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Kerry User is Offline
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01/02/2009 9:04 PM
I have read that 6 oz of low fat milk is equal to one snack. Is that a p,c,and f block all rolled into one and is that a good snack to have before bed? Thanks!
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01/02/2009 9:45 PM
Actually, you can have 8 oz of lowfat milk. If you use 1% milk, it will also satisfy your fat block, as well as the protein and carb block. If you use skim milk, then add some fat, like almonds.
Margaret User is Offline
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01/02/2009 9:47 PM
Hi Kerry

I add cocoa to 8 ozs of soy milk and have it as a hot chocolate for my late night snack. It keeps me in the Zone. I used to do the same thing with milk before but have changed to soy.

Margaret
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01/02/2009 9:50 PM
OH, yes! I do enjoy that one, too. Just mixing in some unsweetened cocoa powder to some warm milk, and it tastes good. I don't miss the sweet!
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01/03/2009 10:07 PM
So is it safe to say that an 8 oz. glass of 1% would be suitable as 'breakfast' or that first meal after waking? Preparing a meal for me is out of the question and I'm trying to get together a list of go-to items that I can have on hand that don't require much 'thought' or preparation. If I could have a glass of milk and be done with that first 'meal' that'd be fantastic.
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01/03/2009 11:35 PM
ISOserenity, not quite. You can have a glass of milk as one complete block. But for breakfast, you need more blocks. Unless you do your snack first and then a complete 3 or 4 block breakfast within 2 hrs after the snack.

Just a suggestion, why not make your breakfast the night before and have it ready for you in the morning? You could make a quick smoothie and freeze it overnight. You can take it out when you wake up so that it has a chance to start thawing. As soon as I get my new blender, that is what I'm going to do so that I can have a nice frozen treat at Noon.

Happy Zoning!
Karen
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01/04/2009 12:31 AM
Hi, ISO!

Yes, you can have an 8 oz glass of milk as a complete food block. If you are looking for some easy meals, you can purchase the shake mixes that the Zone sells.
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01/04/2009 2:00 AM
Hi Karen,

It's not that easy for me to do a lot of fiddlin' with things at the moment so it's got to be a grab and go type situation. I am not going to be able to worry about blocks so I'm just going to try to follow the simple method with meals of filling 1/3 of the plate w/ protein & 2/3 with carbs & throwing in a bit of almonds or EVOO (which, btw, I use weekly in a sugar scrub during my shower for super skin!)

I'm thinking of something along the lines of a bake-off where I bake all my lean proteins and then finding a simple soup/chili that I can make & freeze single servings of so that I can grab and go.

I could simply increase the amount of milk to increase the blocks if need be.
Margaret User is Offline
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01/04/2009 5:21 AM
Hi ISO

Are you in a position to get some Zone bars? A Zone bar plus the 8ozs of milk is a filling breakfast. What about a Zone muffin and a glass of milk? Or Zone cereal and yoghurt.

I always make my breakfast the day before. It is usually a smoothie - I dont freeze it - just put it in the fridge and grab it with my lunch on the way out the door.

Margaret
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01/05/2009 5:11 AM
Hi Margaret,

Actually I'm a bit, okay, *really* particular about these things in the context of 'healthy'. Yes, I eat a lot of processed foods now, but my ideal is to eat as much raw/natural foods as I can. So, while I could possibly resort to eating stuff like that I think it's counter-productive. So, for instance, for the time being I will buy commercial milk but I feel that it's hugely unhealthy so at some point I'd prefer to be in the position to drink raw milk - and I'm in a position to do it in that I have a Jersey cow & two dairy goats but I don't have the time to really commit to twice a day or even regular once a day milking so it's difficult for me to both get milk from them (for myself) and keep their health in mind.

Additionally, this summer I *hope* to be able to raise a fairly significant garden & will freeze all that I can for future use as opposed to buying produce in a store that has been raised with chemicals & picked w/ shelf life in mind moreso than flavor & freshness, etc. (I also want to avoid anything genetically modified & will raise as many heritage varieties as I can as opposed to hybridized.)

