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01/07/2007 1:10 AM
Greetings all! I'm new here, as the subject states. I was just introduced to the Zone diet in November of last year and have read 'Enter the Zone' and flipped through both 'The Top 100 Zone Foods' and "Mastering the Zone'. I really need to re-read a lot as I don't have everything absorbed as of yet. I'm also interested in reading the Anti-Inflammation zone.

As of 1/1 I weighed 370 (yikes! I know!) thankfully I'm fairly tall so that makes that *gulp* slightly more bearable. Since the first I've given up drinking soda (a HUGE addiction) and I've tried to make sure that I always eat protein, carbs, and a small amount of fat although I'm not quite to the 'block' stage. I'm amazed that I don't really have cravings - surprising even though it's clearly stated in the book! My mental clarity, while not crystal clear has improved, and I no longer have the strong desire to nap my day away and this is only day 6! :D

My pants are already fitting better and I've lost slightly over 5 lbs. but I expect that is water-weight.

At any rate, I'm quite excited about learning more about the Zone and using the forum in my quest!

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01/07/2007 2:09 PM
Hi,

Welcome and congrats on your progress so far. Since you haven't yet figured out your block requirement, here's a tip. For people fo your wt, the calculator o the sit eiwll nt be accurate. Dr Sears had advised that people of your size assume 50% body fat (translates also to 50 % of your total wt being LBM) and an activity level factor two levels above your actual activity for block calculations. The activity factors can be found on page 8 of "Mastering the Zone". Multiply the activity factor times your assumed LBM to find you daily protein ecommendation in grams. Then divide by 7 to get your recommended number of daily blocks(7 g P in each block). It will probably be a much greater number of blocks than you're expecting, but as you lose excess stored fat, you can periodically recalculate bolck amounts. It's important to eat teh recommended daily P amount to prevent loss of LBM. Loss of LBM translated to less ability to burn excess stored fat.

You can succeed in the Zone. I lost 100 lb over two yrs time about 12-13 yrs ago and have kept it off. I went form size 22 to size 8. With the Zone I was also able toget off 2 blood pressure meds.

Keep in touch!

sue

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01/08/2007 4:45 PM
Hi & thanks for the reply! I found an online calculator here on the site which gave me the block count of 13 daily. I've also printed out the food block guide so I'm on my way!

In 2002-2003 I was lucky enough to lose 75 lbs, I weighed slightly over 320 initially and weighed 245 at my lightest and I felt FABULOUS! Unfortunately, I'm an emotional eater so that went down the drain in the subsequent years. I'm really excited about the zone although it's going to be a huge undertaking because I absolutely do not like seafood, at all, nor do I really care for eggs. Throw out half the 'ideal' protein sources!

Congrats on your weight loss, Sue! That's really fantastic!
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01/08/2007 6:22 PM
Hi,

13 blocks is too low for you. Like I said, the online calculator will not give you an appropriate recommendation at this point in time because of your specific weight. Your minimum number of blocks for now woulld be more like 18, if you're sedentary. If you exercise, then it will be more than 18, determine by the amont of time you spend exercising. Reread my pervious post to you for the details. If you're still unsure, maybe others will chime in here and lend you some confidence in my recommendation...Scott, Jenny? ...feel free!

sue

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01/08/2007 6:24 PM
Hi, me again! Forgot to say...

Thanks!

Also, it's not necessry to eat seafood or eggs to be in the Zone , so no biggie that you dont like them. :)

sue

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01/08/2007 8:41 PM
Hi! Welcome aboard--

I must agree with Sue, I have read that the bodyfat calculator is not going to be accurate to determine the number of blocks at your weight. I would go with her recommendations, as she outlined. At 13 blocks, you will not get enough protien to support your lean body mass, and your body will probably go into starvation mode.

Also, seafood and eggs are just the tip of the iceberg--you can find lots of other alternatives for protein sources. Chix breast, turkey, lean beef, bison, ostrich, venison, tofu, and protein powder. Don't forget skim milk and yogurt as combo protein/carb choices, and cottage cheese. :cool:

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01/08/2007 10:54 PM
Hi Isoserenity, and WELCOME!

