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Deborah User is Offline
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04/20/2009 2:13 PM
Well, here's the accurate answer to your question about the broccoli. You're right that 4 cups raw equals 1 carb block (about 9 grams of net carbohydrate). However, due to various effects of the cooking, 3 cups cooked broccoli equals 12 grams of net carbohydrate which is 1 1/3 carb blocks. I really don't think that 1/3 of a block is of any importance, but that's the nature of that particular beast.
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04/20/2009 2:55 PM
I wouldn't really worry so much about a 1/3 block, either. And, being that even 3 cups of broccoli is difficult to eat in one sitting, I guess it is good to know that if I can't finish it all, that I have a little leeway! LOL!

Since I have your attention, can you address onions at all? This is one food item that just doesn't make sense to me. The Zone block list shows that chopped raw onions measure out at 1.5 cups per block. But, using the database that I use, one cup of chopped raw onion is 12g net carb, so I can't imagine that 1.5 cups would even be close to one block of chopped raw onion.

The only thing that makes sense to me is that maybe measuring by cups is not as accurate, and that a weight measurement might give a better picture as to how much raw onion is equal to a carb block? It looks like one medium whole onion (raw) is closer to a block of carb, at 115g, so maybe some people can really "stuff it in" the measuring cup, while others kind of pack it more loosely?


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Deborah User is Offline
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04/20/2009 4:47 PM
Of course you are right that there is some variability due to measuremnet. However, here is my approach based on Corinne Netzer's book. 1 cup of raw onion contains 13.8 g total carb and 2.6 g fiber, i.e. 11.2 g net carbohydrate, which is a little more than 1 block (9 g). Therefore 1 block is technically a little less than 1 cup. As a rule of thumb, I have always used 1 c raw onion = 1 carbohydrate block, and it has worked for me for 13 years in the Zone. Hope this helps.
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04/20/2009 4:58 PM
Thank you so much for this information, Deborah! As CC said, the timing couldn't be better as few of us have been discussing this quite a bit the past couple of days. Your explanation is exactly what sue said. It's also good to know where the orginal amounts were based from. That was one of the questions we had! As CC said, this all started because a CrossFitter mentioned a website with a Zone spreadsheet that used the original quantities ! LOL!

I'm very interested in the website you are preparing. Can't wait to see it! Thanks for sharing!

Happy Zoning!
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04/20/2009 7:25 PM
I have to chime in here as well. This has been the topic of conversation and the timing could not be better. I am happy to hear there is a physician posting on here who not only does the zone but really has done their homework with it. That is refreshing. I can't tell you the number of people I know who go to the Dr. they tell them to clean up their diet, but don't give them the tools to do it. Thank you for standing out in that respect. I too look forward to your site.

Thank you too for confirming the ball park method, since each of us does measure a bit differently as well as each piece of something being variable as well.

sue

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04/20/2009 9:21 PM
<div class='NTForums_Quote'>Posted By Deborah on 04/20/2009 4:47 PM
Of course you are right that there is some variability due to measuremnet. However, here is my approach based on Corinne Netzer's book. 1 cup of raw onion contains 13.8 g total carb and 2.6 g fiber, i.e. 11.2 g net carbohydrate, which is a little more than 1 block (9 g). Therefore 1 block is technically a little less than 1 cup. As a rule of thumb, I have always used 1 c raw onion = 1 carbohydrate block, and it has worked for me for 13 years in the Zone. Hope this helps.</div>

Deborah,
thanks again for your statement on the onion thing. I guess it is refreshing to me to hear you say that you basically do the same as I do with onions. Even though the block list says 1.5 cups is a block, I have never gone with that measurement, either. The original Zone block list had it right, and I have never understood why it was changed, except that perhaps it was because of variabilities in measuring.

We (speaking for myself, Karen and sue) were discussing some block discrepencies via email, and then your post showed up, and it was very helpful!

I also appreciate your input. I am not one to take things for face value, and I guess I like knowing more of the "why" behind things.


Cranberrycat

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