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Matt  Posts:306
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| 03/05/2009 12:07 PM |
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Getting favourable carbs is going to be very difficult.
My first thought would be to try and get 1 block of favourable carb per meal and replace the other blocks with a 3x fat block. As Zoners we burn fat for energy so the additional unfavourable carbs are really not needed for "energy".
So a meal could be 3 P, 1 C & 9 F. More fat if your protein source is too lean. If you can get 2 favourable blocks of Carb then 3P, 2C and 6F.
I actually do this now when I don't feel like eating all my carbs. My energy levels have been good and I've had no negative body comp issues doing this.
It would really depend on how many days/meals are required and what kind of weight you will be carrying. Is there a place to restock during the trip?
I haven't looked at the dehydrated foods in the store. I do make my own for the kids and I snack on them once in a while. What about dehydrated vegetables? Green beans, squash might be better than the dried fruits.
Have a blast on your trip and please report back on what worked or didn't work for you.
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Matt  Posts:306
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| 03/05/2009 1:31 PM |
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Kevin, I just read your post.
There are people in the Crossfit community using basically a mixture of what I described in my last post. Once the body is being fueled by fat those carbs are not needed like we all have been accustomed to in the past.
I have not participated in any long treks like you have and I'm basing this off of what I have read but I see a lot of changes in how the endurance athletes are fueling themselves.
Also everyone is different and depending on how they have been fueling themselves for their training in the past may be able to handle different levels of macronutrients.
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Jeanine  Posts:12
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| 03/05/2009 1:50 PM |
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Thanks for all of your help all!
I'm really not that worried about my blocks with respect to my pack weight (thanks for pointing that out Paul) . I'm active as is. I've decided that the best thing to do is supplement dehydrated food with foil packaged tuna and chicken (they make 'em without can's these day) to raise the p to c ratio. I'll let y'all know if I have any profound revelations on the trek for future use.
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Sue K  Posts:8674
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| 03/05/2009 2:26 PM |
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| Youre' welcome Jeanine! |
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Lost 100 lbs 14 yrs ago, off BP meds, thanks to the Zone diet and Zone fish oil!
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Kevin  Posts:38
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| 03/05/2009 2:31 PM |
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I bought the first Zone book sometime in 1995 and followed it carefully for years. I never found it helped my running much. I found after my sunday long runs (4-5 hours) I would not be as sore or tired as in the carb-loading days. But I would run out of energy and end up walking some the end of the run. Adding fat blocks didn't help. In fact it seemed to make matters worse.
My understanding is the body uses carbs for instant energy. At low heart rates the body is burning mostly fat but always with a small amount of carb. The Krebs cycle demands it. I believe the Zone diet depletes the body of stored glycogen in liver and muscles. Once that's gone, you're toast. Training lowers your resting heart rate which suggests while running a lower percentage of carb is being used along with fat.
So for me it's a matter of finding the minimum amount of protein to maintain muscle strength and at least double the amount of carbs that the book suggests. I tried Zone bars for the long runs but they didn't make much difference. I assume the protein slowed the absorption of carb, the opposite of what I needed when running. For me candy bars worked better.
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Cranberrycat  Posts:5313
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| 03/05/2009 3:21 PM |
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Jeanine, I wish you well on your trek! Certainly, come back and share your experience, as it seems we all have a difference of opinion on how to accomplish a task like that! Since I am not "athletically inclined", I am sure I would not be able to do a trek on the same scale as you are planning, but I would like to do a backpacking trip at some point in the near future. So, any suggestions from your experience would be very much welcome. The foiled tuna idea is great! I normally pack those on my camping trips. When I go camping, it isn't a cush-cush trip. And, since space is very limited, I don't like hauling my kitchen pantry along. Plus, I don't like having to run to a grocery store to stock up on veggies. So, my carb staples are generally a bit more on the "higher-glycemic" side, things that are not going to require refrig and are easy to pack. Although, I imagine that taking apples along is probably going to increase the weight in your pack. I have not had any significant problems staying in the Zone when I am camping. I don't have spells of hypoglycemia, I don't have early hunger, etc. |
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Richard  Posts:1
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| 03/18/2009 8:01 PM |
