
The impact of Dr. Sears’ revolutionary work in the dietary control of hormonal response began with the publication of his landmark book, The Zone. Since its publication in June 1995, The Zone has sold more than 2,000,000 hardcover copies, and became a #1 best seller on the New York Times book list. In addition, The Zone has been translated into 22 languages indicating a worldwide response to Dr. Sears’ research. His second book, Mastering the Zone, published in 1997, also became a New York Times bestseller with hardcover sales in excess of 500,000 copies to date. His third book, Zone Perfect Meals in Minutes, published in 1997, quickly became one of the best-selling cookbooks of 1997 and an another New York Times bestseller. The Anti-Aging Zone was published in 1999 and provides the molecular insights into how the Zone Diet can reverse the aging process. The Omega Rx Zone, published in 2002, explores the molecular foundation of chronic disease and how high-dose fish oil can dramatically reverse it. His latest book The Anti-Inflammation Zone discusses how to combat silent inflammation in order to reduce the risk of cancer, heart disease, diabetes, dementia, and many other inflammatory conditions—and how to reverse these conditions if they are already present. To date more than 5 million hardcover copies of his Zone books have been sold in the United States.
His research has elevated food from more than simply a source of calories to being recognized as an exceptionally powerful drug. Because of his revolutionary research, Dr. Sears has been a frequent guest on many national programs such as 20/20, Today, Good Morning America, CBS Morning News, CNN, and MSNBC.
Dr. Sears continues his ongoing research as President of Zone Labs, a biotechnology company in Danvers, MA as well as the President of the non-profit Inflammation Research Foundation in Marblehead, MA. In addition to continuing research on the hormonal effects of food, Dr. Sears has expanded his research in developing innovative dietary approaches to treating cancer and neurological conditions, as well as his on-going work in treating cardiovascular diease and type 2 diabetes.
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I have been taking the Fish Oil for over 3 years now. I am 44 playing hockey and working out. The Fish oil helps with the pain that I get from playing hockey. It greatly enhances my performance on the ice and while working out. I have noticed a big difference in my energy, attentiveness and memory. If I miss a day for whatever reason, I notice a huge difference and it feels like something is missing. Anyway that is my short little story and it comes from the heart.
– Carter B.
I am a nutritionist and Ph.D. doctor of health and nutrition. For Dr. Sears to figure out balancing fat, carbs and protein, is really beyond brilliant. It is a milestone in diet history. I go over people's diet/emotional journals. Mostly all the time, we discover that the fatigue, irritability, unstable emotions were due to the imbalance in their diet. Using the Zone to balance them out, helps control weight, roller coaster emotions and gives them energy. Dr. Sears is so right when he says food is medicine. He has figured out the most powerful drug combination going, called The Zone.
Best and healthy wishes,
– Elaine W., Ph.D., N.C., M.A.
I have a very exhausting job as a flight attendant. I read the "Omega Rx Zone" about 4 years ago and started taking the fish oil. I am 47 and have been flying for 22 years. I am very active, I run and lift weights. But combining lack of regular sleep, a physically demanding job, and irregular eating patterns this job takes a toll on the body. Since taking the fish oil, I have noticed that I do not get exhausted. I get tired, but not exhausted. I stopped taking it for a couple of months and then started taking another company's fish oil. I started getting exhausted again. I came back to Zone Labs and will continue with the fish oil for the rest of my life. I believe in the product and it makes a huge difference in my life. It makes a difference with my running as well. I also bring the bars and shakes with me on the road. It is almost impossible to eat the way I should at work. I haven't found the right secret. At least I have my Zone fish oil, bars, and shakes.
– Kathryn S.
I have been in the Zone, for about 1 month now. I wanted to share with you how wonderful I think this program is. I have been a personal trainer for almost 10 years and actively compete in numerous athletic activities. The Zone program has helped me to achieve a better awareness of my nutritional needs and the results I have seen are amazing! I have lost nearly 13 lbs since I have been in the Zone. I feel more mentally alert, more focused at work, have greater intensity during my training, have made significant strength gains, and just feel better over all. With that said, I would like to thank you for helping me in my quest for "super-health"!
Thank you!
