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09/12/2009 12:38 PM
You're welcome Bernie! Enjoy you weekend!

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09/16/2009 9:18 AM
Bernie...so glad you keep checking in...we miss you during the week! I would love to try the nopales...I'm going to pay more attention at the grocery store and organic store...you never know I might just find it there! Nice to know I have a Mexican "contact" just in case I can't find them here!!!
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09/27/2009 2:45 PM
Hello!!
I'm back... and since Mery is not here... I will kid-nap (hide-jack ??) this thread for a moment.....

Have you heard abou --- Amaranth--- it is another seed from ancient aztecs.... I love it... I use it to add some in yogurt and also add some to my oatmeal cookies... (not very zone friendly... but eat them once a month.. just a few).

happy to be here !!! best regards and keep in touch...

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09/27/2009 11:40 PM
Heyyyy Bernie!

I'VE tried the amaranth, have it in the cupboard, we irregularly add it into something... Using more quinoa tho. Just put some quinoa sprouts on their way...

Haven't been checking here for a while but now I re-read the Omega Rx Zone and my bf is also trying the ZOne, just agreed on it yesterday. I'll also try to fix my diet to fit it even more so I really appreciate all the advice and hints I can get! :-) All over this site I mean.

Exciting times... And I've promised myself that as soon as this month is over (soon!!) I get to begin thinking about X-mas <3 :-D Dunno if you're fans but I love it! Not a decorator by soul but a nostalgic.

Wish you are all good? Trying to come up with a Zone breakfast to bring to work O_O Already had my "pre"breakfast.

Have great day :-)

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09/28/2009 8:04 AM
Hi Meri & Bernie!

Glad you both 'checked in'...I miss your posts when you are gone ;-)

Meri, we'll give you any help you need as you transition more to the Zone. I LOVE it! I feel soooo good when I'm in the Zone.

We start to think about Christmas in October too! Having a large family it helps to start shopping early both for time and the wallet! LOL! And we are big decorators too....we like tradition when it comes to Xmas

About your portable Zone breakfast....you'd probably need 2 blocks because of your pre-workout snack? I like cottage cheese mixed with diced fruit and either nuts or a nut butter. My new 'fave' is steel cut oatmeal mixed with chocolate protein powder and a nut butter mixed in....its good with either applesauce or diced berries/fruit too. That combo keeps in Zoning for 5+ hours. These would work great if you have a thermos to take with you.

Take care!
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10/01/2009 12:11 AM
Thanks Jana! I've been separated from cottage cheese for awhile now and maybe it's time to bring it back :-D But I'm wondering whether I should consider my way to work by bike (7km) as a workout and should eat before it or after? Does it matter? Now I've been eating this roughly 1block meal before (a greenish smoothie) and then about 2 blocks (can of mackerel and an apple, current favourite!) at work. The smoothie just makes me fell a bit sick in the last hill I'm biking... burp ;-) So dunno what I should do.

Also I forgot to tell you: I started ballet lessons!! Been on two and LOVING IT! :-D Never danced ballet before but I feel so beautiful and light and graceful... Probably I also look like that ;-) It's just wonderful. I've been cutting down the "endurance" sports a bit so my runs are way shorter now, maybe 15 minutes, but fast. And crossfit stays of course, I'm starting as a coach at my crossfit gym (not the head coach but like once a week or twice) which is nice.

Regarding omega 3 fatty acids and my work in the hospital: I read the omega rx zone book again and I'm wondering about the cases about Alzheimer's and neurological diseases... I talked to the doctor on our ward yesterday and the head doctor, just preliminary, and they were sort of interested in the subject (like giving the big doses) but I would need to find some original research about the issue to show them. The book's not enough... Any suggestions or simultaneous experiences trying to discuss with the "official" healthcare? Would highly appreciate any help. :-) Not very easy to get started with it since for starters it's so expensive. But I'm going to tell some of the patients family members to read the book and then do something if they want to, like for the ones with Alzheimers (like this very young man 56 years old).

Aaaaaaanyway getting back to you soon! :-)

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10/01/2009 12:56 PM
Meri, the ballet classes sound like a great idea! Staying active and learning something new, good for you!! And starting as a coach at crossfit...I've always thought that those people had the best jobs...you're working and working out at the same time! Killing to birds with one stone ;-) Good luck with it, Meri!

