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Jeffrey  Posts:237
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| 12/06/2007 9:21 PM |
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hi all, my protein powder says it is not for kids under 18. I use chocolate or vanilla flavored EAS protein powder from Costco. It is pretty standard stuff. there is no creatine it or anyting like that. is this a hard and fast rule or can i mix up some "chocolate milk" (protein powder flavored with splenda) to offset some of the carbs my 7 year old is eating? thanks. |
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Colin  Posts:162
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| 12/07/2007 6:38 AM |
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I'd love to be able to answer your question Jeffrey but I've managed to get by without the protein powder for my kid. Fortunately she's not too fussy with her food.
I strongly suspect there's no good reason for the under 18 limitation, other than it absolves the manufacturer of any liability. If anything, kids need protein more than adults as they are still growing. Have you tried contacting the manufacturer and asking them for an explanation? |
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cheril  Posts:181
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| 12/07/2007 7:40 PM |
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| I do Splenda for myself but would never offer it to a kid (I don't have one). I also would never ever offer a kid a aspartame. Again, I do ingest myself. If you have unsweetened stuff and can sweeten it with stevia or applesauce, etc. the unsweetened protein powder won't hurt. I'm sure that there are worse thing to worry over as a parent...but to me the artificial sweeters (I do include Splenda in that) are yucky. When my niece visits we have snack time with string cheese, apples and either peanut butter or cashews or (more fun) pistachios. Again, I don't have a kid but if you offer better choices rather than try to offset the carbs it may be healthier trying to balance the carbs. How about turkey jerky or something w/tofu or cottage cheese tossed into an ice-cream milk shake? Yes, I don't have children so it's easy for my thought process... |
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Cranberrycat  Posts:5306
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| 12/07/2007 9:03 PM |
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As a mother of 3 children, I would (and have) definitely use protein powder. However, I am picky about what the ingredients are. The less, the better. I would rely on the Zone protein powder that is sold here, or Jay Robb's. Otherwise, I do a lot of label shopping, and if I don't like what is on the label, I don't get it. Speaking of other snacks, I also offer protein with our snacks for the kids. And, my kids LOVE nuts! |
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Sue K  Posts:8551
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| 12/08/2007 10:11 AM |
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| JMO, but I'd say it's better not to feed a child EAS because of the aritficial sweetener it contains, and also because of the food dyes in some of the flavors. It's best for both children and adults to avoid consuming artificial ingredients whenever a viable alternaitve exists (note that I leave leeway; never say never!). |
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Colin  Posts:162
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| 12/10/2007 2:48 AM |
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There's a couple of interesting points on this thread. First, the artificial sweetner / aspartame issue. In the UK this is simple not discussed. All diet drinks (Diet Coke, Pepsi, Fanta etc), and many ordinary foods, use aspartame as a matter of course. (Yes Cat, I also label shop, a lot!)
I've even seen aspartame added to surprising foods like pickled onions, beetroot, jalapeno peppers etc! I know there's an alleged cancer link in the US to aspartame, but for whatever reason, that risk hasn't made it across the pond.
Nuts is the other one. My daughter is the most well adjusted 6 year old I know when it comes to eating. She eats and loves virtually any food I put in front of her, including blue steak - the bloodier the better as far as she is concerned! But if there's one thing that's always a struggle, it's nuts. She really doesn't care for them and I'm at a bit of a loss as to how best to get her to eat them. I wonder if peanut butter would be worth a try?
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Sue K  Posts:8551
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| 12/10/2007 1:53 PM |
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| I wouldn't try to get a person to eat peanut butter if they don't already eat it. One reason is that the lectins (proteins) in peanuts are itrritating to most people's digestive systems, to differing extents (and I don't mean only those with known peanut allergies). Second reason, peanuts aren't the most Zone favorable nuts (really a legume) anyway. If you want to try to get her to eat a Zone favorable nut butter, as a source of some good fat, you'd be better off trying almond butter. The drawback to that, for some people, is that it's more expensive. |
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Colin  Posts:162
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| 12/10/2007 2:25 PM |
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Thanks for the time Sue, I don't recall ever seeing Almond butter. Will have to keep my eye out for it.