Sooooo...it's not as simple, for me, as to buy what is available but also keep within those boundaries.
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01/05/2009 7:21 AM
Hi ISO

I like the bars for convenience.

I am going to start a veggie garden when we have finished doing our house improvements. I shop every Saturday at a Farmers Market where all the produce sold is grown by the farmers themselves. It clicked one day that I could be growing things just as well. We have been pretty busy over the months but I must try and do a bit towards this each week.

Margaret
Karen User is Offline
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01/05/2009 10:42 AM
Excellent idea about growing your own veggies. I've never tried growing tomatoes before, but I'm going to try this year. Problem with growing tomatoes down here is the birds - there are a lot of them and they love tomatoes! I also want to try my hand at green onions and cucumbers. I'll be doing everything in pots since I don't have a piece of land. We'll see how it goes. Any and all tips are welcomed!

Happy Zoning!
Karen
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01/05/2009 8:31 PM
ISO, I have a few chili recipes buried in these forums here and there. I think I named a thread "chili", so you could start there.

If you can't find it, I will dig it up and post again.

(or maybe Karen will come to my aid! She is good at bookmarking these things!)
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01/05/2009 8:55 PM
LOL! There was absolutely no suttlety in that request, CC! Ha! Ha!

Okay, here are CC's two chilis that she has shared her recipe with us for us to enjoy:



Here is my recipe for "Cinci Chili and Spaghetti"

Just a few notes: I add fat according to the fat content of my ground meat. So, if I use a really lean meat, I may have to saute in some oil. Or, if my meat has ample fat, then I use just a splash of oil for sauteeing.

The base recipe is 4 servings, each serving is 3P and 2C (and depends on your fat adjustment). If you add the toppings listed below, you will round out the carb to 3 C. I only use a sprinkling of cheese, or sometimes I cut back on the ground meat, so that I can add more cheese. I don't use enough onion topping to make a difference. I DO count the beans for my 3rd block of carb, though.

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Cincinnati Chili Recipe
1 large onion chopped (1 C)
18 oz extra-lean ground beef (12 P)
olive oil for sauteing the onion and ground beef-amount is dependent on the fat content of the ground meat
1 clove garlic, minced
1 tablespoon chili powder
1 teaspoon ground allspice
1 teaspoon ground cinnamon
1 teaspoon ground cumin
1/2 teaspoon red (cayenne) pepper
1/2 teaspoon salt
1 1/2 tbsp unsweetened cocoa or 1/2 ounce grated unsweetened chocolate
1 (15-ounce) can tomato puree (3 C)
1 tablespoon Worcestershire sauce
1 tablespoon cider vinegar
1/2 cup water
4 cups cooked spaghetti squash (4 C)
Toppings (see below)

In a large frying pan over medium-high heat, saute onion, ground beef, garlic, and chili powder until ground beef is slightly cooked. Add allspice, cinnamon, cumin, cayene pepper, salt, unsweetened cocoa or chocolate, tomato sauce, Worcestershire sauce, cider vinegar, and water. Reduce heat to low and simmer, uncovered, 1 1/2 hours. Remove from heat.
Cook spaghetti squash and transfer onto individual serving plates (small oval plates are traditional).
Ladle chili over spaghetti squash and serve with toppings of your choice.

Cincinnati chili lovers order their chili by number. Two, Three, Four, or Five Way. Let your guest create their own final product.
Two-Way Chili: Chili served on spaghetti
Three-Way Chili: Additionally topped with shredded Cheddar cheese
Four-Way Chili: Additionally topped with chopped onions
Five-Way Chili: Additionally topped with kidney beans
Makes 4 servings.

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Here is another recipe that I posted back in July. It cooks up similar to Wendy's chili, too. The recipe was configured to zone blocks, but after copy/pasting several times, the symbols no longer worked (just in case you are wondering what the jibberish is behind each ingredient).

