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Deborah  Posts:51
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| 06/28/2009 7:02 PM |
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I have seen a few mentions of P90X exercise program in these forums. not sure exactly where. Currently i exercise intermittently and am not fit, but not a total couch potato either. I would like to hear from any Zoners who have also done P90X -------- what were your experinces / results. thanks in advance! |
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Christina  Posts:355
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| 06/29/2009 6:14 AM |
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Deborah, I had the same questions, but my understanding it was sort of a boot camp type of training. I was flipping through channels over the weekend and they were on the home shopping or qvc channel. I caught the end of it, but they were selling the dvds with resistance bands and they were doing boxing moves and sit ups and push ups. It was pretty interesting. |
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George  Posts:32
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| 06/29/2009 9:26 AM |
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I haven'r done it myself but am going off the results of two people I know who did it faithfully. Both had there eating in check (as far as I know) and both did the program to spec. Unfortunately for them it didn't produce the results they were after. Neither had a drastic change in either bodyfat percentages or lean muscle gain. I'm not saying that's how it is for everybody, only the two I know who did it. They than started doing Crossfit and within 6-8 weeks (at least for the one who I keep in constant contact with) his results have been great. Strength and LBM are both up, and fat % is down. He mentioned how great he feels on it. I can also vouch for Crossfit as it has helped me go from 314 lbs. to 252.o (as of this morning) in the last 6.5 months while still maintaining/increasing my strength and increasing my LBM, and drastically increasing my health and fitness level. Check it out: www.crossfit.com Some other really great things about it are it focuses on health, is never boring, always challenging, and is a whole lot cheaper (it's free). Good luck in whatever you choose. |
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Kim  Posts:1
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| 06/29/2009 5:03 PM |
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I have had a great experience with P90X and have known many, many people who have as well. It is important to know that it is not intended as a weight loss program, per se. It is intended to help fit people get really ripped. I lost 4 lbs but went from 22% to 16% body fat. Crossfit is also great, but certainly not for someone new to training. Women, in particular, find the Olympic lifts to be something that they need to ease into. Personally, I love Crossfit, but would have never been able to tackle it had I not done P90X first. The Crossfit website is very informative and in complete alignment with the Zone eating plan. Good luck with your decision. KC |
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George  Posts:32
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| 06/29/2009 8:21 PM |
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Congrats on the bodyfat drop Kim; that's awesome! As I said, I am only going off the results of two people. That's wonderful that so many people have found success using it. However, I think Crossfit is actually perfect for someone who is untrained and just starting out. Reasons being: 1) Scaling-they are big on scaling the workouts to your fitness level or ability. They go step by step on how to scale for certain levels of fitness. Beginner, intermediate or advanced, it's for everyone. 2) Focus on technique-this is one of the biggest reasons I think beginners should go to Crossfit. You learn proper exercise technique right off the bat. This will save years (literally) of time and effort. See all the people in the gym doing half benches, doing crunches and muscling up cleans (if you even see anyone doing cleans in a commercial gym)? Dollars to dohnuts they aren't superfit/ripped/powerful people. Technique is everything. 3) Fitness-the focus on all areas of fitness make it ideal in terms of dropping fat, gaining functional strength, and having phenomenal cardiovascular fitness. Looking for longevity in your life? Crossfit is the answer (at least in my opinion). 4) Exercise selection-no useless exercises here. You won't find cables, pec decs, etc... . All exercises serve a purpose. The focus is on increasing your functional ability. Squats, deadlifts, cleans, pullups, sit ups, etc...; all functional and all amazing compound movements. Only the best. And the exercises can be learned. You aren't the first and won't be the last person who doesn't know the exercises. Just study them, get your form down, and then get to work (if you can get Mark Rippetoe's book 'Starting Strength' the Bible of exercise technique). 5) No wasted effort-The workouts are quick, intense and furious. You're not wasting valuable effort where you don't have to. The warm up, than the workout. 