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Cranberrycat User is Offline
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11/10/2008 11:04 AM
And, not to mention that spending the money on GOOD food is much better than spending it on medications later in life.

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11/10/2008 4:21 PM
Hi Angela,
I have found that frozen pollack, from Walmart, is a bargain. It is as mild as tilapia. Also, frozen salmon can be had cheaply. As for the entire grocery bill, it is lower than ever before because I no longer buy prepared foods - I cook from scratch. That makes a huge difference. I also plan what I will cook everyday and then check my recipes for the things I need to make those meals and make my list. I buy nothing extra, only the items on the list. It takes a lot of discipline to do this, but for me it is worth the few minutes it takes to plan the meals. Spaghetti sauce - get some basil, some garlic, some good wine (have to add a cup to the pot, and make your own. It's one of the cheapest things to make. Buying ready made is way too expensive and most ready made foods do have sugar in them. Pretty much any ingredient that ends with "ose" is a sugar. Also, try a food coop. If you can do bulk ordering with other coop members, your grocery bill will get way smaller and you and your family will get way healthier.
For good recipes, I watch the food network at times, print out some recipes from their web site and make substitutions so that the meal is still Zone worthy. Have learned many money saving tricks from those shows.
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And as Rachael says - a small chest freezer really helps and they are not very expensive.
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11/18/2008 10:02 AM
This is a great idea for a post! Here are a few tips from me:
- Buy in bulk. Most "natural food" stores sell grains, beans, nuts and textured vegetable protein in bulk. The one I frequent also sells bulk tofu and olive oil (bring your own containers).
- Buy the dry beans and soak overnight before cooking. Tastier, saves a lot of money and also better for the environment than buying canned.
- Buy milk and eggs at the drug store. The CVS and Walgreen's stores near me often sell a gallon of milk for $2 and a dozen eggs for $1.
- Check out ethnic stores. I get yummy dried red lentils and chickpeas, plus spices, yogurt and inexpensive vegetables at the local Indian/Middle Eastern grocery store.
- Frozen fruits are great and cheap in the winter, if you live in a climate where berries are expensive freshout of season.
- Revive the root cellar. When I can get fruits and veggies that keep well without refrigeraton on sale, I buy a bunch and store them in the coldest part of my basement. I have a bunch of pears, apples, onions, garlic and squash down there now to enjoy all winter. (I keep this stuff in a homemeade mouse-proof cabinet with doors covered in chicken wire.)

Finally, remember that eating poorly used to cost you! I used to think nothing of spending $5 or more on a restaurant dessert - so if I splurge for a $3 half-pint of blackberries, so what!
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11/18/2008 11:48 AM
Diane,
You have some really good ideas, but I think your last comment should be highlighted. Eating poorly will cost in the end, as it will affect general health.

I think nothing of spending a few extra dollars to buy some seafood at the grocery store. I would pay a LOT more if I were to go to a restaurant and have someone make it for me (I thought about that as I fed scallops to my family last night).

I also buy dry beans, and I also buy frozen fruit. I agree, saves a lot of money!

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12/07/2008 9:26 AM
There are some wonderful tips here! Thanks to all who posted. I copied the tips into a word document.
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12/30/2008 5:31 PM
I am just curious, and maybe not really the place to post this but...I would like to get my family to start this with me. I have a hubby and a 13 1/2 year old daughter. It's not the daughter that is the problem, it is the hubby. My daughter is pretty open minded and will try just about anything and does enjoy eating healthy. My hubby however is a carb-a-holic. His idea of a veggie is corn! He will not eat veggies. If it is green, he won't eat it. The closest thing to green I can even remotely get him to eat is green peppers if they are chopped up in something. Onion, mushroom, anything like that he'll spend 30 min of mealtime trying to pick them all out. It's like living with a 2 year old when it comes to eating! I had never seen an adult eat like him, until him! What do I do??? Any suggestions???<img src='http://www.zonediet.com/desktopmodules/ntforums/images/emoticons/unsure.gif' height='20' width='20' border='0' title='Unsure' align='absmiddle'>

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12/30/2008 6:55 PM
Hi Kelly

I know quite a few people at my work who HATE and I mean HATE veggies. One of the ladies who hates veggies is morbidly obese - she would easily need to loose around 120lbs. My daughter and I tried to come up with some suggestions of how to hide the veggies for her but she didnt take to any of them. I am not going to tell her what to do - her life.

