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Cranberrycat  Posts:5313
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| 05/27/2009 7:19 PM |
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| The sores may not necessarily be directly from the bread, but rather from the overall change in chemistry, a drop in acidity in the mouth, due to the sugar content. |
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Sue K  Posts:8674
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| 05/27/2009 7:45 PM |
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kpo, glad you've finaly been able to fingure out how it's the bread!
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sue  Posts:263
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| 05/27/2009 9:51 PM |
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I find this thread quite interesting. I too make homemade bread, mostly for my family as i'm not a huge bread person. however, I have to take issue with the statement that all bread contains hydrogenated oils. Commercial ones, most, but not homemade. I use olive oil in mine.
As to the comment about the malted barley, there is less sweetener in the Ezekiel bread from malted barley than in one of the zone bars from all the sweetners they contain.
As to the person who loves their rye bread, might I ask if you make your own with 100% rye flour? If not, please read your label. Any rye bread I have ever read or any recipe for that fact also contains wheat flour and in a larger quantity than the rye flour. So please don't fool yourself thinking you are doing yourself a favor by not eating any wheat. Rye bread does not contain enough gluten for it to rise w/o the addition of gluten in some form either through the wheat or through vital wheat gluten. Unless of course you make a gluten free bread, which I have done, and it doesn't rise all that well, but there are subsitutes, they however are not found in rye bread unless you make your own.
I do agree that wheat causes problems for many people and should be used in moderation. My DH had to follow a gluten free diet for a period of time and you'd be surprised where all you find wheat, if you are not a regular label reader.
Should bread be included in the Zone? I think that one is up for debate depending on the type of bread you are talking about. If it is freshly milled whole grain, then I think in moderation, following zone guidelines of 25% of your carb, then you are fine. If you are talking about over processed white bread, then no.
Just my opinions.
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Cranberrycat  Posts:5313
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| 05/27/2009 10:21 PM |
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Thanks, sue! I think the thread is interesting, too. I would agree, wheat sometimes causes problems for many people. To say that 90% of the population has some type of wheat intolerance (not said by you) is probably a bit extreme, but I do agree that wheat intolerances exist. Sorry about your DH, does he still have to follow that? I have a friend who has celiac's, and she is very careful and has to read every single label. Wheat ends up in a lot of places! |
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Bernie  Posts:231
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| 05/27/2009 10:47 PM |
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Hi Cranberrycat.... I am telling my experience... before the zone.. I would never ever think.. not for a minute.. I am on that wheat intolerance ratio... but now, that I am in the zone.. that I eat healthy... balance and moderation... I found out I can not tolerate wheat. My stomach will inflammate so badly, I could not stant to eat wheat. Before the zone.. there was so much in there, that I could hardly feel when I was inflammated or when I was not, cause it was constant inflamatin on my intestines... I love wheat... taste delicious... I am from up north mexico.. where flour tortillas with every meat are welcome.. but simply my stomach can not digest properly. So I am giving up on them, or if I ever decide to try them again, I know the consecuences I will get. Maybe that 90% may not be exagerated... it is just that people can not understand their own body claiming for help.... welll... just my two cents worth of comment... have a nice evening.. I am going home now. Bye... |
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Sue K  Posts:8674
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| 05/28/2009 7:41 AM |
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| Actually, it's higher than 90%, but I don't remember the exact % I read (I'm thinking it was 95%). |
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Cranberrycat  Posts:5313
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| 05/28/2009 7:46 AM |
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It would be interesting to know the source of that stat. Could you post that for us, Sue? I don't deny the fact that there are people who struggle with wheat products, but I have a hard time believing that this statistic is so high. |
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Kevin  Posts:38
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| 05/28/2009 12:35 PM |
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The 95% statistic seems off to me. My guess is there's a broad continuum of responses to wheat, from subclinical reflux to severe celiac disease. With the Zone tenets of balance and moderation, wheat shouldn't be a problem. I still eat turkey sandwiches but use one slice of bread and no more than once a week. My mom sends me imported German Rye that she buys at the army base in Colorado Springs. Wonderful when it's fresh but turns into shoe leather in just a few days.