6) Can be done at home-you don't absolutely need to have access to the gym. The bodyweight workouts are great. Is it an ideal situation? Nope. However is it better than most other alternatives? I would say yes. 7) Support group-it's like a big family. Everyone helps each other out. Have a question? Ask it in the forums. You will get a lot of useful answers. I ask lots of questions (actually more than lots) and am given thought out, and very useful answers each time. Crossfitters are some of the nicest people I have ever met, with no hidden agenda. They (we) are around to help in any manner we can. 8) They love the Zone <img src='http://www.zonediet.com/desktopmodules/ntforums/images/emoticons/smile.gif' height='20' width='20' border='0' title='Smile' align='absmiddle'> I could put more but I don't want to sound like a shill. Does P90X work? I'm sure it does. Does 5/3/1/ work? Yip. Does Power To The People work? Not sure actually (but that is what I am going to be doing next; it sounds like fun). Does Crossfit work? One hundred thousand percent yes; when you are able to give it the intensity it calls for will you hurt? Yip. Will you want to give up? Most definitely. Will you see results faster than you imagined? I would not be surprised (look at the testimonials forum; amazing stuff). I only wish I started with Crossfit when I first began training. I would have saved years of effort (at times useless) and LOTS of injuries. And the good thing is you don't have to have crazy intensity right off the bat. You scale to what you are able to do and will soon be doing the workouts as Rx'd. To start I would pick some of the bodyweight only workouts and get yourself used to resistance exewrcise first (good point Kim). Don't worry to much about your time, or distance, etc...; just scale to what you feel your abilities are (i.e.-says run 5 K for time. Scale it to run 1 or 2 K for time; even jog it or trot it). Here is a link to the bodyweight workouts. It is in the first post by Shane Skowron: http://www.board.crossfit.com/showthread.php?t=38312 Anyway I have rambled on long enough. Sorry about that. Good luck with everything. George |
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Christina  Posts:355
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| 06/29/2009 9:48 PM |
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| Awesome stats George. |
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3/9 Start 245, 3/16- 240lbs, 3/23 -237lbs, 3/30 -234lbs, 4/6-231lbs, 4/13-229lbs, 4/20-227.5lbs, 4/27-225lbs, 5/4-223lbs, 5/11-223lbs, 5/18-221lbs, 5/25- 220lbs, 5/28-219pounds, 6/1- 217lbs, 6/6- 216, 6/15-216, 6/18 -215 (yeah 30 pounds), 6/25-- 215, 7/6- 218 (Ugh), 7/13- 213, 7/21- 211, 8/10- 210.5, 8/15- 208, 9/8--211, 9/16 - 207, yeah 11/9- 215  |
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Deborah  Posts:51
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| 06/30/2009 1:47 PM |
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Thank you all for your responses. much appreciated! George --------- i know a little about Crossfit. do you think it is something a middle aged, overweight woman, who currently exercises intermittently could even begin to do? or would there be something else to start with and "work my way up" to something more? |
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Deborah  Posts:51
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| 06/30/2009 1:52 PM |
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| George --------- forgot to ask you this ------ it's free? there are places here that have Crossfit, however they are not free. If i don't have a lot of experience in the type of things they do, how would i even know what to do, much less correctly ---- if it's free? |
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George  Posts:32
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| 06/30/2009 2:36 PM |
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Hi Deborah. In terms of cost, it will cost you (a very worthy invenstment) if you wish to attend a Crossfit gym and their routines as layed out. What I usually mention to people who can't/won't want to pay the cost of a membership is throw down some money for a couple hours/few hours of personal training so they could show you the correct form for exercises. That will put you leagues ahead of many other people who think they have great form. And if this doesn't work for you, ask questions. Go on the forums and ask away; concerns, opinions, etc... . You'll catch on much faster than you think. Regarding your question of you being middle aged, out of shape, etc... go to the testimonials page, or just ask if there are any people on the forums who are middle aged and out of shape females. You will be shocked at the amount of women who started in your very position. |
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Michael  Posts:7
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| 06/30/2009 11:01 PM |
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Deborah
If you go to www.crossfit.com there is a section where they show videos of how to do the exercises. Most of the exercises dont need to be in a gym. Its about being functional in the movements like squats, push-ups, etc. If you do join a gym it will increase the activities that you can do though. |
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Bob  Posts:1
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| 07/06/2009 11:32 PM |
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| Have been on P90x for 6 months. Lost 30 lbs and 4 pant sizes. Weight is not coming off that fast anymore but continue to lose inches. was on the Zone and P90x while aboard a 128 day cruise and lost weight. 5 others from the trip bought P90x before getting off the ship so it would ba at thier house by the time they got home. Many neighbors have commented on how fit I look and how you could lose weight on a ship. They now have started P90x. I would recomend it to everyone. You can start at any level. In time you will be able to keep up with them in the videos |
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Sue K  Posts:8666
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| 07/07/2009 8:27 AM |
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| Congrats on your accomplishemnts Bob! |
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Lost 100 lbs 14 yrs ago, off BP meds, thanks to the Zone diet and Zone fish oil!
