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Scott

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Aspiring

02/01/2007 11:20 AM
[quote] 16 pills a day it would be! [/quote] Actually, 16grams of EPA/DHA would be closer to 27 capsules. (600mg EPA+DHA per 1000g capsule x 27 = 16,200mg EPA/DHA)

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Sue K

Posts:9558

Zone Expert

02/01/2007 12:39 PM
[quote]Posted By Scott on 02/01/2007 11:15 AM I personally would not take a product that was not independently tested in a consumer ready state (IFOS). Of course, everyone has their own comfort level. [/quote] I wholeheartedly second that opinion! sue

sue Lost 100 lbs 15 yrs ago, off BP meds, thanks to the Zone diet and Zone fish oil. ZoneFast is the best! To view my before/after pics and meal photos click on this picture

Vicki

Posts:21

Aspiring

02/01/2007 7:28 PM
Don't worry ya'll, I went to that website and did some comparison shopping. I'll be ordering Omaxtra and the more bottles I ordered the cheaper each bottle became so I ended up paying $23 for a bottle of 120. As far as the fish goes 1 oz of canned salmon contains 3,000mg of omega 3 and the levels of contamination are undetectable. (I researched all that info too) =o) Vicki

Sue K

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Zone Expert

02/02/2007 11:32 AM
Here's some FYI from "The Omega RX Zone " by Barry Sears (refer to pages 64 to 68). To paraphrase, even if one could eat the pounds of fish in a day which wouldbe necessary to acheive adequate amounts of FO, there are many drawbacks. One couldn't acheive otpimal eicosanoid control because fish muscle is rich in AA. One would also ingest large amounts of chemical and heavy metal pollution. You'd think eating farmed fish would lessen the pollution problem, but it would result in even worse eicosanoid control because, due to its inferior diet(soy oil vs the algae eaten by fish in the wild), it contains much more AA than wild fish. Incidentally, according to the book, a 3.5 oz serving of salmon contains 1.1 g omega 3. Considering it one would need to eat many pounds of fish per day to recieve a therapeutic high dose of FO, and the the FO would most likely not have an optimal EPA/DHA, as well as come with a hefty amount of AA, it would seem to contadict relying on eating fish for obtaining high doses of omega 3. sue

sue Lost 100 lbs 15 yrs ago, off BP meds, thanks to the Zone diet and Zone fish oil. ZoneFast is the best! To view my before/after pics and meal photos click on this picture

John

Posts:558

Zoner

02/02/2007 12:21 PM
Life Extension Foundation: Super Omega-3 EPA/DHA IFOS 5 STAR RATING! . . 1 bottle..(120)..for $21.60 ea 4 bottles..."....for . $18.90 ea 10..."......."....for ... $16.81 ea

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Sue K

Posts:9558

Zone Expert

02/02/2007 1:56 PM
[quote]Posted By John on 02/02/2007 12:21 PM Life Extension Foundation: Super Omega-3 EPA/DHA IFOS 5 STAR RATING! . . 1 bottle..(120)..for $21.60 ea 4 bottles..."....for . $18.90 ea 10..."......."....for ... $16.81 ea [/quote] If you take a closer look (here's the product page from the Life Extension website http://www.lef.org/newshop/items/item00902.html) you'll note this is is not a comparable product to Zone Labs FO's and some of the other highly concentrated FO's. First of all, it's a molecularly distilled product, which puts it steps below the quality of highly concentrated FO's. Also worth noting is that it doesn't have the optimal EPA/DHA ratio. Then if you go on to take a look at the most recent IFOS consumer reports page you'll see that only two batches of this Life Extension FO received the 5 star rating during the past couple of years. If I were purchasing the product, I'd want to be sure my bottle contained FO from one of those 2 batches. No more needs to be said, except maybe that one gets what one pays for. sue

sue Lost 100 lbs 15 yrs ago, off BP meds, thanks to the Zone diet and Zone fish oil. ZoneFast is the best! To view my before/after pics and meal photos click on this picture

Vicki

Posts:21

Aspiring

02/02/2007 3:48 PM
Ya'll are really getting into this! =o) When you think about it people were much healthier a long, long time ago because they simply ate better. The American diet is downright horrible...a good DVD to watch is "Supersize Me". For all of us on the zone diet I bet we all just feel better which is a great indication that our bodies are healthier. We can sit and pick at all the different fish oils out there and I'm sure Dr. Sears has one of the best kinds out there but it's not affordable for everyone. (I don't hope for this)--Maybe one day someone taking large quantities of health food grade fish oil will go to the doctor and discover that they have extremely high levels of whatever in their system, turn around and file a lawsuit, and maybe in turn there will be tighter restrictions on the fish oil industry. But until then, we'll just try to choose wisely. My son is not severely ADD so I'm sure anything will help. We got our fish oil in the mail today so I'll start him on that Sunday. I've decided to let him venture out of the zone tonight since it's Friday and he's been so cooperative saying goodbye to all of the sugary goodies he likes and tomorrow my dad is taking him to the circus so I'm sure my dad will "treat" him to some non zone friendly foods. =o) I'll post something in a couple of weeks to let you know how things are going. Thanks so much for your opinions and input, it really has been helpful. Vicki

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Zone Expert

02/02/2007 8:02 PM
Unfortunately, I have jumped in a bit late. I also wanted to share a bit that I know, as I also have an ADD daughter. Not ADHD, and it doesn't appear to be a severe case of ADD, but nonetheless, she has it. Personally, I have not been able to get her going on fish oil--she won't swallow the capsules, and we were unable to mask the taste of the oil in liquid form. She was having problems with liquid diarrhea, also, just by increasing to 2 tsp per day. So, we are nowhere near the "recommended" level, but we are at a level that she can tolerate. I am finding that diet control is very important, regardless of whether or not she is on fish oil. I don't worry so much about getting specific "blocks" into her, but I just don't have all sugary treats around. My kids have pretty much the same thing that I eat, with a few exceptions (taste-wise!). One further comment and then I will have it all in. Wouldn't it be nice if fish oil were considered a "medicine" rather than a "nutritional supplement"? I had switched over to a Health Savings Account a year ago, and was hoping that I could use the money in my HSA to buy fish oil. However, I have found that fish oil is not covered under HSA. Would have been nice, as I was hoping that I could count on that money which I am setting aside for my health care needs to use for my "health promotion".

Cranberrycat We don't own the earth; we borrow it from our children.

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