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Cranberrycat 
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| 02/07/2009 10:40 PM |
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Paul, definitely sounds like an emotional attachment to the food, if it is not a physical need (as in being OOZ).
We were having a discussion on another thread about emotional eating, and we are discussing the book "Shrink Yourself Thin". I don't have this book yet, but sue (not Sue) has been talking about it, and how it works through our emotional eating patterns, sabotage (and subconscious sabotage), and I think she even said that there were some tools/techniques mentioned in the book to work through these things.
There is also some work that I am familiar with, from Dr. Frank Smoot of the Permanent Solution. I have not purchased his program, but it also sounds like another program in which you are able to identify your emotional attachments to food, and works you through exercises to change your thinking with regards to food and dieting. |
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Karen
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| 02/07/2009 11:30 PM |
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Paul, I am so glad you have had a successful few days! YEA! That is such a great start!
My past is I was very fit up until my early 40s. I'm 5'3" and was 112 lbs at age 40. I worked out 6 days a week a minumum of one hour, but usually at least two hours. I did step aerobics, weight lifting, racquetball, skiing, biking, competitive badminton, swimming, hiking, etc. Always worked my body, and I was all muscle. Then my body started hurting, and the pain wouldn't go away. It got worse and worse and finally I did no exercising at all. I used to eat a lot, and I do mean a lot; but I didn't lower my eating when I stopped exercising - I didn't want to. I just LOVE food! All kinds! Well, the weight came on fast ... really fast. I ended up being 226 lbs. This happened even though in my early 30s I stopped eating beef, went very low sodium and started eating mostly non-fat.
After going from doctor to doctor to doctor, I was finally referred to a rheumatologist in 10/05. I have 3 types of arthritis, severe fibromyalgia and lupus. I'm now in a wheelchair, but hope to be out of it by the end of this year (it's just one of my goals!). Well, in 10/05 my doctor put me on a gluten-free diet. I lost 61 lbs over two years. Then the third year I added gluten-free bread, pasta, etc. I didn't lose any more weight and my health really deteriorated quickly.
On 12/1/08, my doctor put me on the Zone ... my first day was 12/4/08. I weighed 165 lbs on 12/1/08. As of 1/12/09, I've lost 8.5 lbs. YEA! My next weigh-in will be on 3/2/09. The Zone has really helped me. So that's my story.
Paul, this where I think you and I relate ... we both LOVE food! I mean genuinely love it. Even though we both know certain foods are bad for us, we still want to taste them because they are so good! I love to experiment with food. I've eaten a few times out of boredom, but that is generally not the case. I have always loved food ... people have always commented on how I TRULY enjoy my food.
Obviously, my eating got way out of control. I finally realized some of my eating became a bad habit ... especially in the evening watching TV. WOW! I wasn't necessarily hungry - I just wanted to taste something. That was one TOUGH habit to break. It's probably the biggest accomplish of my life! To be honest, I don't know if I just have it under control for now and will come back full force if I ever give in. Something like an alcoholic ... he/she can be sober for a year and then takes that first drink and well, the rest is history. I literally pray to God that he will take my love of food away from me. It hasn't happened yet. LOL! He has just given me the control I need. I guess that's what I really wanted!
Forgetting to eat for a whole day? NEVER!!! I can't imagine that! I love sweets, but TBH I used to always go for pizza, pasta, bread, etc., over the sweets. That was my big downfall.
Paul, please keep me posted on how you are doing. I'm sure we can conquer this together! |
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alexy
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| 02/08/2009 9:50 AM |
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Hi Karen,
The gross technique was used last Friday on The Doctors tv show, I think.
But, there was a running show several months that showed various techniques to "Think yourself thin" or something like that ... the lecturer is a thin man who's almost bald, striking looking, and wears attractive glasses that you notice. He wrote a book as well. Basically it's neurological programming I guess you could say. Reprogramming your brain to perceive things differently.