Personally I always hated peanut butter so never have any in the house. |
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Cranberrycat  Posts:5306
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| 12/10/2007 8:38 PM |
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| Isn't peanut butter listed in the Top 100 Zone foods? I can't find my copy, but was thinking it was there--I have also seen peanuts listed as a "best choice" in the zone block index. |
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Sue K  Posts:8551
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| 12/10/2007 10:04 PM |
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In "Top 100 ZF" Barry Sears explains that peanuts have a lower Zone fat quality rating than almonds and olives (in fact he's listed thma as the lowest rated fat in the book) because they have less monounsaturated fat. |
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Cranberrycat  Posts:5306
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| 12/12/2007 12:28 AM |
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Oh, you must have misread my post! I am missing my copy of that book, so I am not able to see that, but thanks for expanding on that. Of course, it doesn't explain how peanuts can be rated as a "best source" of fat in the block lists. |
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| 12/12/2007 12:57 AM |
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| I also noticed that peanuts and peanut butter is listed on the food block guide on www.drsears.com. That list apparently is a list of Zone favorable foods. |
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Sue K  Posts:8551
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| 12/12/2007 8:31 AM |
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Some foods are more favorable than others. "Top 100 Z F" rates and places the favorable foods into 3 categories, basically a good, better, and best type of rating. Peanuts fall into the lowest level (refer to page, 226), not the better or best rating, although they do have other positive attributes in addition to their monounsaturated fat content. Here's an excellent resource to use to make comparisons of the fat makeup of the foods shown on the list Zone favorable fats: http://www.nal.usda.gov/fnic/foodcomp/search/ If you compare peanuts to Macadamia nuts (which Barry gives his highest rating to in "Top 100 ZF", and calls "the Champion of Zone fats"; refer to page 214), you'll see that peanuts contain less than half the amount of monounsaturated fat and more than 10 times the amount of polyunsaturated fat as Macadamias do. Monounsaturated fat is the one we add in the Zone. Polyunsaturated fat is the one we try to avoid in the Zone. |
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Colin  Posts:162
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| 12/12/2007 3:41 PM |
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| All foods are created equal, but some foods are more equal than others. Eh Sue? ;-) |
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Sue K  Posts:8551
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| 12/12/2007 4:38 PM |
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| Yep, more equal, more better. :) |
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Cranberrycat  Posts:5306
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| 12/12/2007 6:49 PM |
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Well, that just doesn't make sense to me. It seems odd that a food that contains nutrients that we need to avoid is published in the T100ZF! IMO, if a food has something in it that we should avoid, it should not be listed in the book, as I would expect only zone favorables to be in there! But, I guess that is just what would happen in the "world according to Cranberrycat". |
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Sue K  Posts:8551
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| 12/12/2007 7:33 PM |
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| Most all nuts contain monounsaturated, and polyunsaturated, and saturated fats. Those listed as Zone favorable contain more monounsaturated than they do saturated and polyunsaturated. |
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Cranberrycat  Posts:5306
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| 12/12/2007 9:32 PM |
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[quote]Posted By Sue on 12/12/2007 7:33 PM Most all nuts contain monounsaturated, and polyunsaturated, and saturated fats. Those listed as Zone favorable contain more monounsaturated than they do saturated and polyunsaturated. [/quote] Guess what! I found my MTZ book! (now just need to find T100ZF). In any case, since I just put my hands on that book, I promptly went to the back section, pages 332-333, and read the fat block list. The list is divided up into 3 sections: best choices (rich in monounsaturated fat), fair choices (low in saturated fat), and poor choices (rich in saturated fat). I found peanuts listed right along with all of the other "best choices". Peanuts, peanut butter and peanut oil. |
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Sue K  Posts:8551
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| 12/13/2007 6:35 AM |
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Cranberry, If you mean that seems to be conflicting info (not sure what you're trying to point out) IMO, it agrees with the info already presented here. The 100 foods discussed in "Top 100 ZF" represent the overall best Zone choices (peanuts included), and in that book, Barry further rates those choices using 3 categories, essentially representing good, better, and best, with peanuts getting the lowest of the 3 ratings. |