I, too, checked over your blocks based on the
info given, and came up quite close to what
Sue did (a slight difference, no big deal).
You need at LEAST 19 blocks if sedentary, and
as she stated Dr. Sears says to go up a
couple of levels when at a "higher" weight in
the beginning, meaning you'll need more than
19 blocks almost certainly. Protein can't be
stressed enough, as is it the foundation of
the Zone, and "Mastering the Zone" is
a truly helpful book. Follow Sue's
suggestions for calculating your blocks, using
50% LBM (and ~50% fat), and you'll find your
very close block requirements.

I wish you great success, it sounds as if you
are already getting into the groove to a
certain extent already, but PLEASE don't rely
on the site calculator: just as Sue advised.
It simply does not work over a certain
weight level. When you get down some, after a
period of time of truly learning to get
INTO THE ZONE, and after you've dropped a
fair bit of weight, you'll be able
to use the calculator on here (which will be
a good bit easier by just plugging in your
numbers!). Remember to keep track of your
measurements, too, they'll show your changes
much more accurately than any scale will (as
will how your clothes fit!).

It's good that you've already started to lose
some weight, even though you are quite aware
water weight comes off first, especially when
one is heavier to begin with.

Many good wishes, feeling better, more
energy, success: you're on your way! :)

RedButterfly (Cheryl)
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01/10/2007 9:13 AM
Hi,

My reccommendation for 18 blocks already takes into account bumping you the activity level two levels above sedentary (activity factor for sedentary is 0.5, and for two levels higher is 0.7). It was calculated as follows:

50% of 365 pounds is 182.5 pounds.

182.5 times 0.7 equals 127.75 (This is the recommended daily protein requirement.)

127.75 divided by 7 equals 18.25. (this is the daily block requirement.)

It shouldn't be necessary for you (isoserenity) to go above 18 blocks. One should consume the least number of blocks necessary to provide the required protein and acheive satiety. 18 blocks sould be sufficient in this case. If you find difficulty with hunger, adjusting to carb and/or fat will take care of it.

I'll be glad to help you with adjustments if needed. Also, just to let you know, I'll be unavailable for a week or two beginning This coming Monday, Jan. 15. In the meantime, I'm sure others here will be glad to help, too.

sue :)


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01/10/2007 9:20 AM
P.S.

Sorry for the typos in my previous post! (I have keyboard challenged fingers :w00t:, lol)

If anyone's been able to figure out a way to edit their existing posts in these new forums, please let me know!

sue

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01/12/2007 5:55 PM
Sue and Cheryl-RedButterfly:

I was just reading the replies that the two of you posted above, and I was just wondering, with the confusion of whether or not to use the bodyfat calculator and the fact that both of you seem to sound like you know the Zone well, how does a newbie like me get it?

I will definitely continue to read on!
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02/03/2007 11:14 PM
I don't know why but I've tried to reply to this several times and can never get a message to post!

Well, bad news...I've NOT been able to follow the guidelines very well at all. I'm still avoiding caffeine but I have had 2 clear pops in the past few days...grrrr! It's a lot more difficult to get Zone favorable meals & snacks ready for work than I had anticipated. Right now I'm eating a lot of dairy (I know, it's not ideal but I've always been a dairy person.) 2% milk, mozza cheese sticks, part-skim, & LF cottage cheese and trying to add carbs to that, mostly in the form of applesauce, lately. I've been eating almonds for my fat source, whole, ouch! I have TMJ so they're KILLING my jaw. **note to self, next time, buy sliced almonds or stick with olives!

I'll get my first official paycheck from my new job on the 12th and the first thing I'm going to do is go grocery shopping!

Now if only I could find a reasonably priced treadmill!

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02/05/2007 11:03 AM
[quote]Posted By Sunny on 01/12/2007 5:55 PM

Sue and Cheryl-RedButterfly:

I was just reading the replies that the two of you posted above, and I was just wondering, with the confusion of whether or not to use the bodyfat calculator and the fact that both of you seem to sound like you know the Zone well, how does a newbie like me get it?