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Karen
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| 02/08/2009 10:16 AM |
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| Thank you, Alexy! I'm going to see if I can watch it on the web. I did several searches to see if I could see what it looks like, but I only found ones (5 lbs was the biggest amount that I could find) that didn't look real to me. It didn't give the "real" visual effect to me. I'm open to anything that will help! LOL! |
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Karen
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| 02/08/2009 11:14 AM |
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| Alexy, I finally found the show, but didn't get the option to see the show where it showed the 50 lbs of fat. When I did the search yesterday, I kept coming up with the soap opera ... uh, no thank you! I didn't even know this show existed. It looks like a very good informative show ... I've already set my dvr to record it tomorrow. Even if I didn't get to see the 50 lbs of fat, thanks for bringing this show to my attention! I appreciate it! Big smile! |
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alexy
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| 02/08/2009 5:15 PM |
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You're welcome ... I watch it regularly, but, it's not a zoned show, they don't know aobut the zone diet ... but it's still enjoyable ... and informative ...
if I ever see the man's book again, I'll post the actual name of his show ... it ran for a while and then I never saw it again ... but he did write a book ...
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paul
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| 02/09/2009 5:00 PM |
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Wow Karen that is quite a battle you have to fight.
I hope things continue to go well for you and you make your goal of getting out of the wheel chair.
Must have been very tough to have been as active as you were and have to deal with that.
I hope the Zone helps you over come the Lupus. That can be very hard, but, I can see your doing all the right things.
I have been sticking to it pretty well. The real test is my trip to CA.
I go to CA every 2 weeks for business and I have at times really gone out of control. Pick up Chinese food to go and then run to the grocery and get a pint of ice cream to go with it.
I always get the Chinese, but, need to go with a small serving instead of the large one. I work in my office sometimes till 1:00 am and then between boredom and feeling like I deserve to reward myself that is where I really get in trouble. I used to drive it and that was worse. I end up not doing anything but sitting for 3 days and a 12+ hour drive is a great temptation to eat out of boredom.
Ever noticed that there are not to many in shape truckers. I certainly know why.
Anyhow, hope your week is going well.
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Karen
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| 02/09/2009 5:08 PM |
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| Alexy, I don't know if you saw my post on another thread yesterday or not, but I finally saw all the fat you were talking about. I watched a show yesterday that showed a woman having 34.5 lbs of belly overhang fat removed surgically. OMG! The fat was GROSS! Will try to remember that in the future when I'm thinking of letting my guard down! |
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Karen
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| 02/09/2009 6:11 PM |
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Oh my goodness, Paul ... you have an incredible challenge! When is your next trip to CA? That's good that you will do the small portion of Chinese ... EVERY bit helps. Now you didn't say anything about skipping that pint of ice cream! LOL! JK! I sure hear you loud and clear regarding boredom and feeling like you deserve a reward. Both of those are what I call a big "setup for disaster" in regards to controlling food intake. It's just sooo HARD to work through them!
I think CC mentioned it that in another thread we have been talking about Shrink Yourself ... it's about emotional eating. My stand all along was that my problem is that I just LOVE food, and I don't really think I sabatoge myself through emotional eating. But, out of curiosity, I did visit their website. I answered a few questions and decided it really didn't "fit" me because on a couple questions I either had to select one answer and none of them pertained to me, or I had to pick two answers and only one pertained to me. However, I did request they send me four articles to further explore if there was anything there. I was shocked at how the last two hit a home run with me! I DO have an emotional eating problem. WOW! It was a real eye-opener. Before I was just able to control my physical appearance through exercise. One of them made me immediately think of you ... I think it was in the third or fourth article. If you are interested in reading these articles, I'd be happy to send them to you ... just provide me with your e-mail address. I'm now trying to order the book through my library to dig a little deeper into why I'm sabatoging myself.
So glad to hear that you are sticking to the Zone pretty well. Let's hope we all have a GREAT week. We "deserve" it! LOL! |
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paul
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| 02/13/2009 5:36 PM |
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So far doing pretty good, but, not perfect. The trips are hard. It seems that even if I stay on the zone perfect I will still gain a few pounds on a 2 day trip. These trips are completely sedentary and that is what I think causes it.
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Cranberrycat
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| 02/13/2009 7:58 PM |
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Hey, look! Your picture is back!