To view my before/after pics and meal photos scroll over this picture and click when the link appears.
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Janice  Posts:1
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| 07/07/2009 4:56 PM |
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Dear Swimfit, I don't usually participate in forums, but when I read your question, I just had to reply. In November of 2007, I was 52, weighed a miserable 265 lbs and had a waist/hip measurements of 50 & 56 inches. I went to my physician to ask for a referral for bariatric surgery. Happily, she refused and when I said I didn't know how to exercise, insisted I learn how. I started with a personal trainer and after a few weeks found out I was actually doing crossfit routines that had been scaled to my poor fitness level. I am currently 85 lbs lighter, wear a size 12 and my waist is 35 inches. In December 2008, I ran my first competitive 5K. I still have room for progress and just started on the zone diet. But, at age 54 I practice crossfit 5 days a week and really love it. Well not all of the exercises. I especially hate burpees. But I can do things now I couldn't do in my 20's!. Try it, I'm glad I did. |
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Sarah  Posts:27
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| 07/26/2009 7:25 PM |
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Deborah, I've done P90X in the past along with various other home fitness programs. It's a great program, but I do think it is better to work your way up to P90X if you're not already relatively fit and working out consistently. It's definitely an advanced program. Have you ever tried the FIRM? A few years ago when I first started on the Zone, I did the FIRM workout videos and I lost over 50 pounds in a year. The FIRM is great for exercisers of all fitness levels and there are tons of different FIRM workouts available to combat boredom. Alternatively, you could try a program like Power 90, which is the beginner-intermediate level of P90X, led by the same instructor, Tony Horton. I'm a Beachbody coach, so feel free to check out my website for more info on Power 90, P90X and other Beachbody programs: http://www.beachbodycoach.com/Sarah79 Good luck! |
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Dr. Barry Sears is a leading authority on the dietary control of hormonal response. A former research scientist at the Boston University School of Medicine and the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, Dr. Sears has dedicated his research efforts over the past 30 years to the study of lipids. He holds 13 U.S. Patents in the areas of intravenous drug delivery systems and hormonal regulation for the treatment of cardiovascular disease.
A turning point in his research occurred in 1982. That year, the Nobel Prize in Medicine was awarded for discoveries of the role that specialized hormones, known as eicosanoids, play in the development of cardiovascular disease, diabetes, auto-immune diseases, and cancer. Since eicosanoids are only generated from dietary fat, Dr. Sears reasoned that one could apply intravenous drug delivery principles to nutrition in order to control these exceptionally powerful hormonal responses with laser-like precision. In essence, his approach treats food as if it were a drug.
This area of his research led to various patents in the area of hormonal control by essentially using food as an oral drug delivery system to modulate eicosanoids especially for cardiovascular, diabetic, and neurological patients.
