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Belinda 
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| 07/15/2005 10:24 PM |
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| Is there a particular reason why Beets seem to show up in white in posts around here?
Also, why is it not part of the favorable carbs? I looked up its glycemic index and it's one of those similar to watermelon, that while having a high GI, their GL is still low.
I pulled other favorable GI/GL's to compare:
Watermelon 72, 4
Apples 38, 6
Chickpeas 28, 8
Kidney beans 28, 7
Beets 64, 5 |
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Belinda
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| 07/18/2005 8:38 PM |
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| [quote:1126d35a4a="Babs"]Is there a particular reason why Beets seem to show up in white in posts around here?
Also, why is it not part of the favorable carbs? I looked up its glycemic index and it's one of those similar to watermelon, that while having a high GI, their GL is still low.
I pulled other favorable GI/GL's to compare:
Watermelon 72, 4
Apples 38, 6
Chickpeas 28, 8
Kidney beans 28, 7
Beets 64, 5[/quote:1126d35a4a]
So if no one volunteers an answer, where can we go to get an answer? How do we address questions to Dr. Sears himself? |
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Sue
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| 07/18/2005 10:52 PM |
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| [quote:abdaf8ca12="Babs"][quote:abdaf8ca12="Babs"]Is there a particular reason why Beets seem to show up in white in posts around here?
Also, why is it not part of the favorable carbs? I looked up its glycemic index and it's one of those similar to watermelon, that while having a high GI, their GL is still low.
I pulled other favorable GI/GL's to compare:
Watermelon 72, 4
Apples 38, 6
Chickpeas 28, 8
Kidney beans 28, 7
Beets 64, 5[/quote:abdaf8ca12]
So if no one volunteers an answer, where can we go to get an answer? How do we address questions to Dr. Sears himself?[/quote:abdaf8ca12]
[color=darkred:abdaf8ca12]You can submit a question to the "Ask Dr Sears" portion of this site, or you can call Zone Labs and ask if they could get a reply for you from Barry Sears.[/color:abdaf8ca12] |
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Belinda
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| 07/19/2005 1:18 AM |
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| [quote:55043498d3="Slknorr"][color=darkred:55043498d3]You can submit a question to the "Ask Dr Sears" portion of this site, or you can call Zone Labs and ask if they could get a reply for you from Barry Sears.[/color:55043498d3][/quote:55043498d3]
Thanks Sue :) |
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amd
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| 09/30/2005 1:28 AM |
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| Belinda, please let me know if you find an answer to this question. I would like to know about the beets as well. I prepared a new recipe tonight that called for golden beets (they don't "bleed" like regular beets when sliced or chopped, but they are much harder to find). I thought it was quite tasty and haven't noticed any insulin-response problems after dinner (only 1.5 hours post dinner, though, right now). I'd probably make that recipe again if it works well.
Angela :D |
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Belinda
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| 09/30/2005 3:15 AM |
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| [quote:c475e84c7f="amd"]Belinda, please let me know if you find an answer to this question. I would like to know about the beets as well. I prepared a new recipe tonight that called for golden beets (they don't "bleed" like regular beets when sliced or chopped, but they are much harder to find). I thought it was quite tasty and haven't noticed any insulin-response problems after dinner (only 1.5 hours post dinner, though, right now). I'd probably make that recipe again if it works well. [/quote:c475e84c7f]
[color=darkblue:c475e84c7f] Hi Angela!
I posted the question on "Ask Dr. Sears" but never got an answer. So I'm going by what the Glycemix tables show...so I'm using beets. Check this out:
[list:c475e84c7f][i:c475e84c7f]Vitamins & Minerals: Beets are extremely rich in iron, potassium, niacin, copper, vitamin A & C. Folic acid, biotin, niacin, zinc, phosphorus, sodium, calcium, manganese, magnesium, and phosphorus are also present.