– Rob Y.
I read 'The Zone' and as exactly as I could followed the advice for diet. I noted weight loss progress. Over six months, I lost 33 pounds. One year has passed since then. I have maintained the new weight, guided always by Zone concepts. The Zone is powerful - I have found it fantastic and I am very grateful to Dr Sears.
– Lyn S.
Before I stumbled across the Zone I was weighing close to two hundred pounds and I was depressed. I used to be a gymnast as a young man. I would think, "look at me now," when I looked in a mirror. The day I found 'The Zone' book, I was intrigued and as I read it the science made sense and so, I began to follow the "treatment". I began to lose weight and I was feeling way more energetic. I am forty two years old, I am very active and my weight is down to 162 lbs, 38 pounds lost on the Zone. I cycle, walk, jog, swim and I can now perform some of the more simple gymnastic skills I did twenty years ago...I literally feel like I have turned back the clock.
Thank you!
– Jack J.
I have been on the Zone diet for 7 years. I did not go on the diet to lose weight necessarily; but fairly quickly I lost 25 pounds, going from 190 to 165; from a 36-inch waist to a 32-inch waist. I primarily did the Zone to live healthier. My health is excellent now. I just turned 62 years old. My Zone is my eating lifestyle now; I seldom stray; and I do not miss anything. It is The Good Life.
– Curtis Y.
My wife's doctor told her to read "Enter the Zone" and to do the diet, so I told her I would do it with her. After only one week on the plan we went on a strenuous hike (the first of the year), and when we stopped at our favorite coffee shop on the way home I was able to get out of the car and stand upright and walk into the place without pain or stiffness. The Zone had eliminated all the inflammation that had always forced me to stumble all humped over into the coffee shop any time we skied or hiked all day.
Thank you, Doctor Sears.
– Larry C.
I used to have a lot of knee pain when I walked or ran. I have been taking Omega Rx for almost a year now, and rarely have any pain. I believe it is the anti-inflammation action of the oil. I feel smarter as well. Thanks for developing such a superior oil!
– Joe W.
Prior to following the Zone Diet, my body fat was around 15% and my weight around 153 pounds. No matter what I did, my weight and body fat did not change much. I regularly cycled 20-30 hours per week logging well over 400 miles. That had little impact on body fat or weight. Diet also seemed to have little impact on body fat or weight. Within a couple of months of following the zone diet, my weight dropped rather quickly to 142 pounds and body fat to about 8%. I still regularly cycle up to 20 hours per week (during the summer). I have also started strength training. I eat about 16 blocks per day. I take 3.6 grams of fish oil per day, along with Vitamin E, Alpha Lipoic Acid, CoQ10, and B & C vitamins. I also take GLA, which in my opinion, has significantly reduced fatigue and improved recovery times after exercise.
– Jeremy S.
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All polyphenols have antioxidant properties than can be measured by their Oxygen Radical Absorption Capacity (ORAC), but not all polyphenols have anti-inflammatory properties. The polyphenols in Dr. Sears’ Zone Polyphenol Plus have been carefully chosen to have both.
Polyphenols are the phytochemicals that not only give fruits and vegetables their color, but also help regulate inflammation. In addition, polyphenols also activate the key enzyme (AMP kinase) that helps restore cellular ATP levels. Polyphenols also help regulate the activation of inducible inflammatory proteins (such as COX-2 and inflammatory cytokines).
There are more than 4,000 known polyphenols, and the richest sources are fruits and vegetables. In general, the more color a fruit or vegetable has, the richer the polyphenol content.
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Zone Labs’ Ultra Refined Omega-3 Concentrates are three times fresher and contain less than 1/10th the mercury than what is allowed by the Norwegian Medicinal Standard and European Pharmacopoeia Standard
Zone Labs adheres to the International Fish Oil Standard (IFOS), an independent third party validated laboratory quality standard that is more rigid than any other global standard for purity.