The impact of Dr. Sears’ revolutionary work in the dietary control of hormonal response began with the publication of his landmark book, The Zone. Since its publication in June 1995, The Zone has sold more than 2,000,000 hardcover copies, and became a #1 best seller on the New York Times book list. In addition, The Zone has been translated into 22 languages indicating a worldwide response to Dr. Sears’ research. His second book, Mastering the Zone, published in 1997, also became a New York Times bestseller with hardcover sales in excess of 500,000 copies to date. His third book, Zone Perfect Meals in Minutes, published in 1997, quickly became one of the best-selling cookbooks of 1997 and an another New York Times bestseller. The Anti-Aging Zone was published in 1999 and provides the molecular insights into how the Zone Diet can reverse the aging process. The Omega Rx Zone, published in 2002, explores the molecular foundation of chronic disease and how high-dose fish oil can dramatically reverse it. His latest book The Anti-Inflammation Zone discusses how to combat silent inflammation in order to reduce the risk of cancer, heart disease, diabetes, dementia, and many other inflammatory conditions—and how to reverse these conditions if they are already present. To date more than 5 million hardcover copies of his Zone books have been sold in the United States.
His research has elevated food from more than simply a source of calories to being recognized as an exceptionally powerful drug. Because of his revolutionary research, Dr. Sears has been a frequent guest on many national programs such as 20/20, Today, Good Morning America, CBS Morning News, CNN, and MSNBC.
Dr. Sears continues his ongoing research as President of Zone Labs, a biotechnology company in Danvers, MA as well as the President of the non-profit Inflammation Research Foundation in Marblehead, MA. In addition to continuing research on the hormonal effects of food, Dr. Sears has expanded his research in developing innovative dietary approaches to treating cancer and neurological conditions, as well as his on-going work in treating cardiovascular diease and type 2 diabetes.
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I have been taking the Fish Oil for over 3 years now. I am 44 playing hockey and working out. The Fish oil helps with the pain that I get from playing hockey. It greatly enhances my performance on the ice and while working out. I have noticed a big difference in my energy, attentiveness and memory. If I miss a day for whatever reason, I notice a huge difference and it feels like something is missing. Anyway that is my short little story and it comes from the heart.
– Carter B.
I am a nutritionist and Ph.D. doctor of health and nutrition. For Dr. Sears to figure out balancing fat, carbs and protein, is really beyond brilliant. It is a milestone in diet history. I go over people's diet/emotional journals. Mostly all the time, we discover that the fatigue, irritability, unstable emotions were due to the imbalance in their diet. Using the Zone to balance them out, helps control weight, roller coaster emotions and gives them energy. Dr. Sears is so right when he says food is medicine. He has figured out the most powerful drug combination going, called The Zone.
Best and healthy wishes,
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I have a very exhausting job as a flight attendant. I read the "Omega Rx Zone" about 4 years ago and started taking the fish oil. I am 47 and have been flying for 22 years. I am very active, I run and lift weights. But combining lack of regular sleep, a physically demanding job, and irregular eating patterns this job takes a toll on the body. Since taking the fish oil, I have noticed that I do not get exhausted. I get tired, but not exhausted. I stopped taking it for a couple of months and then started taking another company's fish oil. I started getting exhausted again. I came back to Zone Labs and will continue with the fish oil for the rest of my life. I believe in the product and it makes a huge difference in my life. It makes a difference with my running as well. I also bring the bars and shakes with me on the road. It is almost impossible to eat the way I should at work. I haven't found the right secret. At least I have my Zone fish oil, bars, and shakes.
– Kathryn S.
I have been in the Zone, for about 1 month now. I wanted to share with you how wonderful I think this program is. I have been a personal trainer for almost 10 years and actively compete in numerous athletic activities. The Zone program has helped me to achieve a better awareness of my nutritional needs and the results I have seen are amazing! I have lost nearly 13 lbs since I have been in the Zone. I feel more mentally alert, more focused at work, have greater intensity during my training, have made significant strength gains, and just feel better over all. With that said, I would like to thank you for helping me in my quest for "super-health"!