Benefits: Beets are excellent for the liver and spleen and also as a cleansing agent for maintaining whole body health. Beets are a blood-building herb that detoxifies blood by renewing it with its minerals and natural sugars. This root vegetable contains betaine, which stimulates the function of liver cells and protects the liver and bile ducts. Beets build red corpuscles by adding tone to blood. Reports on an animal study show that beetroot has a significant tumor-inhibiting effect.
Beets are an excellent source of phosphate of copper. This is necessary for the skin to stretch properly, along with the Vitamin A and Vitamin C they provide. Beets are also a good laxative for some people.
Beets improve assimilation of iron, function of intestinal tract and assists in the assimilation of a wide spectrum of nutrients. A mix of carrot, beet, and parsley juice is supportive for women during their menstrual cycle. Carrots and beets combined are excellent for the liver and spleen.[/quote][/i:c475e84c7f][/list:u:c475e84c7f]
Considering the issues I have, I'm not passing up beets. So hey, share your recipe! :) [/color:c475e84c7f] |
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adam_h
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| 09/30/2005 2:15 PM |
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| Beets are a root vegetable. Roots, because they store energy, are high in sugars. Hence, radishes, carrots, rutabegas, turnips, beets, and especially potatoes are unfavorable.
(Sugar beets rival sugar cane for granulated sugar production.)
Red beets are high in minerals and are a good food, but cook with them as you would with carrots. |
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Dennis
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| 09/30/2005 2:48 PM |
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| [quote:897396a647="adam_h"]... radishes, carrots, rutabegas, turnips, beets, and especially potatoes are unfavorable. [/quote:897396a647]
Uncooked carrots are now considered a favorable carb by Dr. Sears. |
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Belinda
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| 09/30/2005 5:40 PM |
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| [quote:99b4ddaf0f="gofish"][quote:99b4ddaf0f="adam_h"]... radishes, carrots, rutabegas, turnips, beets, and especially potatoes are unfavorable. [/quote:99b4ddaf0f]
Uncooked carrots are now considered a favorable carb by Dr. Sears.[/quote:99b4ddaf0f]
What I really wanted him to comment on is why some are OK and others not when the glycemic >load< is the same or lower. He considers all of the ones below as favorable, except beets.
.........................GI....GL
Watermelon......72....4
Apples..............38....6
Chickpeas........28....8
Kidney beans...28....7
Beets................64....5
Just for reference (or laughs!) check sugar:
.........................................GI........Svg.......C...GL
Table sugar (sucrose)..... 68.......2 tsp.....10.....7 |
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amd
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| 09/30/2005 5:44 PM |
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| Hi Belinda!
The recipe I used was from Cooking Light, and you can probably pull it straight from their website. I will post the link, but in case you can't follow it, just go to www.cookinglight.com and type "golden beets" in the search box. The recipe was "Ponzu Grilled Salmon with Golden Beets and Couscous." I realize couscous (and, sadly, beets!) is an unfavorable carb, but I did use zone proportions and it was YUMMY!
That was my first try at eating beets, and I enjoyed them.
Angela :lol:
http://food.cookinglight.com/cooking/recipefinder.dyn?action=displayRecipe&recipe_id=1065550 |
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Belinda
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| 09/30/2005 5:52 PM |
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| [quote:6767544315="adam_h"]Beets are a root vegetable. Roots, because they store energy, are high in sugars. Hence, radishes, carrots, rutabegas, turnips, beets, and especially potatoes are unfavorable.