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Zone cereal with powdered milk is an obvious choice. This stuff is great! It is the first cereal I have been able to eat in my life without getting the shakes an hour later. Zone bars work great for snacks, although if they are chocolate coated they may melt. Balance Bare bars work better for this reason. Trail mix is a little low in protein, but you can fix that by eating jerky along with it. For lunch, cheese keeps fine for a few days without refrigeration. Hard cheeses keep longer. You can doctor up freeze dried meals to make them more zone friendly. For instance, a serving of Backpackers Pantry Stroganoff has 30 grams of carbs, 11 grams of protein and 10 grams of fat. Adding dried ground beef equivalent to 1-1/2 oz of regular ground beef adds 11 grams of protein and almost no fat, resulting in a meal that is close to 40-30-30. To dry ground beef, brown 95% lean ground sirloin, then soak up any grease with a paper towel. Crumble it up and spread it on a cooking sheet Put it in the oven at the lowest setting for several hours with the door open an inch to let the moisture out. It ends up looking like dog food, but tastes fine once you rehydrate it. You can also buy freeze-dried chicken to increase the protein content of prepared backpacking meals. I might try Zone pasta with dried spaghetti sauce on my next trip. To dry spaghetti sauce, pour a jar of sauce on a cookie sheet and cook it like I described above. It ends up looking like fruit rollups. When you put it in hot water it turns into sauce again. A company called Just Tomatoes sells various dried vegetables. They are available at Whole Foods. Does anyone have any other ideas? Rich |
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Cranberrycat  Posts:5313
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| 03/18/2009 9:40 PM |
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| I think you just shared a wealth of information, thanks! |
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robert  Posts:25
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| 04/01/2009 9:44 PM |
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dont know if you have gone yet but heres my opinion i spent 6 months backpacking round new zealand,this included mountain biking,snowboarding and many more adrenalin activities,i also stopped in my tent,youth hostels and back country huts. when i was out hiking sometimes for 6 days at a time i found it easy with the fat and protein,the carbs i would throw a load of fruit and veg in the top of my pack,i didnt worry to much about the weight as it drops gradually and you dont really have much waste.i have carried peppers,tomatoes,cucumber,lots of smaller salad stuff as well a variety of beans and some veg and quite a bit of fruit. needless to say when i was in the hostels for a few days you can really go wild with your shopping. hope this kinda helps p.s where are you going? regards rob |
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Dr. Barry Sears is a leading authority on the dietary control of hormonal response. A former research scientist at the Boston University School of Medicine and the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, Dr. Sears has dedicated his research efforts over the past 30 years to the study of lipids. He holds 13 U.S. Patents in the areas of intravenous drug delivery systems and hormonal regulation for the treatment of cardiovascular disease.
A turning point in his research occurred in 1982. That year, the Nobel Prize in Medicine was awarded for discoveries of the role that specialized hormones, known as eicosanoids, play in the development of cardiovascular disease, diabetes, auto-immune diseases, and cancer. Since eicosanoids are only generated from dietary fat, Dr. Sears reasoned that one could apply intravenous drug delivery principles to nutrition in order to control these exceptionally powerful hormonal responses with laser-like precision. In essence, his approach treats food as if it were a drug.
This area of his research led to various patents in the area of hormonal control by essentially using food as an oral drug delivery system to modulate eicosanoids especially for cardiovascular, diabetic, and neurological patients.
The impact of Dr. Sears’ revolutionary work in the dietary control of hormonal response began with the publication of his landmark book, The Zone. Since its publication in June 1995, The Zone has sold more than 2,000,000 hardcover copies, and became a #1 best seller on the New York Times book list. In addition, The Zone has been translated into 22 languages indicating a worldwide response to Dr. Sears’ research. His second book, Mastering the Zone, published in 1997, also became a New York Times bestseller with hardcover sales in excess of 500,000 copies to date. His third book, Zone Perfect Meals in Minutes, published in 1997, quickly became one of the best-selling cookbooks of 1997 and an another New York Times bestseller. The Anti-Aging Zone was published in 1999 and provides the molecular insights into how the Zone Diet can reverse the aging process. The Omega Rx Zone, published in 2002, explores the molecular foundation of chronic disease and how high-dose fish oil can dramatically reverse it. His latest book The Anti-Inflammation Zone discusses how to combat silent inflammation in order to reduce the risk of cancer, heart disease, diabetes, dementia, and many other inflammatory conditions—and how to reverse these conditions if they are already present. To date more than 5 million hardcover copies of his Zone books have been sold in the United States.
His research has elevated food from more than simply a source of calories to being recognized as an exceptionally powerful drug. Because of his revolutionary research, Dr. Sears has been a frequent guest on many national programs such as 20/20, Today, Good Morning America, CBS Morning News, CNN, and MSNBC.
Dr. Sears continues his ongoing research as President of Zone Labs, a biotechnology company in Danvers, MA as well as the President of the non-profit Inflammation Research Foundation in Marblehead, MA. In addition to continuing research on the hormonal effects of food, Dr. Sears has expanded his research in developing innovative dietary approaches to treating cancer and neurological conditions, as well as his on-going work in treating cardiovascular diease and type 2 diabetes.
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I have been taking the Fish Oil for over 3 years now. I am 44 playing hockey and working out. The Fish oil helps with the pain that I get from playing hockey. It greatly enhances my performance on the ice and while working out. I have noticed a big difference in my energy, attentiveness and memory. If I miss a day for whatever reason, I notice a huge difference and it feels like something is missing. Anyway that is my short little story and it comes from the heart.