Yes, trips are probably hard. It is all of that restaurant eating, too. (and I think that your combination is probably not helping! --altering your insulin levels)
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Cranberrycat
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Karen
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| 02/13/2009 10:43 PM |
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Nice picture, Paul! So glad to hear from you again. Were you out of town this week? I wasn't sure when your next trip was.
Glad you are doing pretty good. I have no doubt the weight gain is just from sitting all day long, but especially eating restaurant food. There are so many hidden calories in restaurant food and the portion sizes are double or triple the size of a "normal" meal. Is there anyway of staying at a hotel with a kitchenette? I don't know your company's policy on that.
Is it easier to get back on track once you are home or are the evenings still difficult?
I've really been struggling the past few days. I really thought 2009 was going to be my year, but so far it has just presented one challenge after another. I just got hit with two more this week ... this makes four in the past five weeks! Unfortunately, three of my challenges are just not going to go away ... no quick fix. Right now I just don't feel like dealing with what I eat or don't eat, or how much I eat or don't eat. I better snap out of it soon! Eating (or sometimes lack of) is not going to make my problems go away. I have to keep telling myself that ... sometimes it takes a while to get through my thick skull and to my brain! LOL!
I hope you have a nice Valentine's Day with your wife and family! Keep me updated on how you are doing! |
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Linda
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| 02/14/2009 6:03 AM |
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Hi Paul - it sounds like many of us struggle with the night eating.
Have you tried journaling your food for the day? This really helped me. I use my laptop which is in my kitchen, and I write everything I eat, and either the blocks or calories. As in..
B - egg white omelet, apple, almonds - 3 blocks
S - 1/2 zone bar
etc. etc.... when evening comes, I see how well I have done during the day, and it keeps me from going crazy and throwing it all down the tubes with a binge. If I am hungry, I will compromise with myself - and say, "Instead of blowing it by eating an ice cream sundae which is 500+ calories, I'll have a pudding which is 100 calories."
This has really helped me. It was advised to me by my personal trainer. You also start to make HEALTHIER "cheat" choices. If you are like me and crave sweets, yes - I do "need" M & M's sometimes - but not a whole bag. Maybe 10 of them and then I do something ELSE - leave the kitchen, take a walk, read a book. It is definitely a mind game for me also.
Regardless of whether you are on the Zone or not, gaining and losing weight is about how many calories you put into your body. Obviously the Zone's method is ideal, but if you are going to cheat, do it in moderation and realize what that choice means in comparison to your whole day. Hope that helps and good luck! |
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Cranberrycat
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| 02/14/2009 9:48 AM |
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| Yes, one can certainly gain weight by eating too many calories. But, the "magical" part of the Zone is that we are controlling insulin levels, and allowing our bodies to burn fat for energy, which is a bit more than just losing weight by calorie reduction. |
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Cranberrycat
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| 02/14/2009 9:53 AM |
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Karen, I am so sorry that you are going through this!
Life is full of challenges, and sometimes they all hit us at once!
And, because sometimes life just "happens", this is an ideal time to work on your "contingency plan". When you don't have the time or energy to whip up some good zone meals, then you need a back-up plan. How about some soup or chili? You can cook it up and then freeze up single portion sizes, then it is there for you when you don't feel like cooking.
Plus, you remember how good you feel when you are in the Zone. You have made such wonderful progress! Just try to focus on that, try not to let the challenges get in the way of taking care of your health.
Hang in there, we are all here for you! |
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Cranberrycat
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paul
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| 02/14/2009 12:24 PM |
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Karen, hang in there. I think I have it easy compared to you and it seems you have done a phenomenal job so far. I want to hear about your progress also. You have really been strong.
We all know its a fight and its a fight that will never end. Last night I completely blew it. I had felt fatigued all day (sick or what not sure) and then we had basketball last night. Its a rural area and every friday night the adults from the area, some come from 30+ miles away get together with the younger kids and play basketball. Me and my 11 yr old had a good time, but, got home hungry. Started out real good with a salad, 3 bean salad, some soup, and pieces of fish and should have stopped there.
Found some Chocolate frosting in the pantry, peanut butter, a leftover pancake from the kids breakfast :blush: and it was a party.