Ingredients:
18oz ground beef 10% lean ⎘P]
6oz mozzarella cheese ΔP]
3 cup onion (petal) ΐC]
2 cup green pepper (chopped)ΏC]
2 cup red pepper (chopped)ΏC]
4 cup tomato (chopped) ΐ.5C]
2-12oz cans V8 juice ΒC]
3/4 cup canned tomato puree Ώ.5C]
1-1/2cup black beans ΔC]
6 tsp olive oil separate ⎞F]
chili powder
onion powder
nutmeg
basil
allspice
cinnamon
parsley
cilantro
crushed red pepper
sage


Directions:

Brown ground beef, salt & pepper and some spices in 3 tsp of oil.

Place all other ingredients in crock-pot, except for cheese.

Add 2 cups of water. Add browned meat. Add spices to taste. (there is no science to spices, just add as much as you like)

Cook in crock-pot for several hours until hot through out, stirring occasionally.

Divide into 6 serving (2-cup servings) bowls and top each with 1 oz of cheese. May be frozen/refrigerated for later consumption.

Remark: Makes six 3-block meals, 2 cups each


Enjoy everyone!

Happy Zoning!
Karen
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01/05/2009 8:56 PM
LOL!

BTW, in that second recipe, there was something wrong with the way that I had copy/pasted that recipe, so those symbols behind the ingredients used to represent the number of blocks. Sorry. Someday, I will have to fix that!
Margaret User is Offline
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01/06/2009 5:29 AM
Hi Karen

I was so excited tonight for dinner. I picked the coral (red lettuce) and green lettuce plus baby spinach that I am growing. It was delicious and fresh!!! Most of my veggies are in pots until we get the raised veggie beds done.

A lady at work grows heaps of veggies and said with garlic just stick the little segments from the bulbs anyway!! If you see some dirt - stick it in!! I have 3 seperate tomato pots - they are different varieties. Caterpillers got into one or two of them so had to spray. No pests ate the lettuce which is good.

Re your problem with the birds. Why dont you just surround the tomatoes with netting on sticks or wire so the birds cant get to them.

Funny thing ... I am growing cucumbers but have put them in a long rectangle pot which is probably way too small. They have started to grow very quickly so it will be interesting to see just how far they climb over the side of the pot!

Our markets start up again on 10 January. I am hanging out for these - I dont want to buy from the shops as the produce starts to wilt by the time you get home.

Margaret
Karen User is Offline
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01/06/2009 11:47 AM
Oh, Margaret, I'm so envious! I'm going to put my pots on my patio, which is quite large. It doesn't get a lot of sun because it is covered by a balcony and has a 4' wooden fence around it, but it is the best I can do. Hope the veggies will grow - I'm going to use Miracle Grow to see if that will help. Thanks for the tip on netting. Everyone covers their tomato plants down here with netting or chicken wire. Unfortunately, the birds are smart and get through it, but sometimes they get caught and hurt themselves - so sad. Thanks for the heads up on making sure I get a big enough pot for the cucumbers. I'm going to start my plants in April - can't wait!

Sue, my provider is at the store right now getting everything for turkey burger taco salad so that I can have it tomorrow. Oh, my mouth is watering already for it!

CC, guess what I'm having tonight? Your fabulous chili!

I so appreciate all the help everyone offers re: food tips, recipes, etc. It makes it so much easier!

Happy Zoning!
Karen
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01/07/2009 8:34 AM
Enjoy it Karen! I had it for lunch yesterday!
Cranberrycat User is Offline
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01/07/2009 10:55 PM
I am really glad that you liked my chili. Makes me feel good to hear that I have helped someone!
Karen User is Offline
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01/07/2009 11:11 PM
CC, you've helped me soooo many times! I've lost count! LOL! But seriously, I love that chili. I'm going to try Kerry's, too. Then someday I will have the Cincinnati chili. Can you tell I like chili? LOL!

Mexican day tomorrow ... right now I'm leaning towards having the taco burger salad with plenty of jalapenos for breakfast. Every once in a while I like a nice HOT spicy breakfast or as they say down here 'la mexicana'. I used to have it about two times a week, but I can't come up with a recipe for what I used to have to fit the Zone. It's just not the same. Darn!

Happy Zoning!
Karen
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