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Ashley 
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| 06/23/2008 1:00 PM |
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Hi all,
I had a couple of quick questions.
1. Everyone keeps mentioning about drinking green tea. I thought we weren't supposed to have caffiene. Doesn't green tea have caffiene in it?
2. I have been doing the chili and mandarin chicken salad from Wendy's mostly during the week because my schedule is so hectic and has worked great for me convenience wise. I have been putting the almonds and the dressing on but not the crispy noodles. Is this right, or I am just supposed to do the salad minus everything else.
Thanks a bunch!!! |
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Em
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| 06/23/2008 1:12 PM |
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| You can buy any tea with no caffeine... Green tea is great for you. has tons of intioxidants! |
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Matthew
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| 06/23/2008 3:18 PM |
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1. Caffeine should be avoided because, unlike most stimulants which suppress hunger, caffeine stimulate hunger by stimulating an insulin response.
Nearly all teas can be bought decaffeinated. This does not mean that they are caffeine free. Consumer Reports did a story recently on decaf coffees. They found that coffees which claimed to be decaffeinated did not necessarily have low or even lower caffeine and that they were all over the map in terms of how much caffeine. In the US, there is no standard for how much caffeine a beverage must have for it to be considered decaffeinated. I suspect teas are much the same since there is no standard.
I am fairly sensitive to caffeine and avoid it all together, but if it does not bother you much, decaf is a good way to go. I honestly don't know how much of the antioxidants get washed away in the decaffeinating process.
2. The mandarin chicken salad and small chili together have:
44g protein
69g carbohydrates
32g fat
Wendy's website has this information nicely accessible. Removing the rice noodles is a good start as this probably accounts for a good portion of the carbohydrates. The oranges may be packed in light syrup and are certainly another source of carbs. Wendy's menu does not really break the salad apart. However, Arbys toasted asian noodles have 14g of carbs and 3g fat (http://www.nutritiondata.com/facts/foods-from-arbys/7880/2) and this is probably a good estimate. That would make it:
44g protein
55g carbs
29g fat
So, that's about 6 blocks of protein, 6 blocks of carbs and 10 blocks of fat. Definitely heavy on the fat (using less dressing could help reduce this) and it's likely too much food for most people.
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Ashley
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| 06/23/2008 3:59 PM |
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| Thanks Matthew...I guess I should have worded that a little better. I am doing the small chili for lunch and the salad as dinner. I printed that from the eating section on here, but it doesn't say if you can keep the almonds and do the dressing etc. |
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Ashley
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| 06/23/2008 4:00 PM |
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| Thanks Em! I am doing the chili as my lunch and the salad for dinner. I forgot to mention that in my orginal post. Any inputs on the salad? I printed that from the eating section on here for fast food. |
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E.Wally
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| 06/23/2008 5:20 PM |
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HI There,
In looking into this and the responses I've run into something quite interesting :
As with Matthew I [ apparently ] also use the Nutrition Data website's "Pantry" tool for food nutritional analysis. I love the tool and use it frequently...
However, if you go to :
http://www.nutritiondata.com/facts/foods-from-wendys/6839/2
and compare it with :
http://www.wendys.com/food/Nutrition.jsp
... there is very large difference between what is being reported as the nutritional content of the mandarin Chicken Salad !
ONE THING that accounts for some of it is the "portion" amount beinf reported by the two websites - the one at Nutrition Data is less by 50 g.
Interestingly if you scroll down to almost the bottom of the ND page there is a note indicating the data on this has been suppleid by Wendy's !!!!!!
Perhaps even more interesting is the fact that as you can see - as reported at ND there are less than HALF the carbs in it than at Wendy's site !!!!
Letting my suspicious brain advance a few clicks I wonder if Wendy's deliberatly mis-reported the data ?
Why be so suspicious ?
You can bet that if ND reported data in a way detrimental to Wendy;s their lawyers would be on them in a flash.
That is exaclty why there is a note at ND that the data was supplied by Wendy's - so they are not responsible in case of error.
In this way if someone notices the descrepancy [ like we just did ] and complain to Wendy's - guarantee you they will blame it on ND.
I firmly believe the data at the Wendy's site is the correct data.
Which now means I am going to have to check at the source's website to see if it is about the same and not just at ND.
By the way - I really like the ND site and will continue to use it - I trust THEIR data - not so sure about as reported by the major food chains. They are in businesss to make money - not friends.
To get back to your original questions about the Mandarin Salad etc :
After looking at the nutritional content of the noodles I would definatley drop as much of them off as possible. It is where a LOT of the carbs come from and it's all highly processed from the worst ingredients.
Here's something I do all the time that may be of help :
1 I bring my own salad dressing with me - really. {Do you think I'm nuts ? ! ]
Almost ALL "packaged" salad dressings at ALL chain food is BAD.
They even will go to amazing lengths sometimes to "rope you in" on this. For example, [ wish I could remember which one it was - it was one of the places at the "food court" at the mall ] I noticed they had some salad dressings marked "with Olive Oil" .
Wow - I thought.
Checked out the "ingredients". Made "with Olive Oil" all right - Olive oil was the LAST INGREDIENT listed - that means it was the lowest in amount of content !!!
# 1 ingredient was "soybean oil"
Do you see what you are up against ?
You will find several offerings in the salad aisle of the super of salad dresssings in individual packets you can carry around.
This may appear to be much ado about nothing but it's hardly the case :
Any salad dressing that contains "oil" in some form will be very "calorie dense". Oils probably have more calories per gram than anythging else !!!
ANY salad dressing - even let's say Olive Oil with vinegar - has to be used carefully, in limited amounts.
Nutritionally Olive oil is wonderfull for you - but the calories are there none the less.
Same with almonds - great nutritionally but about 3 or 4 with a meal will give you all the good fats you need.
INcidentally - I have brought my own salad dressing everywhere - sometimes in the bottle! - and I have never been questioned about it in any way.
Again - why the big deal about the salad dressing ?
I have encountered many, many, people that decide to do something about their diet and 9 out of 10 will switch to eating lots of salads - especially when eating at "the chains" - and instead of the cheesburger [double cheesburger ] they take a salad and SLATHER it in salad dressing.
Typically they end up with something containing about DOUBLE the calories of the cheesburger and LOADED with all the "bad fats".
No wonder they get on the scale after a week of that and are astounded they've GAINED weight.
Did I claim they would be better off with the DOUBLE CHEESEBURGER ? !!!
Yup.
Believer it or not, last time I checked, the DOUBLE cheeseburger at Mac's was about dead on "balanced" as far as CARBS AND PROTEIN!!!!!!
Ok - so the "fats" are mostly the wrong kind and about double what they should be - Why do you think they call it "double" ? !!!!
[ only kidding ]
If you compare this with the result of dumping a couple of packets of packages of their salad dressings made with all the wrong oils you would find about the same amount of fats but the double cheeseburger dead on balanced for the carbs and protein.
Hey - "two out of three ain't bad" !! [ as the song goes ]
Wally
OK - so the carbs are mostly in the bun which is pure processed carbs. and the fats are from the meat and of poor quality - but - it is quite "balanced" to the Zone !!!!
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