Other than that was pretty good all day eating my snacks, balanced meals. Back on track this morning. It is always the evening that gets me in trouble.
Linda, I know that is great advice. Keep a ledger of what I eat each day. 2 things. I dont really want to do it and it is kind of embarrassing to do it as well (my kids will laugh at me :laugh<img src='http://www.zonediet.com/desktopmodules/ntforums/images/emoticons/smile.gif' height='20' width='20' border='0' title='Smile' align='absmiddle'>.
That being said, I may end up doing it. I feel like I got it half way whipped and do not want to go backwards (like i am in the 5th round of a 15 round fight and still kind of winning). I know it is a good idea linda. I already keep a morning ledger of my weight. I know some folks think its a bad idea, but, for me it helps me stay focused on my weight in the morning.
Cranberry, I keep working at it, and this site is a help. I am not going at it totally alone. Hopefully, wont have to post about any more evening mishaps.
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Cranberrycat
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| 02/14/2009 3:39 PM |
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Paul,
Hey, I think that the food diary or journal is a great idea! First, if you are afraid of being embarrassed, then you will have to think twice before eating it. Because, when you commit to the journal, you HAVE to write everything down, being totally honest with yourself.
I am glad that you feel good in coming to this site. I do, too! I am not a perfect zone angel, either! I was looking for something easy for lunch today, and I was going to settle on a sandwich (BAD) because it was easy and I had a few slices of Ezekiel bread in the fridge. Well, took out the slices, and found that the last 2 slices were moldy! Ha Ha! Ended up making a Zone-favorable meal, instead. So, I guess the moldy bread saved my butt! |
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Linda
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| 02/14/2009 5:29 PM |
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I hear ya' Paul. But get journaling! The frosting, PB and pancake were probably 400 calories IF you ate a serving of each! If you had to write that down (and you have to, if you commit to journaling, and if you really want to change)...you may not have eaten it......or you may have said, "STOP! How about a teaspoon of PB and 1/2 of the pancake." See what I mean? You start making SMALL changes.
When I started journaling, I did it for my personal trainer. I was working out like mad but not losing weight. She asked me to journal my food for 3-4 days. This was before I was "Zoning." She noticed that I often ate peanut butter a few times per day. A TBSP or 2 on toast in the morning. Celery and PB snack in afternoon. She quickly pointed out the caloris in PB. 180 in a serving, and recommended I make a small change - like a thin coating on toast, and to have an apple and string cheese for a snack. WOW - shaves 200 calories off my day, fulfills a "fruit" for the day and a "dairy" too. She noticed that the little bit of protein I was getting from the PB (6 g) wasn't worth the calories and fat.
She also noticed I was eating M & M's - a whole bag, and on the same day I also had bread with dinner. She said, "how about you have 1/2 a bag of M & M's, and no bread with dinner as a trade-off?"
It's like a little negotiation with yourself, but you can't do it if you can't see it or acknowledge it. Make sense?
It also gave me a sense of CONTROL. It wasn't a "diet"...it was everything in moderation. Where in the past I would open up the pantry and just start munching, I now added "thought" to the process, LOL!<img src='http://www.zonediet.com/desktopmodules/ntforums/images/emoticons/crazy.gif' height='20' width='20' border='0' title='Crazy' align='absmiddle'>
Now on the Zone, I journal and think, "I know I am craving M & M's, but it's almost my evening snack time....so I'll have cottage cheese and an apple and nuts, or heck - I'll have a few M & M's as my carb." It's better than blowing it on the "party" in the cabinet.
I hope that helps you - it's hard to break these habits - I do know!! GOOD LUCK!<img src='http://www.zonediet.com/desktopmodules/ntforums/images/emoticons/smile.gif' height='20' width='20' border='0' title='Smile' align='absmiddle'> |
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Linda
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| 02/14/2009 5:30 PM |
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| and these d*** smiley thingies do NOT work on this site - arrrgh! |
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janet 
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| 02/14/2009 7:27 PM |
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This thread is really interesting and educational! thanks everone!
I find that, like Linda, if I am tempted to cheat ...I realize that its almost time for a zone snack!!! sometmes my carb is not so favorable, so sue me! It keeps me on track! |
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