I would say you should count your 7km bike commute as a workout and have a snack before hand. If the whole one block is too much (you mentioned feeling sick at the end) you could just have 1/2 block and then have a 2.5 block breakfast when you get to work. That's what I always did before my morning runs (.5 snack and 2.5 meal). BUT I haven't been exercising much lately...I got out of routine when I was letting my glute heal, then we had holidays, and I had a busy time with work, then I had a wisdom tooth pulled and fighting a head cold....but I've promised myself that the first morning I wake up now that I am not sniffling I am going to start back at it. I haven't felt my glute for weeks now so it should be good and healed by now. I really miss working out.

I'm sorry but I can't help you out with the Alzheimer's info...but I'll bet Sue has some links or comments for you! She has such a wealth of information...and seems so happy to share it with all of us.

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10/01/2009 2:07 PM
Ohhhh thank you Jana it feels so good to get a swift reply! :-) Like being close to you lads. Or ladies? ;-D

And as you see, I'm right back at where I started this thread :-D But I think I'm gonna go with the half block breakfast since it worked for my running as well. Although today I actually went for a short, fast run, THEN ate the ruf 3 block breakfast and commuted (was a shorter distance first to a meeting, only at 10am I commuted to my own workplace). DOing that was fine as well but the normal commute is harder so it can't be done after three blocks...

Have to count how much would be a green smoothie half block.. ui hard. I guess a little green things don't count really (some kale/spinach), then a little bit of lingonberries, a couple strawberries, fish oil and some other vitamins and a dash of protein powder. I think 7g protein powder is one block? I also currently use a fibre "addition" but it's a minor amount so not taking it into account. Hmmm. Am I doing something seriously wrong here? This smoothie first at 6.15, off to work at 6.45, 2.5block at 8/8.30 and lunch at 12.... Phew this is hard work just THINKING about getting in the zone! :-D

Also there are so many situations that it's a bit challenging, like just today, I just came back from this "girl's house" where I volunteer once a fortnight and it's quite common to cook together there and it just doesn't go not tasting the foods... Sets a bad example especailly as there are several girls with eating disorders. BUt, some exceptions are allowed and you're only as good as your last meal, is that right? :-D

To tell the truth, I'm quite positive that coffee takes me off zone but I'm so not willing to give it up... I will have no vices left! :-O

hehehehe. Take care Jana and everybody else as well, a bit of a long story, AGAIN. :-)

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Sue K User is Online
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10/01/2009 2:32 PM
A tip Meri, you need at least 1 balanced block before running first thing in the am. It's important to have the appropriate dietary support before and after exercise in order to stay in the Zone. The elevated cortisol levels from exercise can take you right out of the Zone otherwise.

sue

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10/02/2009 12:21 AM
My post disappeared :-O Bugger :-( Don't have the time to write it again... THANKS SUE anyway! I'll get back to you.

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01/09/2010 1:07 PM
It's been a LOOOONG time but if you're still around, I hope you're all doing good! I survived last year living which is a minor miracle (considering the bike accident and later on the year there was a serious explosion in my office: luckily NOBODY was in the room at that time, would've ended up to the morgue) and doing very very well. Still not on the Zone but probably very close, doing the paleolithic diet even more carefully than before. I've cut down the dairy almost totally and the carbs are still just veggies and maybe one fruit per day, berries of course... And as you know, I'm no fanatic so if I need to, I can have a bite of anything :-)

Anyway just wanted to come and check how are you, leave a word if you're out there! And oh yes, I switched into writing in English into my cooking blog so have a look if you want to, and comment so I'LL KNOW YOU WERE THERE :-D ---> monkeyfood.net

Have the best year 2010 and may all of you be healthy and well <3

Ps. Currently reading Taubes's Good calories, bad calories, super interesting :-P

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Sue K User is Online
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01/09/2010 1:15 PM
Happy New Year Meri!

The explosion at work...scary!

Glad you popped in here. I was just thinking about you the other day!

sue

Lost 100 lbs 15 yrs ago, off BP meds, thanks to the Zone diet and Zone fish oil. ZoneFast is the best!


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01/09/2010 1:41 PM
Meri, it is great to hear from you! I was also thinking of you, and I was thinking that I had to find this thread again! I haven't heard from Jana for a while, either.

Wow, I knew about your bike accident, but not the explosion! Phew! Glad you wene not in that room.

Let us know what you think of that book. Someone mentioned it on another thread, but I haven't seen much discussion about it, and I am curious.

Cranberrycat

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01/10/2010 11:56 AM
Thanks Sue and wishing you the same! <3 I'm quite often thinking about you guys but the time's just too limited for enough surfing... And if I don't have the time to participate I usually just skip the surfing because I find the discussion the best part of web communities :-) Any brilliant new cooking ideas?