(Sugar beets rival sugar cane for granulated sugar production.)[/quote:6767544315]
[color=darkblue:6767544315]Let's go back to Dr. Sears' statement* that your stomach does not know the difference between white rice and snicker bars. So it does not matter what beet is when you're talking glycemic index/load.[/color:6767544315]
[quote:6767544315]These difficulties have given rise to a more sophisticated understanding known as the glycemic load, which is far more important than the glycemic index in determining the insulin output of a meal. [/quote:6767544315]
[i]* Understanding Carbs - DrSears.com |
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Sue
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| 09/30/2005 7:01 PM |
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| [quote:e2b53b8d15="Babs"][quote:e2b53b8d15="gofish"][quote:e2b53b8d15="adam_h"]... radishes, carrots, rutabegas, turnips, beets, and especially potatoes are unfavorable. [/quote:e2b53b8d15]
Uncooked carrots are now considered a favorable carb by Dr. Sears.[/quote:e2b53b8d15]
What I really wanted him to comment on is why some are OK and others not when the glycemic >load< is the same or lower. He considers all of the ones below as favorable, except beets.
.........................GI....GL
Watermelon......72....4
Apples..............38....6
Chickpeas........28....8
Kidney beans...28....7
Beets................64....5
Just for reference (or laughs!) check sugar:
.........................................GI........Svg.......C...GL
Table sugar (sucrose)..... 68.......2 tsp.....10.....7[/quote:e2b53b8d15]
[color=darkred:e2b53b8d15]I'm posting this info just to add my 2 cents and give everyone some FYI reagrding watermelon! Unless there's a new determination on watermelon that I'm unaware of, it is not considered by Dr. Sears to be a favorable carb. You may have taked this info from an outdated Zone book. [/color:e2b53b8d15] |
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sue
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Dennis
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| 09/30/2005 8:52 PM |
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| [quote:1158f3d045="Babs"]
What I really wanted him to comment on is why some are OK and others not when the glycemic >load< is the same or lower. He considers all of the ones below as favorable, except beets.
.........................GI....GL
Watermelon......72....4
Apples..............38....6
Chickpeas........28....8
Kidney beans...28....7
Beets................64....5
Just for reference (or laughs!) check sugar:
.........................................GI........Svg.......C...GL
Table sugar (sucrose)..... 68.......2 tsp.....10.....7[/quote:1158f3d045]
Ok everyone, I will try to make this as clear as possible.
A definition from the web:
"The glycemic index is a ranking of carbohydrates based on their immediate effect on blood glucose (blood sugar) levels. It compares foods [color=darkred:1158f3d045]gram for gram of carbohydrate[/color:1158f3d045]. Carbohydrates that breakdown quickly during digestion have the highest glycemic indexes. The blood glucose response is fast and high. Carbohydrates that break down slowly, releasing glucose gradually into the blood stream, have low glycemic indexes."
The glycemic load is the GI times the serving size eaten.
Since a block of carb is standardized in the Zone, [color=darkred:1158f3d045]the GI and GL of one block of food are equal[/color:1158f3d045] (if we define it that way, because the numbers are all relative). However [color=darkred:1158f3d045]a 3 block meal has 3 times the GL of a one block meal[/color:1158f3d045].
For Zone purposes the [color=darkgreen:1158f3d045]GI of a food is the only number you need to look at.[/color:1158f3d045]
The GL of a zone meal goes up as the number of blocks in the meal go up (assuming the same food is eaten). That is why it is harder to stay in the Zone with fewer larger meals than many smaller meals.
So, if you are going to eat a high GI food, you need to eat a small amount of it at a time to keep the GL down.
For example, in a 3 block meal:
GL= 084 for 3 blocks beans
GL= 120 for 2 blocks beans and 1 block beets
GL= 156 for 1 block beans and 2 blocks beets
GL= 192 for 3 blocks beets
As you can see, it will be hard to stay in the Zone with a meal that has over twice the GL of a typical favorable carb.
These numbers are just for the carb portion of the meal. The beneficial effect of fiber is already taken into account in the GI of the food. However, a Zone meal also has some fat in it. The effect of fat is that it takes longer to digest the whole meal. This means that the fat will lower the GL of the meal, and this is one critical element of a Zone meal.
I summary:
Spread you blocks out evenly over the day (2 snacks and 3 meals MINIMUM)and eat favorable carbs if you want to get the most benefit from the Zone. |
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