I will definitely continue to read on![/quote]


Hi Sunny,

There's no confusion in regard to the Body Fat Calculator. Simply stated there's a limited number of numerical factors built into it, and if one's personal statistics lie beyond the extent of those factors, one is usually advised to make the assumptions I outlined in order to calculate both their protein and their block requirements

We were all newbies once upon a time! Just dive in using the info you've learned, and do your best. Everyone goes through trial and error to find what works well. Read all you can, and ask as many qns as you need!

Best wishes!

sue

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02/05/2007 11:34 AM
Hi ISOserenity,

You're off to a good start. With a few adjustments you'll be in the Zone in no time. I agree it would not be best not to rely heavily on dairy, and applesauce. Try to think meat, poultry, fish, eggs, and veggies.

Some easy to chew fat sources:

almond butter, avocados, olive oil, peanut butter, macadamia nut butter

It needn't be difficult to bring snacks and meals to work. You can go with totally prepared foods, or you can quickly put together your own meals with very little time or work. Here are some suggestions.

1 Block Snacks:

roll up 1/4 cup hummus in 1 1/2 oz of deli turkey

discard the yolks of 2 hardboiled eggs and use 1/4 cup hummus to fill the eggs

mix 1/2 cup plain yogurt with a little almond or vanilla extract and 1 teaspoon almond butter

1/4 cup cottage cheese mixed or topped with chopped avocado, 1 chopped tomato and 1/4 cup salsa

cottage cheese and grapes (or blueberries) with slivered almonds

3 block meals that transport well to work:

Assuming you have access to a microwave at work:

Zone meals by Cedarlane (found in the frozen foods section of the grocery store).

OR

Lean Cuisine Roasted Turkey and Vegetables (or Lean Cuisine Baked Chicken Florentine) plus a block of apple or berries and 1/2 cup yogurt with almond butter for "dessert".

If no microwave:

Ready prepared cooked cold chicken (baked yourself or "Perdue Shortcuts") cut fresh veggies ( cut yourself, or ready cut packages), 1/2 apple, and some nuts or nut butter.

Easier still, canned sardines, a couple tomatoes, fresh pepper or carrot strips, and 1/2 apple or pear.

To make prep easier, you could keep nuts at work to add to snacks for fat.


If you have a cafeteria, buy the chicken Ceasar salad with an apple.

And there's always Zone shakes, bars, and cereal from Zone Labs to have on hand to easily stay in the Zone.

Use your imagination! The combinations of foods in the Zone are limitless.

sue














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02/17/2007 6:20 PM
I am a newbie as well....in fact, I just registered on this site tonite. I had heard about the Zone from a work colleague. I'm 49, female and I am feeling the effects of menopause, thickening of the waist and a slowing metabolism. I do not quite understand the body fat calculator. My calculation was 11 blocks.....so this means 11 blocks of protein/per day??? With each block of protein, I add 1 block of fat and 1 block of carbs???? Thanks for sharing any clarification of what the calculator means.

Cindy from Ontario, Canada

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02/19/2007 8:51 PM
Yep, sounds like you are getting it! 11 blocks of protein accompanied with 11 blocks of carb and 11 blocks of fat.

Each meal can be 3 blocks in size, and each snack can be 1 block in size. So, for instance, you might have 3 oz of chix breast served with a plateful of veggies (3 blocks carbs) and sprinkled with some slivered almonds (about 3 tsp). And, if your chix breast is very lean, then you could probably double the fat. A snack might be a stick of lowfat string cheese, a 1/2 cup of grapes and 3 almonds.

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02/24/2007 9:39 AM
hello everyone.....

I've been in the zone for about 3 weeks now, and I can't be more satisfied.....

I was wondering if any of the nice people here can help me with my daily protein needs. I weigh 220 pounds and I am for now, sedentary. I am 6 ft tall, if that makes any diference.....

By reading these pages, I calculated that I need 11 blocks of protein. Was I wrong? I don't want my LBM to decrease....
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