Thank you!
– Rob Y.
I read 'The Zone' and as exactly as I could followed the advice for diet. I noted weight loss progress. Over six months, I lost 33 pounds. One year has passed since then. I have maintained the new weight, guided always by Zone concepts. The Zone is powerful - I have found it fantastic and I am very grateful to Dr Sears.
– Lyn S.
Before I stumbled across the Zone I was weighing close to two hundred pounds and I was depressed. I used to be a gymnast as a young man. I would think, "look at me now," when I looked in a mirror. The day I found 'The Zone' book, I was intrigued and as I read it the science made sense and so, I began to follow the "treatment". I began to lose weight and I was feeling way more energetic. I am forty two years old, I am very active and my weight is down to 162 lbs, 38 pounds lost on the Zone. I cycle, walk, jog, swim and I can now perform some of the more simple gymnastic skills I did twenty years ago...I literally feel like I have turned back the clock.
Thank you!
– Jack J.
I have been on the Zone diet for 7 years. I did not go on the diet to lose weight necessarily; but fairly quickly I lost 25 pounds, going from 190 to 165; from a 36-inch waist to a 32-inch waist. I primarily did the Zone to live healthier. My health is excellent now. I just turned 62 years old. My Zone is my eating lifestyle now; I seldom stray; and I do not miss anything. It is The Good Life.
– Curtis Y.
My wife's doctor told her to read "Enter the Zone" and to do the diet, so I told her I would do it with her. After only one week on the plan we went on a strenuous hike (the first of the year), and when we stopped at our favorite coffee shop on the way home I was able to get out of the car and stand upright and walk into the place without pain or stiffness. The Zone had eliminated all the inflammation that had always forced me to stumble all humped over into the coffee shop any time we skied or hiked all day.
Thank you, Doctor Sears.
– Larry C.
I used to have a lot of knee pain when I walked or ran. I have been taking Omega Rx for almost a year now, and rarely have any pain. I believe it is the anti-inflammation action of the oil. I feel smarter as well. Thanks for developing such a superior oil!
– Joe W.
Prior to following the Zone Diet, my body fat was around 15% and my weight around 153 pounds. No matter what I did, my weight and body fat did not change much. I regularly cycled 20-30 hours per week logging well over 400 miles. That had little impact on body fat or weight. Diet also seemed to have little impact on body fat or weight. Within a couple of months of following the zone diet, my weight dropped rather quickly to 142 pounds and body fat to about 8%. I still regularly cycle up to 20 hours per week (during the summer). I have also started strength training. I eat about 16 blocks per day. I take 3.6 grams of fish oil per day, along with Vitamin E, Alpha Lipoic Acid, CoQ10, and B & C vitamins. I also take GLA, which in my opinion, has significantly reduced fatigue and improved recovery times after exercise.
– Jeremy S.
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All polyphenols have antioxidant properties than can be measured by their Oxygen Radical Absorption Capacity (ORAC), but not all polyphenols have anti-inflammatory properties. The polyphenols in Dr. Sears’ Zone Polyphenol Plus have been carefully chosen to have both.
Polyphenols are the phytochemicals that not only give fruits and vegetables their color, but also help regulate inflammation. In addition, polyphenols also activate the key enzyme (AMP kinase) that helps restore cellular ATP levels. Polyphenols also help regulate the activation of inducible inflammatory proteins (such as COX-2 and inflammatory cytokines).
There are more than 4,000 known polyphenols, and the richest sources are fruits and vegetables. In general, the more color a fruit or vegetable has, the richer the polyphenol content.
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Zone Labs’ Ultra Refined Omega-3 Concentrates are three times fresher and contain less than 1/10th the mercury than what is allowed by the Norwegian Medicinal Standard and European Pharmacopoeia Standard
Zone Labs adheres to the International Fish Oil Standard (IFOS), an independent third party validated laboratory quality standard that is more rigid than any other global standard for purity.