These are some of the suggestions: Soup - you can get at least 10 veggies in a soup! Put it through the food processor and he wont know what he is eating - sometimes I add a little Lite Carnation milk at the end to make it "creamy". What about veggie and meat/chicken pizza - I use flat bread - we call it Lebanese bread in Australia. There are stir fries. What about crustless quiche? You can hide some spinach, tomato, zucchini in there - cut up finely. There is also lasagne which CC was talking about in one of the posts where she used zucchini instead of the lasagne sheets. Phyllo pastry - there arent many carbs in that - you could wrap veggies and cooked chicken then bake. What about spices? My sister has started using Moroccan spices. Smells so nice. I love veggies so dont understand how some can be disgusted by them!

Dont say another word about the Zone to your husband. You and your daughter can talk about it but do it when your husband is not around - tell her all the benefits and also tell her not to nag your husband about doing the Zone. As you said - he is like a 2 year old - well .... serve him up the same food as you and your daughter - give him a bigger serving - if he doesnt eat - he goes without or he can get something else - just like a 2 year old. You dont know - he might have had a lot of eating issues with his family growing up. One of my friends husband wouldnt let their girls leave the table unless they had eaten every single morsel - they are in their 30s now and still remember the awful time at the kitchen table .... The more you try to persuade people to eat a different way the more they will refuse! Dont stess yourself out. You and your daughter get into the Zone and maybe he will see how healthy and energetic you are and might even come around. Is he overweight?

Margaret

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12/30/2008 8:38 PM
He needs to lose about 15#. His is mainly around the middle.

Kelly


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12/30/2008 8:42 PM
Also, if he can see it he is not eating it, no zuchinni noodles, no spinach in quiche, no tomatoes unless it is ketchup, spaghetti sauce or a really watery (not chunky) salsa. I could probably get away with pureeing stuff. I did that in meatloaf with carrots and broccoli once and he didn't notice. Unless my daughter spills the beans!

Kelly


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12/30/2008 9:17 PM
Great suggestions, Margaret!

Kelly, that is exactly what I was going to suggest you do. Puree veggies in chicken/turkey burgers, lean hamburgers, meatloaf, etc. In the chicken/turkey burgers, try putting some low-fat cheese in the middle to melt - he probably won't even realize what you've done. I wish you luck, Kelly! He's a lucky man to have you as his wife.

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12/30/2008 9:19 PM
Kelly, I meant to add ... don't puree green or red peppers. The flavor comes through too strongly. I know ... my mom tried it on me and it didn't work! LOL!

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12/30/2008 10:24 PM
LOL, Karen!

Margaret, those are really good suggestions.

I would probably take the "tough love" stance and prepare the food. If he doesn't like it, he doesn't have to eat it.

LOL!

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12/30/2008 11:46 PM
CC, I don't believe you for one second! I can't even begin to imagine you pulling the tough love stance on Aaron! LOL!

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01/02/2009 12:05 AM
LOL!

Really, though, I don't have to take the tough love stance because I am lucky enough to have a man who enjoys my cooking, no matter what I make! So, he doesn't miss his pasta and potatoes.

The only thing is that he is on his own in August, when sweet corn is in season here! He just loves it, and it is really the only time of year to get decent fresh corn on the cob. So, he eats his sweet corn (that he buys himself, not me!). And, I eat my yummy home grown tomatoes.