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Cranberrycat  Posts:5313
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| 05/28/2009 9:15 PM |
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Yes, I think that number is quite inflated, too. I was reading a few websites, suggesting that it may be somewhere between 15-30%. The data suggested that 15% of the population have a diagnosed wheat sensitivity, while a higher number (that is where I got the 30% figure) don't realize it. An actual wheat allergy is very rare, but celiac disease actually affects about 1 in 7 people. Anyway, just a few facts from a website. Symptoms of a wheat allergy or wheat intolerance (not exhaustive by any means): Arthritis Bloated stomach Chest pains Depression or mood swings Diarrhoea Eczema Feeling dizzy or faint Joint and muscle aches and pains Nausea or vomiting Palpitations Psoriasis Skin rashes Sneezing Suspected irritable bowel syndrome (IBS)/similar effects Swollen throat or tongue Tiredness and lethargy Unexplained cough Unexplained runny nose Watery or itchy eyes These symptoms can also be indicative of many other medical conditions, and therefore professional medical advice should always be sought when trying to determine a cause. |
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Cranberrycat  Posts:5313
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| 05/28/2009 9:17 PM |
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| BTW, some of those symptoms that I listed are also signs of carbohydrate intolerance. So, I may be inclined to ask if it is specifically the wheat causing the symptoms, or is it just the GL? |
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Sue K  Posts:8674
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| 05/29/2009 10:17 AM |
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Hi Everyone,
As I remember, I read the info I posted (about % of population, etc.) either in of the Zone or Blood Type Diet (D'Adamo) literaturature or on one of the Zone or Blood Type Diet websites. |
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Cranberrycat  Posts:5313
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| 05/29/2009 10:25 AM |
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Oh, I thought perhaps you had a stat that was a bit more objective? We all know what Barry Sear's stand is on wheat (even in light of it being in some of his products). And, D'Adamo is not exactly the most credible source, either. |
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Teresa  Posts:18
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| 07/10/2009 3:38 PM |
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Another interesting tidbit I’ve come across: In a PBS synopsis of Jared Diamond’s Germs, Guns and Steel, the author presents the hypothesis that a major reason for the differences between today’s industrialized societies and the Third World is the fact that the ancient ancestors of conquering nations, somewhere in the Fertile Crescent of the Middle East, began cultivating cereal crops such as wheat, barley and rice. These grains were not only calorie-dense and highly nutritious, but were also suitable for long-term storage, unlike many fruits and roots gathered in other parts of the world. Storage meant that these ancient societies could amass surplus food supplies (as mentioned by another post-er), which in turn allowed for specialization within those societies – the development of writing, mathematics, engineering, and the like. In contrast, other ancient peoples without access to these grain crops were forced to spend most of their waking hours simply gathering enough food to survive – and some of these cultures (the native people of New Guinea are given as an example) have changed very little to this day. Of course grains are NOT touted as the only reason for the gap between the “haves” and the “have-nots”, as it were; the domestication of animals also allowed larger tracts of land to be placed under cultivation (as many of these animals could pull a plow), they provided a reliable source of meat, and conferred immunity to many diseases such as smallpox which would later ravage the native peoples of the Americas and Africa. Grain cultivation and animal domestication were simply by-products of a fortunate geography, which encompassed native plant and animal species suitable for domestication and entailed a climate suitable for civilization-building. The east-west orientation of Europe, Asia and North Africa allowed expansion of these societies into areas of similar climate and day-length, again unlike the Americas and sub-Saharan Africa, where the main geographical axes run north-south. Even so, it is interesting to consider from this that if certain ancient societies had continued to eat “low-density” fruits and vegetables and not begun actively cultivating cereal crops, the business of civilization-building might never have gotten off the ground and our world today would be very different as a result. Some historians disagree with the above ideas as overly simplistic, but I’ve found the documentary to be extremely interesting, and this book has jumped close to the top of my “gotta read” list. |
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janet  Posts:861
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| 07/10/2009 6:16 PM |
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Teresa, very interesting! I agree with all your points. But don't forget: the civilization-building, etc. was not all.... there also came property ownership, wars to grab more of it, patriarchy to ensure that one's heirs inherit your property etc. that nomadic folks, as well as hunter/gatherers weren't really into...as they moved about sharing lands with migrating animals, etc. Just to point out the other side.....everything that brings advancement also brings the danger of misuse. It's always a double-edged sword. And we are feeling the edge of that sword now, as hybridizing wheat to make it more high protein makes it higher gluten. The olden wheat was easier to digest. (spelt, etc.) Also the rye bread that I eat is 100% rye. |
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Teresa  Posts:18
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| 07/11/2009 8:09 AM |
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| Oh, yes; what I gave you is a summary of the TV summary, so I'm sure the book goes into much more detail than even the 3-part documentary. As the title suggests, the "Guns" and "Steel" would also play a large role later on, but what those all boiled down to was the jump-start that domestication of crops and animals gave to certain people-groups. |
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| 07/11/2009 11:16 AM |
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| CC, why do you say D'Adamo is not that credible a source? I find his work to be very fascinating. If only he and Sears could get together on some issues! Wow! What a program that would be! |
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Dr. Barry Sears is a leading authority on the dietary control of hormonal response. A former research scientist at the Boston University School of Medicine and the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, Dr. Sears has dedicated his research efforts over the past 30 years to the study of lipids. He holds 13 U.S. Patents in the areas of intravenous drug delivery systems and hormonal regulation for the treatment of cardiovascular disease.
