Sue K  Posts:9554
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| 07/15/2009 8:03 AM |
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janet, no I've never had gall bladder problems, and I have not had my gall bladder removed. There are people in these forums, and others I know also, who have had their gall bladders removed and do fine taking Omega Rx and/or Eico Rx fish oil. IMO, your situation and concerns in this thread (your symptoms after taking fish oil and the constipation issue you had back a ways) appear to be related to EPA, GLA and AA levels, not really about absorption difficulties. Here's what Barry Sears says about fish oil in regard to a person who's had their gall bladder removed: http://www.drsears.com/tabId/399/itemId/10197/Fish-oil-and-gall-bladder-disease.aspx Fish oil and gall bladder disease Q: I have gall bladder disease. Can I take fish oil without adverse effects? A: Omega Rx has been chemically modified to increase bioavailability so it will be absorbed without the need for bile acids coming from the gall bladder. However, I would recommend adding some Sea Health Plus to it to further aid absorption. |
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janet  Posts:901
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| 07/15/2009 10:40 AM |
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this is good to hear! that I don;t need to have a GB to take the FO. I fear my AA levels have gone up lately...for various dietary reasons, will have to work on changing that. I will continue with the omegaRx every 3 da. for a while (cuz I have them), and see how it goes...then maybe switch to EicoRx! Thanks again, Sue! |
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Cranberrycat  Posts:5878
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| 07/15/2009 12:33 PM |
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Janet, I have had my GB out, about a year before I began zoning. When I first started fish oil, I was taking OmegaRx (no such thing as EicoRx at that time). I was having GI problems, unable to increase the dose. After switching to EicoRx, I was able to tolerate the dosage increase. More recently, I tried OmegaRx at the increased dosage, but didn't have any problems tolerating it. But, I was also eating more oats, so getting the GLA from my diet. |
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janet  Posts:901
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| 07/15/2009 1:54 PM |
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| Wow. Thanks, CC! |
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janet  Posts:901
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| 07/16/2009 6:50 PM |
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| ok...today I had a bowl of oatmeal and an omegaRx cap. Also popped a bromelain cap. No problem. |
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Sue K  Posts:9554
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| 07/16/2009 8:09 PM |
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| Hi, here's a tip janet, just in case this is what you have in mind. Eating bowl of oatmeal with an Omega Rx capsule is not going to be the same as taking Eico Rx. |
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Cranberrycat  Posts:5878
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| 07/16/2009 10:39 PM |
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Sue, please explain why eating oatmeal while taking OmegaRx is not the same as taking EicoRx. The only possible difference that I can think of is that EicoRx also has organic toasted sesame oil, to prevent the spillover effect. But, one could easily remedy that situation by just taking his/her own toasted sesame oil. |
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janet  Posts:901
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| 07/17/2009 1:58 AM |
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| wellll, great minds....and all.....I did just that! I added a few drops of ttoasted organic sesame oil to my oatmeal! Now I realize that its just a random amount....but I wanna see if i can actually take FO before I buy more.... Then again, if this every 3 da. thing works out.....I'll just order up. |
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Sue K  Posts:9554
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| 07/17/2009 5:04 AM |
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| Hi, your experiment isn't really going to give you any conclusive info as to whether or not you'll be able to take Eico Rx. The only way to really know that is to take some Eico Rx. If you have no luck with it, return it for a refund (refer to the info about their return policy). |
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sue
Lost 100 lbs 15 yrs ago, off BP meds, thanks to the Zone diet and Zone fish oil. ZoneFast is the best!
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Cranberrycat  Posts:5878
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| 07/17/2009 8:21 AM |
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Janet, Sue may be right, this experiment may not tell you whether or not you can take EicoRx. Besides, no one really knows how much GLA and toasted sesame oil is in the fish oil (it is a triple secret-LOL). I think that if you have good results with OmegaRx while eating oats and tossing in a little of that sesame oil, then you probably would not need to spend the extra cash on the EicoRx. |
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janet  Posts:901
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| 07/17/2009 1:53 PM |
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| I'm still contemplating all this.....and appreciate you two.....will let you know how it goes.... |
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janet  Posts:901
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| 07/21/2009 3:49 PM |
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| Sue, how is your return to FO going? |
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Sue K  Posts:9554
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| 07/21/2009 5:39 PM |
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Hi janet, It's going well here. I didn't increase by adding back teh eico Rx portion of my dose on July 1 as I'd originally planned because I unexpectedly took a 2 week trip. I didnt want to bother to monitor it while away. I came home 2 days ago, but since this is the week I'm to increase my thyroid med, I'm going to wait a few more weeks to increase my fish oil dose. If I increased both at the same time and were to have unwanted symptoms, it would be unclear as to whether the med or the FO might be the culprit. I'll let you know when I increase my fish oil dose again. How about you? Have you continued with 1 Omega Rx every other day? |
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janet  Posts:901
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| 07/22/2009 5:46 PM |
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Sue, I am taking one cap of omega-rx every 3 days, as per your suggestion.....it's working out fine. |
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Sue K  Posts:9554
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| 07/22/2009 6:09 PM |
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Sue K  Posts:9554
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| 08/13/2009 8:51 AM |
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janet, this morning I took my fish oil dose to the next level that Barry S. suggested for me. I'll let you know how it goes. How about you, are you still at 1 Omega Rx every third day or have you tried increasing to 1 Eico Rx a day? |
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janet  Posts:901
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| 08/13/2009 11:09 AM |
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hi, Sue! Glad to see you're still on this thread! Still taking one omega every third day....with some digestive issues...(gas)... I am not against taking an Eico everday, just felt like I have all this omegarx in the freezer....and two of three are opened...(I know you have said Zone labs might cut me some kind of deal...and thank you for that) maybe when I get back from retreat I'll pursue this. Off to retreat for 10 da.!! Looking forward to going deeper in my spiritual practice. |
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Sue K  Posts:9554
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| 08/13/2009 11:24 AM |
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hi janet! Still sounds like you'd be better off with Eico Rx. It's made a huge difference for me since I switced to it 2 1/2 years ago. I was referring to the Zone Labs return policy. All it would take is a quick call to them or a LIVE CHAT , to see what to do. Have a relaxing retreat! What type(s) of discipline(s) do you practice? |
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janet  Posts:901
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| 08/13/2009 12:36 PM |
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Hi, Sue. I knew what you meant about the return policy. Thinking about doing that after retreat. I meditate...several diffrent types, but mostly quietly watch my breath...or sometimes, just sit and let my mind do nothing, which isn't as easy as it sounds....etc. Our group also does psychological processes in dyads and triads, which is a way of enquiring into our experience. i love it, but find it challenging. In my lifestyle there is a lot of "partying". I don't think there is anything wrong with that, but need to be mindful of what it is we are celebrating. As in, family, friends, love, etc. Thanks for asking, hope its not TMI.....janet |
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Sue K  Posts:9554
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| 08/13/2009 6:24 PM |
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| No, not too much! It's good to hear what others are doing. I practice meditation too. I kwym about not easy to clear the mind. I've been taught seveal methods, some that work for me better than others. It's always the easiest for me immediately following yoga when I take the time to tune out and integrate all the poses I just completed. |
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Lost 100 lbs 15 yrs ago, off BP meds, thanks to the Zone diet and Zone fish oil. ZoneFast is the best!
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