– Carter B.
I am a nutritionist and Ph.D. doctor of health and nutrition. For Dr. Sears to figure out balancing fat, carbs and protein, is really beyond brilliant. It is a milestone in diet history. I go over people's diet/emotional journals. Mostly all the time, we discover that the fatigue, irritability, unstable emotions were due to the imbalance in their diet. Using the Zone to balance them out, helps control weight, roller coaster emotions and gives them energy. Dr. Sears is so right when he says food is medicine. He has figured out the most powerful drug combination going, called The Zone.
Best and healthy wishes,
– Elaine W., Ph.D., N.C., M.A.
I have a very exhausting job as a flight attendant. I read the "Omega Rx Zone" about 4 years ago and started taking the fish oil. I am 47 and have been flying for 22 years. I am very active, I run and lift weights. But combining lack of regular sleep, a physically demanding job, and irregular eating patterns this job takes a toll on the body. Since taking the fish oil, I have noticed that I do not get exhausted. I get tired, but not exhausted. I stopped taking it for a couple of months and then started taking another company's fish oil. I started getting exhausted again. I came back to Zone Labs and will continue with the fish oil for the rest of my life. I believe in the product and it makes a huge difference in my life. It makes a difference with my running as well. I also bring the bars and shakes with me on the road. It is almost impossible to eat the way I should at work. I haven't found the right secret. At least I have my Zone fish oil, bars, and shakes.
– Kathryn S.
I have been in the Zone, for about 1 month now. I wanted to share with you how wonderful I think this program is. I have been a personal trainer for almost 10 years and actively compete in numerous athletic activities. The Zone program has helped me to achieve a better awareness of my nutritional needs and the results I have seen are amazing! I have lost nearly 13 lbs since I have been in the Zone. I feel more mentally alert, more focused at work, have greater intensity during my training, have made significant strength gains, and just feel better over all. With that said, I would like to thank you for helping me in my quest for "super-health"!
Thank you!
– Rob Y.
I read 'The Zone' and as exactly as I could followed the advice for diet. I noted weight loss progress. Over six months, I lost 33 pounds. One year has passed since then. I have maintained the new weight, guided always by Zone concepts. The Zone is powerful - I have found it fantastic and I am very grateful to Dr Sears.
– Lyn S.
Before I stumbled across the Zone I was weighing close to two hundred pounds and I was depressed. I used to be a gymnast as a young man. I would think, "look at me now," when I looked in a mirror. The day I found 'The Zone' book, I was intrigued and as I read it the science made sense and so, I began to follow the "treatment". I began to lose weight and I was feeling way more energetic. I am forty two years old, I am very active and my weight is down to 162 lbs, 38 pounds lost on the Zone. I cycle, walk, jog, swim and I can now perform some of the more simple gymnastic skills I did twenty years ago...I literally feel like I have turned back the clock.
Thank you!
– Jack J.
I have been on the Zone diet for 7 years. I did not go on the diet to lose weight necessarily; but fairly quickly I lost 25 pounds, going from 190 to 165; from a 36-inch waist to a 32-inch waist. I primarily did the Zone to live healthier. My health is excellent now. I just turned 62 years old. My Zone is my eating lifestyle now; I seldom stray; and I do not miss anything. It is The Good Life.
– Curtis Y.
My wife's doctor told her to read "Enter the Zone" and to do the diet, so I told her I would do it with her. After only one week on the plan we went on a strenuous hike (the first of the year), and when we stopped at our favorite coffee shop on the way home I was able to get out of the car and stand upright and walk into the place without pain or stiffness. The Zone had eliminated all the inflammation that had always forced me to stumble all humped over into the coffee shop any time we skied or hiked all day.
Thank you, Doctor Sears.
– Larry C.
I used to have a lot of knee pain when I walked or ran. I have been taking Omega Rx for almost a year now, and rarely have any pain. I believe it is the anti-inflammation action of the oil. I feel smarter as well. Thanks for developing such a superior oil!
– Joe W.
Prior to following the Zone Diet, my body fat was around 15% and my weight around 153 pounds. No matter what I did, my weight and body fat did not change much. I regularly cycled 20-30 hours per week logging well over 400 miles. That had little impact on body fat or weight. Diet also seemed to have little impact on body fat or weight. Within a couple of months of following the zone diet, my weight dropped rather quickly to 142 pounds and body fat to about 8%. I still regularly cycle up to 20 hours per week (during the summer). I have also started strength training. I eat about 16 blocks per day. I take 3.6 grams of fish oil per day, along with Vitamin E, Alpha Lipoic Acid, CoQ10, and B & C vitamins. I also take GLA, which in my opinion, has significantly reduced fatigue and improved recovery times after exercise.