A turning point in his research occurred in 1982. That year, the Nobel Prize in Medicine was awarded for discoveries of the role that specialized hormones, known as eicosanoids, play in the development of cardiovascular disease, diabetes, auto-immune diseases, and cancer. Since eicosanoids are only generated from dietary fat, Dr. Sears reasoned that one could apply intravenous drug delivery principles to nutrition in order to control these exceptionally powerful hormonal responses with laser-like precision. In essence, his approach treats food as if it were a drug.
This area of his research led to various patents in the area of hormonal control by essentially using food as an oral drug delivery system to modulate eicosanoids especially for cardiovascular, diabetic, and neurological patients.
The impact of Dr. Sears’ revolutionary work in the dietary control of hormonal response began with the publication of his landmark book, The Zone. Since its publication in June 1995, The Zone has sold more than 2,000,000 hardcover copies, and became a #1 best seller on the New York Times book list. In addition, The Zone has been translated into 22 languages indicating a worldwide response to Dr. Sears’ research. His second book, Mastering the Zone, published in 1997, also became a New York Times bestseller with hardcover sales in excess of 500,000 copies to date. His third book, Zone Perfect Meals in Minutes, published in 1997, quickly became one of the best-selling cookbooks of 1997 and an another New York Times bestseller. The Anti-Aging Zone was published in 1999 and provides the molecular insights into how the Zone Diet can reverse the aging process. The Omega Rx Zone, published in 2002, explores the molecular foundation of chronic disease and how high-dose fish oil can dramatically reverse it. His latest book The Anti-Inflammation Zone discusses how to combat silent inflammation in order to reduce the risk of cancer, heart disease, diabetes, dementia, and many other inflammatory conditions—and how to reverse these conditions if they are already present. To date more than 5 million hardcover copies of his Zone books have been sold in the United States.
His research has elevated food from more than simply a source of calories to being recognized as an exceptionally powerful drug. Because of his revolutionary research, Dr. Sears has been a frequent guest on many national programs such as 20/20, Today, Good Morning America, CBS Morning News, CNN, and MSNBC.
Dr. Sears continues his ongoing research as President of Zone Labs, a biotechnology company in Danvers, MA as well as the President of the non-profit Inflammation Research Foundation in Marblehead, MA. In addition to continuing research on the hormonal effects of food, Dr. Sears has expanded his research in developing innovative dietary approaches to treating cancer and neurological conditions, as well as his on-going work in treating cardiovascular diease and type 2 diabetes.
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I have been taking the Fish Oil for over 3 years now. I am 44 playing hockey and working out. The Fish oil helps with the pain that I get from playing hockey. It greatly enhances my performance on the ice and while working out. I have noticed a big difference in my energy, attentiveness and memory. If I miss a day for whatever reason, I notice a huge difference and it feels like something is missing. Anyway that is my short little story and it comes from the heart.
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– Kathryn S.
I have been in the Zone, for about 1 month now. I wanted to share with you how wonderful I think this program is. I have been a personal trainer for almost 10 years and actively compete in numerous athletic activities. The Zone program has helped me to achieve a better awareness of my nutritional needs and the results I have seen are amazing! I have lost nearly 13 lbs since I have been in the Zone. I feel more mentally alert, more focused at work, have greater intensity during my training, have made significant strength gains, and just feel better over all. With that said, I would like to thank you for helping me in my quest for "super-health"!
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– Lyn S.
Before I stumbled across the Zone I was weighing close to two hundred pounds and I was depressed. I used to be a gymnast as a young man. I would think, "look at me now," when I looked in a mirror. The day I found 'The Zone' book, I was intrigued and as I read it the science made sense and so, I began to follow the "treatment". I began to lose weight and I was feeling way more energetic. I am forty two years old, I am very active and my weight is down to 162 lbs, 38 pounds lost on the Zone. I cycle, walk, jog, swim and I can now perform some of the more simple gymnastic skills I did twenty years ago...I literally feel like I have turned back the clock.
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I have been on the Zone diet for 7 years. I did not go on the diet to lose weight necessarily; but fairly quickly I lost 25 pounds, going from 190 to 165; from a 36-inch waist to a 32-inch waist. I primarily did the Zone to live healthier. My health is excellent now. I just turned 62 years old. My Zone is my eating lifestyle now; I seldom stray; and I do not miss anything. It is The Good Life.