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Cranberrycat  Posts:5306
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| 12/13/2007 6:00 PM |
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[quote]Posted By Sue on 12/13/2007 6:35 AM Cranberry, If you mean that seems to be conflicting info (not sure what you're trying to point out) IMO, it agrees with the info already presented here. The 100 foods discussed in "Top 100 ZF" represent the overall best Zone choices (peanuts included), and in that book, Barry further rates those choices using 3 categories, essentially representing good, better, and best, with peanuts getting the lowest of the 3 ratings.[/quote] Not exactly, Sue. That is not necessarily what I am saying. I am at a disadvantage by not having the T100ZF with me at this time (lost it), but what I am saying is that the other books rate peanuts (and peanut products) as "best choice" fats, meaning that they have a high amount of monounsaturated fat. In a previous post, you were directing another member to steer away from peanut products (peanut butter, if I recall) because it was not a highly favorable choice for fat. I am pointing out that all of the sources of information seem to indicate that peanut products ARE a highly favorable choice for fat. The mere fact that peanuts show up in the T100ZF seems to indicate that it IS a best choice, along with peanuts being on the best choice column on the block index; and I do not see any reason why anyone should be directed to avoid it (except in the case of allergies). |
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Dr. Barry Sears is a leading authority on the dietary control of hormonal response. A former research scientist at the Boston University School of Medicine and the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, Dr. Sears has dedicated his research efforts over the past 30 years to the study of lipids. He holds 13 U.S. Patents in the areas of intravenous drug delivery systems and hormonal regulation for the treatment of cardiovascular disease.
A turning point in his research occurred in 1982. That year, the Nobel Prize in Medicine was awarded for discoveries of the role that specialized hormones, known as eicosanoids, play in the development of cardiovascular disease, diabetes, auto-immune diseases, and cancer. Since eicosanoids are only generated from dietary fat, Dr. Sears reasoned that one could apply intravenous drug delivery principles to nutrition in order to control these exceptionally powerful hormonal responses with laser-like precision. In essence, his approach treats food as if it were a drug.
This area of his research led to various patents in the area of hormonal control by essentially using food as an oral drug delivery system to modulate eicosanoids especially for cardiovascular, diabetic, and neurological patients.
The impact of Dr. Sears’ revolutionary work in the dietary control of hormonal response began with the publication of his landmark book, The Zone. Since its publication in June 1995, The Zone has sold more than 2,000,000 hardcover copies, and became a #1 best seller on the New York Times book list. In addition, The Zone has been translated into 22 languages indicating a worldwide response to Dr. Sears’ research. His second book, Mastering the Zone, published in 1997, also became a New York Times bestseller with hardcover sales in excess of 500,000 copies to date. His third book, Zone Perfect Meals in Minutes, published in 1997, quickly became one of the best-selling cookbooks of 1997 and an another New York Times bestseller. The Anti-Aging Zone was published in 1999 and provides the molecular insights into how the Zone Diet can reverse the aging process. The Omega Rx Zone, published in 2002, explores the molecular foundation of chronic disease and how high-dose fish oil can dramatically reverse it. His latest book The Anti-Inflammation Zone discusses how to combat silent inflammation in order to reduce the risk of cancer, heart disease, diabetes, dementia, and many other inflammatory conditions—and how to reverse these conditions if they are already present. To date more than 5 million hardcover copies of his Zone books have been sold in the United States.
His research has elevated food from more than simply a source of calories to being recognized as an exceptionally powerful drug. Because of his revolutionary research, Dr. Sears has been a frequent guest on many national programs such as 20/20, Today, Good Morning America, CBS Morning News, CNN, and MSNBC.
Dr. Sears continues his ongoing research as President of Zone Labs, a biotechnology company in Danvers, MA as well as the President of the non-profit Inflammation Research Foundation in Marblehead, MA. In addition to continuing research on the hormonal effects of food, Dr. Sears has expanded his research in developing innovative dietary approaches to treating cancer and neurological conditions, as well as his on-going work in treating cardiovascular diease and type 2 diabetes.
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I have been taking the Fish Oil for over 3 years now. I am 44 playing hockey and working out. The Fish oil helps with the pain that I get from playing hockey. It greatly enhances my performance on the ice and while working out. I have noticed a big difference in my energy, attentiveness and memory. If I miss a day for whatever reason, I notice a huge difference and it feels like something is missing. Anyway that is my short little story and it comes from the heart.
– Carter B.