CC, glad you're okay as well! Hope Jana will appear... And Bernie! HALLOOO?! ;-D The book is hugely interesting and it does prove the misunderstandings of almost all the dieting research during last 100 years. I LOVE the fact that it brings up the common "belief": people are fat, BECAUSE they overeat and do too little exercise. NO no! It's the opposite: because of something (haven't got so far yet or maybe it's even unknown still what) CAUSES body to get BIGGER, people eat more and exercise less to survive. Like when you have a growth spurt as a teenager or being pregnant: you don't eat and then grow, but the OTHER WAY AROUND. Changes the attitudes towards heavier people a lot.

Also a good example regarding attitudes. When a person watches the telly all day lying on a sofa, they are called couch potatoes for being so inactive and still. When a person sits all day reading books, no such assumption is made. Oh my, new ideas and shaking attitudes is so interesting and important!

Anyway, I'm gonna come back to tell more about the book if you're interested... Some of the points are as a Finnish blogger reviewed them (urbaanioranki.blogspot.com):

1. Fat doesn't cause fattiness, heart problems, or other chronic lifestyle diseases.
2. The problem is the carbohydrate in a diet that causes changes insulin levels and therefore effect on the hormonal homeostasis of the body. The more refined the carbs are, the more of an impact they have on health, weight etc.
3. Sugar, especially sucrose and glucose-fructose-syrap, is specially evil since it elevates insulin levels and the same time it overloads the liver with carbs.
4. Refined carbs, starch and sugars are the dietary factor in heart disease and diabetes. They also are the most probable dietary factor causing cancer, Alzheimer and other lifestyle diseases.
5. Fatness is a failure in fat storaging in body. It's not caused by overeating and not being active.
6. Eating too many calories doesn't cause fattiness the more that eating causes a child to grow. If you use more evergy that you're eating you're not losing weight but starving.
7. Fattiness and gaining weight are caused by fat tissue's hormonal adjustment and fat metabolism's imbalance.
8. Insulin is the main factor in storaging fat. When insulin level is up, we storage fat and when the level lowers fat is being used as a fuel.
9. Exelerating insulin release carbs make us gain weight and we end up fat. The less we eat carbs, the less we put on weight.
10. While adding fat tissue in us carbs also create more hunger.

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Phew! Hard work translating and not very perfect, hope you get the idea! I know it's a bit controversy regarding Sears's thinking but this knowledge has been "extracted" from the last 100 years of banting research so it's not all bs :-) I find it highly interesting! And for the most parts it's prbably even not contradicting Sears but supporting his ideas really? A bit different perspective.

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01/10/2010 12:52 PM
Meri, sounds basically like what Dr. Sears has been saying for years. :-)

Yes, I've definitely got some brilliant new cooking ideas, but they're not mine. It's the SuperZone. I've been eating SuperZoned and love it!

sue

Lost 100 lbs 15 yrs ago, off BP meds, thanks to the Zone diet and Zone fish oil. ZoneFast is the best!


To view my before/after pics and meal photos click on this picture

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01/10/2010 5:49 PM
I agree with Sue, it sounds a LOT like what Sears is saying. Very supportive. I enjoy reading books by different authors, they all offer a bit of a different perspective on it. I think the truth does lie somewhere in between everyone's theory.

Think I will have to get that one!

Cranberrycat

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01/11/2010 9:32 AM
Well very nice to hear! I'm not as familiar as your guys what Sears is saying so it's brilliant to get back up, it's fantastic book. And it's so so so sad how the misinterpretations have been done... Makes me angry. Especially on behalf of everybody who had issues with overweight. All misery that could've been avoided... Sigh.

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01/11/2010 10:10 AM
Yes, I think we are on the right track now as far as diet theories go, but who knows what we will come up with in the next 100 years? LOL!

Misinterpretations happen all the time, and all we really have to rely on is the past, to tell us if we were right or wrong. Kind of hard to blame the predecessors of the diet revolution, when they probably didn't have the resources to research this out, and they didn't have results of studies available to them.


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01/18/2010 8:36 AM
Hi everyone! So nice to have you back Meri!! I've had a very hectic last month or so and FINALLY have a little time to check in here. I haven't been on the board but I have been Zoning...love the Zone! :-)

Sorry to hear about your office explosion Meri...so glad everyone was alright. You had quite an event filled year in 2009 didn't you?

Thanks for posting your recipe website address...I'm looking forward to checking it out. I haven't had much time lately for dabbling with new recipes but I do have 2 web address that I love to get recipes from that you may enjoy www.adoctorskitchen.com and www.cfscceat.blogspot.com/ This second website focuses on paleo-zone recipes so you will probably particularly enjoy it.
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01/18/2010 9:17 AM
Hi, Jana! Good to see you around!

Cranberrycat

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