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My wife's doctor told her to read "Enter the Zone" and to do the diet, so I told her I would do it with her. After only one week on the plan we went on a strenuous hike (the first of the year), and when we stopped at our favorite coffee shop on the way home I was able to get out of the car and stand upright and walk into the place without pain or stiffness. The Zone had eliminated all the inflammation that had always forced me to stumble all humped over into the coffee shop any time we skied or hiked all day.
Thank you, Doctor Sears.
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Prior to following the Zone Diet, my body fat was around 15% and my weight around 153 pounds. No matter what I did, my weight and body fat did not change much. I regularly cycled 20-30 hours per week logging well over 400 miles. That had little impact on body fat or weight. Diet also seemed to have little impact on body fat or weight. Within a couple of months of following the zone diet, my weight dropped rather quickly to 142 pounds and body fat to about 8%. I still regularly cycle up to 20 hours per week (during the summer). I have also started strength training. I eat about 16 blocks per day. I take 3.6 grams of fish oil per day, along with Vitamin E, Alpha Lipoic Acid, CoQ10, and B & C vitamins. I also take GLA, which in my opinion, has significantly reduced fatigue and improved recovery times after exercise.
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All polyphenols have antioxidant properties than can be measured by their Oxygen Radical Absorption Capacity (ORAC), but not all polyphenols have anti-inflammatory properties. The polyphenols in Dr. Sears’ Zone Polyphenol Plus have been carefully chosen to have both.
Polyphenols are the phytochemicals that not only give fruits and vegetables their color, but also help regulate inflammation. In addition, polyphenols also activate the key enzyme (AMP kinase) that helps restore cellular ATP levels. Polyphenols also help regulate the activation of inducible inflammatory proteins (such as COX-2 and inflammatory cytokines).
There are more than 4,000 known polyphenols, and the richest sources are fruits and vegetables. In general, the more color a fruit or vegetable has, the richer the polyphenol content.
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Zone Labs’ Ultra Refined Omega-3 Concentrates are three times fresher and contain less than 1/10th the mercury than what is allowed by the Norwegian Medicinal Standard and European Pharmacopoeia Standard
Zone Labs adheres to the International Fish Oil Standard (IFOS), an independent third party validated laboratory quality standard that is more rigid than any other global standard for purity.
- No company in the worlds runs more tests with IFOS than Zone Labs
- Zone Labs receives a 5 out of 5 star IFOS rating for every batch it tests
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Council for Responsible Nutrition |
European Pharmacopeia |
Norwegian Medicinal Standards |
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< 3.75 meg/kg |
5 meg/kg |
10 meg/kg |
10 meg/kg |
| Totox Levels |
< 20 meg/kg |
26 meg/kg |
NA |
NA |
| Lead |
< 10 ppb |
10 ppb |
100 ppb |
100 ppb |
| Mercury |
< 10 ppb |
10 ppb |
100 ppb |
100 ppb |
| Dioxans and Furans |
< 1 ppt |
2 ppt |
2 ppt |
2 ppt |
| PCBs |
< 45 ppb |
90 ppb |
NA |
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"IFOS – THE TOP GLOBAL PURITY STANDARD FOR OMEGA-3 FROM FISH"
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Zone Labs products show no detectable lead or mercury when tested down to 10ppb, which is 10 times below the Norwegian Medicinal Standard and European Pharmacopoeia Standard limits.
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Zone Labs products are three times fresher than the minimum allowed by the Norwegian Medicinal Standard and European Pharmacopoeia Standards (based on average peroxide values).
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Zone Labs starts with only wild, small fish from pristine Chilean waters and ends with proprietary validation and testing processes to achieve an IFOS certified 5 star rating.
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- Extraction of fish oil
- Winterization – remove limited amounts of saturated fats
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A recommended serving of Zone Labs Ultra-Refined Concentrates delivers 8 times more omega-3’s than a typical retail fish oil supplement.
Most fish oil supplements have 30% or less of the healthy omega-3s EPA and DHA, with the remaining 70% of the capsule containing unbeneficial, lesser refined fatty acids that contribute to their bad taste and gastric side effects.
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Commonly consumed fish and shellfish in the United States
Mercury Source: Food and Drug Administration, FDA 1900-2004, “National Marine Fisheries Service Survey of Trace Elements in the Fishery Resource". Omega-3 Level Source: American Heart Association Website.
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< 0.01 |
2400 (standard 4 capsule serving |
| Salmon (fresh, frozen) |
0.014 |
1200 |
| Flounder or sole |
0.050 |
480 |
| Pollock |
0.041 |
450 |
| Crab |
0.060 |
400 |
| Scallops |
0.050 |
290 |
| Shrimp |
ND* |
290 |
| Catfish |
0.050 |
270 |
| Clams |
ND* |
250 |
| Cod |
0.095 |
210 |
| Canned Tuna (light) |
0.120 |
200 |
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