I am a nutritionist and Ph.D. doctor of health and nutrition. For Dr. Sears to figure out balancing fat, carbs and protein, is really beyond brilliant. It is a milestone in diet history. I go over people's diet/emotional journals. Mostly all the time, we discover that the fatigue, irritability, unstable emotions were due to the imbalance in their diet. Using the Zone to balance them out, helps control weight, roller coaster emotions and gives them energy. Dr. Sears is so right when he says food is medicine. He has figured out the most powerful drug combination going, called The Zone.
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I have a very exhausting job as a flight attendant. I read the "Omega Rx Zone" about 4 years ago and started taking the fish oil. I am 47 and have been flying for 22 years. I am very active, I run and lift weights. But combining lack of regular sleep, a physically demanding job, and irregular eating patterns this job takes a toll on the body. Since taking the fish oil, I have noticed that I do not get exhausted. I get tired, but not exhausted. I stopped taking it for a couple of months and then started taking another company's fish oil. I started getting exhausted again. I came back to Zone Labs and will continue with the fish oil for the rest of my life. I believe in the product and it makes a huge difference in my life. It makes a difference with my running as well. I also bring the bars and shakes with me on the road. It is almost impossible to eat the way I should at work. I haven't found the right secret. At least I have my Zone fish oil, bars, and shakes.
– Kathryn S.
I have been in the Zone, for about 1 month now. I wanted to share with you how wonderful I think this program is. I have been a personal trainer for almost 10 years and actively compete in numerous athletic activities. The Zone program has helped me to achieve a better awareness of my nutritional needs and the results I have seen are amazing! I have lost nearly 13 lbs since I have been in the Zone. I feel more mentally alert, more focused at work, have greater intensity during my training, have made significant strength gains, and just feel better over all. With that said, I would like to thank you for helping me in my quest for "super-health"!
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– Rob Y.
I read 'The Zone' and as exactly as I could followed the advice for diet. I noted weight loss progress. Over six months, I lost 33 pounds. One year has passed since then. I have maintained the new weight, guided always by Zone concepts. The Zone is powerful - I have found it fantastic and I am very grateful to Dr Sears.
– Lyn S.
Before I stumbled across the Zone I was weighing close to two hundred pounds and I was depressed. I used to be a gymnast as a young man. I would think, "look at me now," when I looked in a mirror. The day I found 'The Zone' book, I was intrigued and as I read it the science made sense and so, I began to follow the "treatment". I began to lose weight and I was feeling way more energetic. I am forty two years old, I am very active and my weight is down to 162 lbs, 38 pounds lost on the Zone. I cycle, walk, jog, swim and I can now perform some of the more simple gymnastic skills I did twenty years ago...I literally feel like I have turned back the clock.
Thank you!
– Jack J.
I have been on the Zone diet for 7 years. I did not go on the diet to lose weight necessarily; but fairly quickly I lost 25 pounds, going from 190 to 165; from a 36-inch waist to a 32-inch waist. I primarily did the Zone to live healthier. My health is excellent now. I just turned 62 years old. My Zone is my eating lifestyle now; I seldom stray; and I do not miss anything. It is The Good Life.
– Curtis Y.
My wife's doctor told her to read "Enter the Zone" and to do the diet, so I told her I would do it with her. After only one week on the plan we went on a strenuous hike (the first of the year), and when we stopped at our favorite coffee shop on the way home I was able to get out of the car and stand upright and walk into the place without pain or stiffness. The Zone had eliminated all the inflammation that had always forced me to stumble all humped over into the coffee shop any time we skied or hiked all day.
Thank you, Doctor Sears.
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Prior to following the Zone Diet, my body fat was around 15% and my weight around 153 pounds. No matter what I did, my weight and body fat did not change much. I regularly cycled 20-30 hours per week logging well over 400 miles. That had little impact on body fat or weight. Diet also seemed to have little impact on body fat or weight. Within a couple of months of following the zone diet, my weight dropped rather quickly to 142 pounds and body fat to about 8%. I still regularly cycle up to 20 hours per week (during the summer). I have also started strength training. I eat about 16 blocks per day. I take 3.6 grams of fish oil per day, along with Vitamin E, Alpha Lipoic Acid, CoQ10, and B & C vitamins. I also take GLA, which in my opinion, has significantly reduced fatigue and improved recovery times after exercise.