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01/02/2009 12:27 AM
Oh, CC, I know what you mean about fresh sweet corn up north in late July/ August. Soooo sweet and delicious. It doesn't tempt me down here - definitely not flavorful like up north. When my sister came down here in 8/07, I asked her to bring me some because I miss it so much - airport security took it away from her! Darn! Growing up we would have meals of just sweet corn and tomatoes! (I only ate the sweet corn - would hate to fill up on tomatoes! LOL!)

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01/02/2009 12:56 AM
Yes, we used to have meals like that! No meat at all, just sweet corn and tomatoes!

Now, of course, must have some protein with it, to even have a chance at staying in the Zone (plenty of fat dripping off the cob after it has been drizzled in butter).

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01/02/2009 11:27 AM
Oh don't you know it, CC, it was not a balanced Zone meal at all! I used to always have two ears of corn and one of them always had to be raw with nothing on it. My mom and dad could never understand how I liked it that way. The other one was cooked with a little melted butter and salt. YUMMO! Well, those days of eating like that are over, and I really don't miss it now. I'm just enjoying how I feel eating in the Zone!

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01/02/2009 11:04 PM
LOL! Really, I don't miss it much, either. I will go for the tomatoes, though! I can't go through summer without those home-grown tomatoes.

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01/04/2009 2:16 PM
Great topic with lots of good ideas.

Bulk items are available even in regular groceries around here, so check your local grocery before going to health food stores.

I noticed that decreasing my meat intake resulted in cheaper grocery bills until I got a raise and decided I deserved the best Whole Foods had to offer<img src='http://www.zonediet.com/desktopmodules/ntforums/images/emoticons/cool.gif' height='20' width='20' border='0' title='Cool' align='absmiddle'>

BTW, I figured out that buying boneless, skinless chicken breast although it appears more expensive isn't, no waste. When I weighed the waste from buying a whole chicken and took out the fatter dark meat, it was more expensive than the breasts alone. I was able to use the bones and dark meat to make chicken stock, but over all the breasts yielded the best buy.

Also if you buy whole eggs on sale, they are much cheaper than egg beater products, just separate the yolks, if you have pets, the yolks can be added to their food so even that isn't wasted.

As for the omega oil, Consumer Report about 3 yrs. ago, said it is all the same according to their tests, so look for it at the big box stores. And salmon in the can has lots of Omega3 and is much cheaper than fresh salmon. Don't by the super cheap fresh farm grown salmon, too much bad stuff in those. Salmon patties can be cooked up in large batches for easy meal prep later.

Ethnic groceries are good places to find olive oil and sesame oil also beans and other green grocery items you might not have in a regular grocery and they are usually pretty inexpensive too.

As for the guy who won't eat his veggies, fine let him cook his own meals, see how long he plays the 2 yr. old. Sorry I have no tolerance for adults who do not eat their veggies, they just need to grow up and act like adults. My husband thought he hated veggies, just turned out he hated how his mom had over cooked everything when he was a kid. He loves everything but brussel sprouts now. I can live with that. He now loves fresh spinach now, I can take that or leave it, I like it cooked.<img src='http://www.zonediet.com/desktopmodules/ntforums/images/emoticons/tongue2.gif' height='20' width='20' border='0' title='Tongue' align='absmiddle'>
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01/04/2009 6:19 PM
Hi, Joell!

Good points! I especially enjoyed your discussion about the chix breasts, I had not thought of it that way before. I also think that whole eggs are cheaper than egg beaters, even if they are not on sale. I think I can buy a 18-pack for less price as a container of egg beaters, and even after separating, I think I would get comparable # servings. Not sure, but probably very close.

I had not heard that about the consumer report on fish oil. I bet that is available online, so will look for it.

LOL about the veggies! I bet most men who don't like their veggies are the same, they don't know what a good veggie tastes like; they just remember that cooked broccoli that isn't even green anymore!

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