- No company in the worlds runs more tests with IFOS than Zone Labs
- Zone Labs receives a 5 out of 5 star IFOS rating for every batch it tests
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| Standard |
IFOS Standard for a 5-Star Ranking |
Council for Responsible Nutrition |
European Pharmacopeia |
Norwegian Medicinal Standards |
| Peroxide |
< 3.75 meg/kg |
5 meg/kg |
10 meg/kg |
10 meg/kg |
| Totox Levels |
< 20 meg/kg |
26 meg/kg |
NA |
NA |
| Lead |
< 10 ppb |
10 ppb |
100 ppb |
100 ppb |
| Mercury |
< 10 ppb |
10 ppb |
100 ppb |
100 ppb |
| Dioxans and Furans |
< 1 ppt |
2 ppt |
2 ppt |
2 ppt |
| PCBs |
< 45 ppb |
90 ppb |
NA |
NA |
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"IFOS – THE TOP GLOBAL PURITY STANDARD FOR OMEGA-3 FROM FISH"
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Zone Labs products show no detectable lead or mercury when tested down to 10ppb, which is 10 times below the Norwegian Medicinal Standard and European Pharmacopoeia Standard limits.
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Zone Labs products are three times fresher than the minimum allowed by the Norwegian Medicinal Standard and European Pharmacopoeia Standards (based on average peroxide values).
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Zone Labs starts with only wild, small fish from pristine Chilean waters and ends with proprietary validation and testing processes to achieve an IFOS certified 5 star rating.
8-Step Manufacturing Process - Quality Assured
Testing to specification all raw materials, bulk products, packaging material and finished products – always using stringent internal standards and in-process testing.
- Extraction of fish oil
- Winterization – remove limited amounts of saturated fats
- Absorption – remove heavy metals
- Preliminary Molecular Distillation – refining “touch up” to reduce contaminants
- Oil conversion to ethyl esters
- Ethyl ester thermal fractionation – remove additional saturated fats
- True Molecular Distillation – final refining to remove pcb’s and long-chain monoenes
- Rigid Processes – proprietary validation, inspection and encapsulation methods. Independent lab verification of IFOS requirements and certified 5 star rating
No farmed fish. No large fish. Pristine waters.
Zone Labs starts with wild sardines & anchovies fished from cold, pristine waters off of South America where there are less environmental impurities.
A recommended serving of Zone Labs Ultra-Refined Concentrates delivers 8 times more omega-3’s than a typical retail fish oil supplement.
Most fish oil supplements have 30% or less of the healthy omega-3s EPA and DHA, with the remaining 70% of the capsule containing unbeneficial, lesser refined fatty acids that contribute to their bad taste and gastric side effects.
Getting a clinically valid dose of omega-3’s is easy with Zone Labs’ Ultra-Refined Omega-3 Concentrates.
Typical Retail Dose = 300mg omega-3
Standard Zone Dose = 2400mg omega-3
A serving of canned tuna has 12 times less omega-3’s than
Zone Labs Ultra-Refined Omega-3 Concentrates
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Commonly consumed fish and shellfish in the United States
Mercury Source: Food and Drug Administration, FDA 1900-2004, “National Marine Fisheries Service Survey of Trace Elements in the Fishery Resource". Omega-3 Level Source: American Heart Association Website.
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Mercury level
in parts per million (ppm) |
Omega-3 fatty acids
(milligrams per 3-oz. serving) |
| Zone Omega-3 Products |
< 0.01 |
2400 (standard 4 capsule serving |
| Salmon (fresh, frozen) |
0.014 |
1200 |
| Flounder or sole |
0.050 |
480 |
| Pollock |
0.041 |
450 |
| Crab |
0.060 |
400 |
| Scallops |
0.050 |
290 |
| Shrimp |
ND* |
290 |
| Catfish |
0.050 |
270 |
| Clams |
ND* |
250 |
| Cod |
0.095 |
210 |
| Canned Tuna (light) |
0.120 |
200 |
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Zone Labs’ leading product. OmegaRx delivers all of the benefits of Zone Labs’ ultra-refined omega-3 concentrates.
Advantages
- Delivers clinically proven health benefits from the omega-3 fatty acids EPA and DHA*
- Promotes a healthy heart, healthy brain, healthy immune system, healthy circulatory system, healthy joints, healthy moods, healthy triglyceride levels and a healthy pregnancy*
- Combats silent inflammation
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