– Jeremy S.
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All polyphenols have antioxidant properties than can be measured by their Oxygen Radical Absorption Capacity (ORAC), but not all polyphenols have anti-inflammatory properties. The polyphenols in Dr. Sears’ Zone Polyphenol Plus have been carefully chosen to have both.
Polyphenols are the phytochemicals that not only give fruits and vegetables their color, but also help regulate inflammation. In addition, polyphenols also activate the key enzyme (AMP kinase) that helps restore cellular ATP levels. Polyphenols also help regulate the activation of inducible inflammatory proteins (such as COX-2 and inflammatory cytokines).
There are more than 4,000 known polyphenols, and the richest sources are fruits and vegetables. In general, the more color a fruit or vegetable has, the richer the polyphenol content.
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Zone Labs’ Ultra Refined Omega-3 Concentrates are three times fresher and contain less than 1/10th the mercury than what is allowed by the Norwegian Medicinal Standard and European Pharmacopoeia Standard
Zone Labs adheres to the International Fish Oil Standard (IFOS), an independent third party validated laboratory quality standard that is more rigid than any other global standard for purity.
- No company in the worlds runs more tests with IFOS than Zone Labs
- Zone Labs receives a 5 out of 5 star IFOS rating for every batch it tests
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Council for Responsible Nutrition |
European Pharmacopeia |
Norwegian Medicinal Standards |
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< 3.75 meg/kg |
5 meg/kg |
10 meg/kg |
10 meg/kg |
| Totox Levels |
< 20 meg/kg |
26 meg/kg |
NA |
NA |
| Lead |
< 10 ppb |
10 ppb |
100 ppb |
100 ppb |
| Mercury |
< 10 ppb |
10 ppb |
100 ppb |
100 ppb |
| Dioxans and Furans |
< 1 ppt |
2 ppt |
2 ppt |
2 ppt |
| PCBs |
< 45 ppb |
90 ppb |
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"IFOS – THE TOP GLOBAL PURITY STANDARD FOR OMEGA-3 FROM FISH"
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Zone Labs products show no detectable lead or mercury when tested down to 10ppb, which is 10 times below the Norwegian Medicinal Standard and European Pharmacopoeia Standard limits.
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Zone Labs products are three times fresher than the minimum allowed by the Norwegian Medicinal Standard and European Pharmacopoeia Standards (based on average peroxide values).
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Zone Labs starts with only wild, small fish from pristine Chilean waters and ends with proprietary validation and testing processes to achieve an IFOS certified 5 star rating.
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- Extraction of fish oil
- Winterization – remove limited amounts of saturated fats
- Absorption – remove heavy metals
- Preliminary Molecular Distillation – refining “touch up” to reduce contaminants
- Oil conversion to ethyl esters
- Ethyl ester thermal fractionation – remove additional saturated fats
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- Rigid Processes – proprietary validation, inspection and encapsulation methods. Independent lab verification of IFOS requirements and certified 5 star rating
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A recommended serving of Zone Labs Ultra-Refined Concentrates delivers 8 times more omega-3’s than a typical retail fish oil supplement.
Most fish oil supplements have 30% or less of the healthy omega-3s EPA and DHA, with the remaining 70% of the capsule containing unbeneficial, lesser refined fatty acids that contribute to their bad taste and gastric side effects.
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Typical Retail Dose = 300mg omega-3
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A serving of canned tuna has 12 times less omega-3’s than
Zone Labs Ultra-Refined Omega-3 Concentrates
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Commonly consumed fish and shellfish in the United States
Mercury Source: Food and Drug Administration, FDA 1900-2004, “National Marine Fisheries Service Survey of Trace Elements in the Fishery Resource". Omega-3 Level Source: American Heart Association Website.
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< 0.01 |
2400 (standard 4 capsule serving |
| Salmon (fresh, frozen) |
0.014 |
1200 |
| Flounder or sole |
0.050 |
480 |
| Pollock |
0.041 |
450 |
| Crab |
0.060 |
400 |
| Scallops |
0.050 |
290 |
| Shrimp |
ND* |
290 |
| Catfish |
0.050 |
270 |
| Clams |
ND* |
250 |
| Cod |
0.095 |
210 |
| Canned Tuna (light) |
0.120 |
200 |
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