– Jeremy S.
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All polyphenols have antioxidant properties than can be measured by their Oxygen Radical Absorption Capacity (ORAC), but not all polyphenols have anti-inflammatory properties. The polyphenols in Dr. Sears’ Zone Polyphenol Plus have been carefully chosen to have both.
Polyphenols are the phytochemicals that not only give fruits and vegetables their color, but also help regulate inflammation. In addition, polyphenols also activate the key enzyme (AMP kinase) that helps restore cellular ATP levels. Polyphenols also help regulate the activation of inducible inflammatory proteins (such as COX-2 and inflammatory cytokines).
There are more than 4,000 known polyphenols, and the richest sources are fruits and vegetables. In general, the more color a fruit or vegetable has, the richer the polyphenol content.
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Zone Labs’ Ultra Refined Omega-3 Concentrates are three times fresher and contain less than 1/10th the mercury than what is allowed by the Norwegian Medicinal Standard and European Pharmacopoeia Standard
Zone Labs adheres to the International Fish Oil Standard (IFOS), an independent third party validated laboratory quality standard that is more rigid than any other global standard for purity.
- No company in the worlds runs more tests with IFOS than Zone Labs
- Zone Labs receives a 5 out of 5 star IFOS rating for every batch it tests
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Council for Responsible Nutrition |
European Pharmacopeia |
Norwegian Medicinal Standards |
| Peroxide |
< 3.75 meg/kg |
5 meg/kg |
10 meg/kg |
10 meg/kg |
| Totox Levels |
< 20 meg/kg |
26 meg/kg |
NA |
NA |
| Lead |
< 10 ppb |
10 ppb |
100 ppb |
100 ppb |
| Mercury |
< 10 ppb |
10 ppb |
100 ppb |
100 ppb |
| Dioxans and Furans |
< 1 ppt |
2 ppt |
2 ppt |
2 ppt |
| PCBs |
< 45 ppb |
90 ppb |
NA |
NA |
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"IFOS – THE TOP GLOBAL PURITY STANDARD FOR OMEGA-3 FROM FISH"
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Zone Labs products show no detectable lead or mercury when tested down to 10ppb, which is 10 times below the Norwegian Medicinal Standard and European Pharmacopoeia Standard limits.
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Zone Labs products are three times fresher than the minimum allowed by the Norwegian Medicinal Standard and European Pharmacopoeia Standards (based on average peroxide values).
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Zone Labs starts with only wild, small fish from pristine Chilean waters and ends with proprietary validation and testing processes to achieve an IFOS certified 5 star rating.
8-Step Manufacturing Process - Quality Assured
Testing to specification all raw materials, bulk products, packaging material and finished products – always using stringent internal standards and in-process testing.
- Extraction of fish oil
- Winterization – remove limited amounts of saturated fats
- Absorption – remove heavy metals
- Preliminary Molecular Distillation – refining “touch up” to reduce contaminants
- Oil conversion to ethyl esters
- Ethyl ester thermal fractionation – remove additional saturated fats
- True Molecular Distillation – final refining to remove pcb’s and long-chain monoenes
- Rigid Processes – proprietary validation, inspection and encapsulation methods. Independent lab verification of IFOS requirements and certified 5 star rating
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A recommended serving of Zone Labs Ultra-Refined Concentrates delivers 8 times more omega-3’s than a typical retail fish oil supplement.
Most fish oil supplements have 30% or less of the healthy omega-3s EPA and DHA, with the remaining 70% of the capsule containing unbeneficial, lesser refined fatty acids that contribute to their bad taste and gastric side effects.
Getting a clinically valid dose of omega-3’s is easy with Zone Labs’ Ultra-Refined Omega-3 Concentrates.
Typical Retail Dose = 300mg omega-3
Standard Zone Dose = 2400mg omega-3
A serving of canned tuna has 12 times less omega-3’s than
Zone Labs Ultra-Refined Omega-3 Concentrates
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Commonly consumed fish and shellfish in the United States
Mercury Source: Food and Drug Administration, FDA 1900-2004, “National Marine Fisheries Service Survey of Trace Elements in the Fishery Resource". Omega-3 Level Source: American Heart Association Website.
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< 0.01 |
2400 (standard 4 capsule serving |
| Salmon (fresh, frozen) |
0.014 |
1200 |
| Flounder or sole |
0.050 |
480 |
| Pollock |
0.041 |
450 |
| Crab |
0.060 |
400 |
| Scallops |
0.050 |
290 |
| Shrimp |
ND* |
290 |
| Catfish |
0.050 |
270 |
| Clams |
ND* |
250 |
| Cod |
0.095 |
210 |
| Canned Tuna (light) |
0.120 |
200 |
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