- No company in the worlds runs more tests with IFOS than Zone Labs
- Zone Labs receives a 5 out of 5 star IFOS rating for every batch it tests
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< 3.75 meg/kg |
5 meg/kg |
10 meg/kg |
10 meg/kg |
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< 20 meg/kg |
26 meg/kg |
NA |
NA |
| Lead |
< 10 ppb |
10 ppb |
100 ppb |
100 ppb |
| Mercury |
< 10 ppb |
10 ppb |
100 ppb |
100 ppb |
| Dioxans and Furans |
< 1 ppt |
2 ppt |
2 ppt |
2 ppt |
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90 ppb |
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"IFOS – THE TOP GLOBAL PURITY STANDARD FOR OMEGA-3 FROM FISH"
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Zone Labs products show no detectable lead or mercury when tested down to 10ppb, which is 10 times below the Norwegian Medicinal Standard and European Pharmacopoeia Standard limits.
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Zone Labs products are three times fresher than the minimum allowed by the Norwegian Medicinal Standard and European Pharmacopoeia Standards (based on average peroxide values).
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Zone Labs starts with only wild, small fish from pristine Chilean waters and ends with proprietary validation and testing processes to achieve an IFOS certified 5 star rating.
8-Step Manufacturing Process - Quality Assured
Testing to specification all raw materials, bulk products, packaging material and finished products – always using stringent internal standards and in-process testing.
- Extraction of fish oil
- Winterization – remove limited amounts of saturated fats
- Absorption – remove heavy metals
- Preliminary Molecular Distillation – refining “touch up” to reduce contaminants
- Oil conversion to ethyl esters
- Ethyl ester thermal fractionation – remove additional saturated fats
- True Molecular Distillation – final refining to remove pcb’s and long-chain monoenes
- Rigid Processes – proprietary validation, inspection and encapsulation methods. Independent lab verification of IFOS requirements and certified 5 star rating
No farmed fish. No large fish. Pristine waters.
Zone Labs starts with wild sardines & anchovies fished from cold, pristine waters off of South America where there are less environmental impurities.
A recommended serving of Zone Labs Ultra-Refined Concentrates delivers 8 times more omega-3’s than a typical retail fish oil supplement.
Most fish oil supplements have 30% or less of the healthy omega-3s EPA and DHA, with the remaining 70% of the capsule containing unbeneficial, lesser refined fatty acids that contribute to their bad taste and gastric side effects.
Getting a clinically valid dose of omega-3’s is easy with Zone Labs’ Ultra-Refined Omega-3 Concentrates.
Typical Retail Dose = 300mg omega-3
Standard Zone Dose = 2400mg omega-3
A serving of canned tuna has 12 times less omega-3’s than
Zone Labs Ultra-Refined Omega-3 Concentrates
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Commonly consumed fish and shellfish in the United States
Mercury Source: Food and Drug Administration, FDA 1900-2004, “National Marine Fisheries Service Survey of Trace Elements in the Fishery Resource". Omega-3 Level Source: American Heart Association Website.
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< 0.01 |
2400 (standard 4 capsule serving |
| Salmon (fresh, frozen) |
0.014 |
1200 |
| Flounder or sole |
0.050 |
480 |
| Pollock |
0.041 |
450 |
| Crab |
0.060 |
400 |
| Scallops |
0.050 |
290 |
| Shrimp |
ND* |
290 |
| Catfish |
0.050 |
270 |
| Clams |
ND* |
250 |
| Cod |
0.095 |
210 |
| Canned Tuna (light) |
0.120 |
200 |
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Zone Labs’ leading product. OmegaRx delivers all of the benefits of Zone Labs’ ultra-refined omega-3 concentrates.
Advantages
- Delivers clinically proven health benefits from the omega-3 fatty acids EPA and DHA*
- Promotes a healthy heart, healthy brain, healthy immune system, healthy circulatory system, healthy joints, healthy moods, healthy triglyceride levels and a healthy pregnancy*
- Combats silent inflammation
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